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It is appalling. Where are you going to move to in order to escape this travesty? US? Hungary? China?
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He won’t. For all his complaining about the Canadian government and policy and how crappy Canada is, he’s been open about riding it out til he gets the pension. And that’s fine- but it’s useful context to qualify the depth of his convictions on the state of our country.
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Truer words rarely typed …
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Why not?
A persons 20s should include flexibility and a willingness to try new things and explore the world. By the time I was 27 I had already lived in 5 countries. In Canada I had lived in Windsor, London and Ottawa. I came from a middle class background, not lower not higher middle class, just middle class. A mother who went back to work par time when my brother and I were older, a father who after high school worked at the Windsor Salt Mine, CPR, moved out to Calgary for 9 months for work, hated it, moved back to Windsor, got work at Walker Metals and then at the old Plant 3 in Windsor Chrysler. He went to St Clair College after few years for night school to become an accountant and then moved over to the Admin Building on Pillette Rd as an accountant for Chrysler.
If I was 22-25yrs old with a decent undergrad, I’d move to Southeast Asia for work - Vietnam, Australia, New Zealand maybe Singapore, Malaysia. The Gulf States are always looking for talent in their businesses. Possibly look at Chile or Uruguay. Lastly, still lots of work in the US with a TN Visa, just move to New England if you don’t like Trump, closest area of the US that thinks/acts like Canada.
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Now (once it is passed) all the provinces have to do is better fund the correctional and court system.
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Precisely.
Topical to this: farther upthread I and others have mentioned that the conditions of provincial corrections are a constraint to holding more people in custody and are a factor in more people getting bail.
A judge has just stayed proceedings (stopped the prosecution) against three charged with murder due to “torturous state actions” at Ontario’s Maplehurst Correctional Complex. This arises out of events in December 2023 where inmates were collectively abused following an assault on a guard.
Conditions in provincial corrections are pretty dire, and this absolutely needs to be addressed ASAP if we want to see more ‘jail not bail’.
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Are there any reports of administrative, disciplinary, or legal action taken against the correctional officers involved?
Nothing heard but I haven’t really looked for it.
So once again, accused rights trump victim's rights. Two days sitting in your underpants plus zip ties on your wrists equals a get out of jail free card for murder (alleged). Not bad. I surely hope there was more to the guards' actions than just that. There had to have been a better solution by the judge.
There was a lot more. Did you read anything further about it?
I’m still waiting to read the judge’s written decision- and I’m sure there will be an appeal. But the main thrust of this is that the state’s conduct was so utterly egregious that the court had to disassociate itself from it. Judges do not use words like ‘torturous’ lightly. Presumably if that case was tossed, many others have been or will be.
Do I think this is an extreme response? Yes. Do I like it? No. Am I ok with it? Also no. Do I recognize and understand why the judge felt pushed to this point? Yes. Do I recognize that this is a HUGE “oh shit!” signal that should be recognized for what it is, highlighting a part of our criminal justice system that has been broken and failing for years and risks the rest of it? Yes I do.
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Where does the misconduct get addressed otherwise? Are you saying that accused (not convicted) individuals in custody can be abused without sanction? Are you saying that they should have defended themselves against their assailants?
