Liberal Minority Government 2025 - ???

[brihard]

Hearing that PP may have screwed up procedurally and given up his right as leader of the opposition to propose amendments to the budget ceding it to the Bloc now…

You’ve piqued my curiosity.

 

[HavokFour]

Hearing that PP may have screwed up procedurally and given up his right as leader of the opposition to propose amendments to the budget ceding it to the Bloc now…

The tea must flow.

 

[daftandbarmy]

Hearing that PP may have screwed up procedurally and given up his right as leader of the opposition to propose amendments to the budget ceding it to the Bloc now…

 

[daftandbarmy]

Wow...

https://twitter.com/x/status/1985459621486870960

 

[MilEME09]

Wow...

https://twitter.com/x/status/1985459621486870960

Almost as if working from home made people less efficient. Dont get me wrong I love working from home, but there needs to be accountability too regarding deliverables

 

[Halifax Tar]

Hearing that PP may have screwed up procedurally and given up his right as leader of the opposition to propose amendments to the budget ceding it to the Bloc now…

Can you provide a reference to this ? I cant find anything.

 

[brihard]

Can you provide a reference to this ? I cant find anything.

Nor I.

 

[Czech_pivo]

Nor I.

expected to be introduced later this morning after party leader Pierre Poilievreinexplicably failed to introduce an amendment at the close of his response to the budget yesterday afternoon.

“Traditionally the official Opposition leader has proposed the main budget amendment,” the Star notes.

“The Bloc Québécois seized on the unexpected opening to swiftly present notice of their own motion to amend the budget — which now becomes the main proposed change to the document — as Conservatives scrambled to fix the oversight.

 

[brihard]

expected to be introduced later this morning after party leader Pierre Poilievreinexplicably failed to introduce an amendment at the close of his response to the budget yesterday afternoon.

“Traditionally the official Opposition leader has proposed the main budget amendment,” the Star notes.

“The Bloc Québécois seized on the unexpected opening to swiftly present notice of their own motion to amend the budget — which now becomes the main proposed change to the document — as Conservatives scrambled to fix the oversight.

Whoops.

 

[Czech_pivo]

Whoops.

Doesn't help his upcoming performance evaluation with his bosses.

 

[Remius]

Can you provide a reference to this ? I cant find anything.

Heard it yesterday from David Cochrane.

Looks like a few people up thread have the goods on it.

He’s not having a good last few weeks…

 

[Halifax Tar]

He’s not having a good last few weeks…

Indeed.

 

[Lumber]

Heard it yesterday from David Cochrane.

Looks like a few people up thread have the goods on it.

He’s not having a good last few weeks…

By last few weeks do you mean the previous few weeks?

Or do you mean these are his final few weeks.

 

[Remius]

By last few weeks do you mean the previous few weeks?

Or do you mean these are his final few weeks.

The former but the latter might be foresight…

 

[Navy_Pete]

Wow...

https://twitter.com/x/status/1985459621486870960

I've never been able to understand how exactly someone assesses public service productivity.

Hours worked is easy, but there is no kind of equivalent of 'hours worked per widget produced', and things like getting contingencies in place for emergency preparedness, or all the extra work required to maintain obsolete stuff is inherently inefficient, but nothing to do with the workforce.

Travel approval is the obvious example; need to get trip approval at the DG/ADM level for the concept of the trip, then get the travel itinerary approved, and finally get actual travel approval in claimsX, which adds delays and frequently increases booking cost for flight tickets, and LOE around that costs more than the travel, but at the worker level means that something that used to take 15 minutes now can take days due to process increases. At the KPI level though, would be stupid to compare the LOE it takes now to LOE it used to take for a measure of productivity.

YMMV with WFH, but I think the problem children weren't doing shit working from the office either, so general management issue, and PS doesn't seem noticeably worse compared to large private firms that I worked in years ago. If you really want productivity giving management tools, training and mentoring to actually manage people, as well as sufficient resources to do things properly. We're way understaffed, so sure we're doing some stuff pretty inefficiently just because we don't have enough bandwidth to actually track and manage the workload effectively when you are just scrambling to whatever has the nearest deadline

Personally find it more productive to do a lot of WFH, and also easily take micro breaks (like this) before tackling things like detailed reviews that are extremely difficult to do in a open concept office and takes 2-3 times as long. Some things are better in person, so hybrid works well for a lot of office settings, but that's where giving managers discretion makes sense. If you want to issue top down directives either way that don't make sense at the team level can't really complain about productivity impacts to the individual workers

 

[lenaitch]

You'll be excited to hear Japan has increasingly relaxed certain immigration and foreign worker rules in recent years. They are, as a matter of fact, not falling off any cliffs.

They're just being very selective still, probably to avoid looking like Europe.

Here's some examples I found.

-expanded visa pathways for foreign workers in labour short sectors
-SSW program to cover more industries
-allowed some SSW workers to bring families (previously restricted)
-created paths for SSW workers to obtain indefinite residency
-increased the number of foreign residents to 3.4M
-relaxed eligibility for working holiday visas
-increased intake of students and technical trainees
-encouraged companies to recruit foreign workers more actively
-simplified renewal and application procedures for some visas
-offering support services to retain
immigrants (language and integration programs)

Even if legislatively allowed, I suspect cultural acceptance will lag behind. Either that or it will be like some Middle Eastern countries where immigration is essentially cheap labour.

I've never been able to understand how exactly someone assesses public service productivity.

Hours worked is easy, but there is no kind of equivalent of 'hours worked per widget produced', and things like getting contingencies in place for emergency preparedness, or all the extra work required to maintain obsolete stuff is inherently inefficient, but nothing to do with the workforce.

Travel approval is the obvious example; need to get trip approval at the DG/ADM level for the concept of the trip, then get the travel itinerary approved, and finally get actual travel approval in claimsX, which adds delays and frequently increases booking cost for flight tickets, and LOE around that costs more than the travel, but at the worker level means that something that used to take 15 minutes now can take days due to process increases. At the KPI level though, would be stupid to compare the LOE it takes now to LOE it used to take for a measure of productivity.

YMMV with WFH, but I think the problem children weren't doing shit working from the office either, so general management issue, and PS doesn't seem noticeably worse compared to large private firms that I worked in years ago. If you really want productivity giving management tools, training and mentoring to actually manage people, as well as sufficient resources to do things properly. We're way understaffed, so sure we're doing some stuff pretty inefficiently just because we don't have enough bandwidth to actually track and manage the workload effectively when you are just scrambling to whatever has the nearest deadline

Personally find it more productive to do a lot of WFH, and also easily take micro breaks (like this) before tackling things like detailed reviews that are extremely difficult to do in a open concept office and takes 2-3 times as long. Some things are better in person, so hybrid works well for a lot of office settings, but that's where giving managers discretion makes sense. If you want to issue top down directives either way that don't make sense at the team level can't really complain about productivity impacts to the individual workers

The multiple levels of travel approval in your example is the type of thing that outsiders site as inefficient bureaucracy. Even at the provincial level, I travelled to the UK and US. The boss said 'go' so that's local approval. I had to get DM approval because it was out of country. After that, it was the normal approval of expenses when I got back.

 

[Navy_Pete]

The multiple levels of travel approval in your example is the type of thing that outsiders site as inefficient bureaucracy. Even at the provincial level, I travelled to the UK and US. The boss said 'go' so that's local approval. I had to get DM approval because it was out of country. After that, it was the normal approval of expenses when I got back.

It is absolutely inefficient from an LOE and a cost side of things, and drives me crazy as a taxpayer, but that's a systematic inefficiency vice worker skill issue. Coming from it with a industrial process engineering /Six Sigma side of things our bureaucracy is nuts.

But if you tell a worker to do it, really up to the manager to understand if the worker can chug through it faster in the office or at home.

That level of analysis is way above what anyone is able to track for these roll up graphs though, which is why I wondered. MBAs applying business things to CAF is what is killing us now, as we've hollowed out a lot of resiliency but is 'efficient', as long as you ignore any requirement to maintain 'business continuity' and deal with inconvenient things like wars.

The entire 'Just in time' supply chain model for some of the cross border manufacturing supply chains on vehicles is a good example. THey save a lot of operational money by minimizing warehousing, but shut down production lines when things got held up at the border for four hours or something during COVID, and now with tariffs, because they had zero contingency built into their supply levels.

 

[PrairieFella]

I have been surprised that the knives didn't come out for PP after the election, probably due to a lack of competition. However, you do have to think that those thoughts are there considering that the last election was likely originally going to result in a Conservative majority. Now we have a Liberal minority potentially turning into a majority because of a few floor crossers.

Its a great Canadian political irony that if Poilievre had been leader when OToole was leader, they probably would have won the election. The same thing also applies vice versa.

 

[YZT580]

It is absolutely inefficient from an LOE and a cost side of things, and drives me crazy as a taxpayer, but that's a systematic inefficiency vice worker skill issue. Coming from it with a industrial process engineering /Six Sigma side of things our bureaucracy is nuts.

But if you tell a worker to do it, really up to the manager to understand if the worker can chug through it faster in the office or at home.

That level of analysis is way above what anyone is able to track for these roll up graphs though, which is why I wondered. MBAs applying business things to CAF is what is killing us now, as we've hollowed out a lot of resiliency but is 'efficient', as long as you ignore any requirement to maintain 'business continuity' and deal with inconvenient things like wars.

The entire 'Just in time' supply chain model for some of the cross border manufacturing supply chains on vehicles is a good example. THey save a lot of operational money by minimizing warehousing, but shut down production lines when things got held up at the border for four hours or something during COVID, and now with tariffs, because they had zero contingency built into their supply levels.

too true. GM had Carl Millard on almost permanent standby to travel down to various towns in the states. At times the a/c would come back with a single box of bolts strapped to the floor of an otherwise empty DC3.

 

[Jarnhamar]

I agree. Automation is the answer. Japan is actively pursuing new tech and new companies that can solve some of the key problems like near-human dexterity.

Fortunately there is a Canadian-based and Veteran-owned company has developed a solution that the Japanese are quite interested in:

Sarcomere Dynamics

That companies work seems like something out of a sci-fi movie. It's nice to imagine in the near future we may have limb replacements like that for children, vets, and so on.