Halifax Tar
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Id like to see more competition. I know i like to poo poo on Europe but data is dirt cheap over there...
Esims all way when I am abroad.
Liberal Minority Government 2025 - ???
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Id like to see more competition. I know i like to poo poo on Europe but data is dirt cheap over there...
Esims all way when I am abroad.
How fresh can it possibly be tho if its from Australia...???
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Bananas from Central America,grapes from Chile. The list goes on.
Three packing houses turn out 85% of Cdn beef.
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Remarkable, not seen this in the MSM. I did watch the Committee hearings. Confirmed my opinion that Senior Public Servants need to be accountable.
www.westernstandard.news
Blacklock's Reporter says Deputy Industry Minister Philip Jennings told the Commons government operations committee that Joly had no need to review the full agreement, and that he himself has never seen an unredacted version.
Jennings said only about 10 federal employees have actually read the costly deal.
Pressed by Liberal MP Iqra Khalid on how ministers handle negotiations and redactions, Jennings said the process varies and noted Joly was new to the file and not involved in negotiating the contract.
He said she is briefed only on select elements.
Joly previously told MPs she understood the Stellantis agreement and urged critics to “just look at the contracts.”
Opposition members have repeatedly asked what job guarantees cabinet tied to its multibillion-dollar subsidy package, but key terms remain hidden.
The committee ordered the Department of Industry to disclose all confidential clauses, but Jennings refused, citing commercial secrecy and warning that revealing details could damage trust with corporate partners and undermine future deals.
He insisted redactions were shaped through direct talks with Stellantis.
Conservative MP Jeremy Patzer challenged the department for ignoring Parliament’s order, demanding to know who “had the marker in hand.”
Jennings said the company ultimately decided what would be shared.
Bloc MP Marie-Helene Gaudreau blasted the arrangement, saying corporate interests cannot outrank taxpayers.
“Who is the boss?” she asked. “Is it the government or the company?”
Joly under fire after deputy admits she never read $15-billion Stellantis subsidy deal
Industry Minister Mélanie Joly is facing sharp questions after her top official admitted she never read the $15 billion Stellantis contract she has been defending, even as the automaker prepares to cut 3,000 jobs.
Joly under fire after deputy admits she never read $15-billion Stellantis subsidy deal 26 Nov 25
Industry Minister Mélanie Joly is facing sharp questions after her top official admitted she never read the $15 billion Stellantis contract she has been defending, even as the automaker prepares to cut 3,000 jobs.Blacklock's Reporter says Deputy Industry Minister Philip Jennings told the Commons government operations committee that Joly had no need to review the full agreement, and that he himself has never seen an unredacted version.
Jennings said only about 10 federal employees have actually read the costly deal.
Pressed by Liberal MP Iqra Khalid on how ministers handle negotiations and redactions, Jennings said the process varies and noted Joly was new to the file and not involved in negotiating the contract.
He said she is briefed only on select elements.
Joly previously told MPs she understood the Stellantis agreement and urged critics to “just look at the contracts.”
Opposition members have repeatedly asked what job guarantees cabinet tied to its multibillion-dollar subsidy package, but key terms remain hidden.
The committee ordered the Department of Industry to disclose all confidential clauses, but Jennings refused, citing commercial secrecy and warning that revealing details could damage trust with corporate partners and undermine future deals.
He insisted redactions were shaped through direct talks with Stellantis.
Conservative MP Jeremy Patzer challenged the department for ignoring Parliament’s order, demanding to know who “had the marker in hand.”
Jennings said the company ultimately decided what would be shared.
Bloc MP Marie-Helene Gaudreau blasted the arrangement, saying corporate interests cannot outrank taxpayers.
“Who is the boss?” she asked. “Is it the government or the company?”
Halifax Tar
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Remarkable, not seen this in the MSM. I did watch the Committee hearings. Confirmed my opinion that Senior Public Servants need to be accountable.
Joly under fire after deputy admits she never read $15-billion Stellantis subsidy deal
Industry Minister Mélanie Joly is facing sharp questions after her top official admitted she never read the $15 billion Stellantis contract she has been defending, even as the automaker prepares to cut 3,000 jobs.Joly under fire after deputy admits she never read $15-billion Stellantis subsidy deal 26 Nov 25
Industry Minister Mélanie Joly is facing sharp questions after her top official admitted she never read the $15 billion Stellantis contract she has been defending, even as the automaker prepares to cut 3,000 jobs.
Blacklock's Reporter says Deputy Industry Minister Philip Jennings told the Commons government operations committee that Joly had no need to review the full agreement, and that he himself has never seen an unredacted version.
Jennings said only about 10 federal employees have actually read the costly deal.
Pressed by Liberal MP Iqra Khalid on how ministers handle negotiations and redactions, Jennings said the process varies and noted Joly was new to the file and not involved in negotiating the contract.
He said she is briefed only on select elements.
Joly previously told MPs she understood the Stellantis agreement and urged critics to “just look at the contracts.”
Opposition members have repeatedly asked what job guarantees cabinet tied to its multibillion-dollar subsidy package, but key terms remain hidden.
The committee ordered the Department of Industry to disclose all confidential clauses, but Jennings refused, citing commercial secrecy and warning that revealing details could damage trust with corporate partners and undermine future deals.
He insisted redactions were shaped through direct talks with Stellantis.
Conservative MP Jeremy Patzer challenged the department for ignoring Parliament’s order, demanding to know who “had the marker in hand.”
Jennings said the company ultimately decided what would be shared.
Bloc MP Marie-Helene Gaudreau blasted the arrangement, saying corporate interests cannot outrank taxpayers.
“Who is the boss?” she asked. “Is it the government or the company?”
MilEME09
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And we have the MOU text
www.ctvnews.ca
Hard dates and time lines here, they need a pipeline proposal by July 1 next year, construction start 2029, and if everything happens the feds will lift the tanker ban
Carney signs major energy agreement with Alberta, laying out conditions for new oil pipeline
Prime Minister Mark Carney and Alberta Premier Danielle Smith have signed a major new energy co-operation agreement outlining the emission and other climate conditions that need to be met in order for a new oil pipeline to the Pacific to be approved under the federal major projects law.
www.ctvnews.ca
Hard dates and time lines here, they need a pipeline proposal by July 1 next year, construction start 2029, and if everything happens the feds will lift the tanker ban
Halifax Tar
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And we have the MOU text
Carney signs major energy agreement with Alberta, laying out conditions for new oil pipeline
Prime Minister Mark Carney and Alberta Premier Danielle Smith have signed a major new energy co-operation agreement outlining the emission and other climate conditions that need to be met in order for a new oil pipeline to the Pacific to be approved under the federal major projects law.
Hard dates and time lines here, they need a pipeline proposal by July 1 next year, construction start 2029, and if everything happens the feds will lift the tanker ban
Great announcement. I will check back in 2029.
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There seems to be a lot of major conditions.
- Constructing “one or more” pipelines, financed by the private sector with Indigenous co-ownership, moving at least one million barrels a day of “low emission Alberta bitumen” on a route prioritizing Asian markets, in addition to Trans Mountain pipeline expansion;
- Constructing and financing Pathways, the world’s largest carbon capture, utilization, and storage project – a piece of this deal framed as necessary and a prerequisite to offset emissions;
- Constructing thousands of megawatts of AI computing power, with a “large portion” dedicated to sovereign cloud; and
- Constructing large transmission interties with British Columbia and Saskatchewan to improve western provinces’ ability to supply low carbon power
If I were a private investor I'm not sure I'd rush to commit hundreds of millions, probably billions, for a LPC promise to do something later on.
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The fact there is firm dates to get much of this done by is reassuring though, and really point 4 is super needed, AB's grid is at its limit. It will be needed to make point 3 possible, point 2 enables AB to not care about the emissions cap, and point one opens the door to multiple pipelines not just one
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Teck had a big project all lined up a few years ago here in Alberta, and was promising around 6000 decent paying jobs.
Trudeau deliberately let their applications expire, after which Teck reconsidered the project and cancelled it.
So the federal government couldn't be bothered to communicate punctually or pull the trigger back when JT was in power, let's hope Carney ends his term with more to show
Trudeau deliberately let their applications expire, after which Teck reconsidered the project and cancelled it.
So the federal government couldn't be bothered to communicate punctually or pull the trigger back when JT was in power, let's hope Carney ends his term with more to show
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MilEME09
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It basically gives Smith & industry everything they wanted to make us competitive, but Carney has essentially said "we will do it, but only if you pony up"
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HavokFour
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Definitely causing a buzz where I (very related field) make my bread and butter.
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Which is what it should be.
The talk about the price of oil in the 1-3yr timeframe and how it may not be cost effective is nuts. The timeline for an oil pipeline is 20+yrs out.
Do you know why insurance companies like Manulife own huge, massive amounts of recoverable forest/timber lands? Because they are force to plan for the century timeframe - 100yrs out - with their investments. Why? Because life insurance policies can last 100yrs - a person gets a 'whole life' policy on their newborn daughter/son and Manulife's actuaries come back and say, X% of these whole life policies will last 100+yrs before they are paid out, we need assets that long in timeframe to cover for them. A pipeline is the sort of timeline planning. Its not what is the price of oil in 5yrs or 10yrs, its what's the price of that oil 20, 30, 40yrs down the road and will there be demand for the oil 30yrs out?
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And it could be the case that Alberta buys into the pipeline for X% of ownership, a various number of First Nations pick up another Y% and the jey will be who picks up the remaining Z%.
