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[daftandbarmy]

Trump disinvites Canada from Board of Peace in open letter to Carney

LIVE UPDATES: Trump disinvites Canada from Board of Peace in open letter to Carney

In an open letter shared on Truth Social Thursday night, U.S. President Donald Trump says Prime Minister Mark Carney’s invitation for the American-led Board of Peace has been withdrawn.

www.ctvnews.ca

Good.

At least we'll have an alibi when it all comes crashing down in a huge mess.

 

[Maxman1]

Trump disinvites Canada from Board of Peace in open letter to Carney

LIVE UPDATES: Trump disinvites Canada from Board of Peace in open letter to Carney

In an open letter shared on Truth Social Thursday night, U.S. President Donald Trump says Prime Minister Mark Carney’s invitation for the American-led Board of Peace has been withdrawn.

www.ctvnews.ca

Trump right now:

 

[HavokFour]

Trump disinvites Canada from Board of Peace in open letter to Carney

LIVE UPDATES: Trump disinvites Canada from Board of Peace in open letter to Carney

In an open letter shared on Truth Social Thursday night, U.S. President Donald Trump says Prime Minister Mark Carney’s invitation for the American-led Board of Peace has been withdrawn.

www.ctvnews.ca

Dammit I was gonna post the same story with the same gif.

Yeah- what an adorable little fit of pique by Trump. It’s already quite obvious the whole western world, including us, has been at best politely noncommittal, while having zero real interest.

When the initial invitation was made, before the terms and conditions were made clear, it seemed initially like a tight knit group focused on Gaza. Once it became clear Trump just wants his own security council, with blackjack and hookers, any non-dictatorial players lost interest fast. He’s gonna put together a round table of autocracies but that’s about it.

That’s not to say that, given the heavy middle eastern presence, this may not bring some of the right people to the same table to talk on Gaza. But clearly his ambitions for this body go well beyond that. They will not be achieved.

I ended up posting it in the Hamas thread before I saw it was already here.

 

[Brad Sallows]

"Board of Peace". What a stunt. Saves Carney the trouble of deciding what kind of off-ramp to use.

 

[Mills Bomb]

So let me get this straight....

Trump asks Canada for one billion Canadian tax dollars to join some globalist scheme to rebuild the Middle East pitched at the World Economic Forum.

And the Carney Liberals essentially declined / got disinvited.

It's going to be interesting to see how Maple MAGA and the pro-Trump WEF conspiracy crowd spin this one!

 

[CBH99]

So let me get this straight....

Trump asks Canada for one billion Canadian tax dollars to join some globalist scheme to rebuild the Middle East pitched at the World Economic Forum.

And the Carney Liberals essentially declined / got disinvited.

It's going to be interesting to see how Maple MAGA and the pro-Trump WEF conspiracy crowd spin this one!

Why thank you for the invitation...

Personally, I'm glad Canada isn't going to be a part of that (for now) - although I have a feeling it may weaken us economically & diplomatically down the road.

A billion dollars is a lot of money, and quite frankly it's money we don't have. With an $84B deficit in the last federal budget, I hope/want the federal government to start penny pinching as much as reasonably possible.

And Gaza already receives a lot of Canadian tax dollars in foreign aid as it is.

i realize that the $1B 'entrance fee' is intended to be used for reconstruction, but I suspect that at least some of that money would have been squandered away on administrative costs anyway

We also have to remember, the plans the US, Israel, and others (Qatar, Dubai, etc) have for Gaza aren't well known outside of a fairly small group of people...

But Gaza isn't going to be rebuilt to what it was before Israel's military campaign - and until those final plans are announced to the public, it's probably wise not to dive in head first.

Especially as a politician in a country that has largely opposed Israel's actions there, and has a minority government, so could be facing an election in the near-ish future.

...

Future plans for Gaza??

Hint hint - there was a massive natural gas reserve found underneath the general area that Gaza sits on - and there have been plans drawn up on the infrastructure needed to extract that resource for a while now.

My guess is that Gaza will not be rebuilt to be a primarily residential/commercial area for Palestinians the way it was prior to Israel's military campaign...

Now whether this whole thing happened because of that discovery, I'll leave that for my fellow conspiracy theorists to tackle...



(And f**k the WEF. All of em. Especially Starmer.)

 

[Czech_pivo]

Why thank you for the invitation...

Personally, I'm glad Canada isn't going to be a part of that (for now) - although I have a feeling it may weaken us economically & diplomatically down the road.

A billion dollars is a lot of money, and quite frankly it's money we don't have. With an $84B deficit in the last federal budget, I hope/want the federal government to start penny pinching as much as reasonably possible.

And Gaza already receives a lot of Canadian tax dollars in foreign aid as it is.

i realize that the $1B 'entrance fee' is intended to be used for reconstruction, but I suspect that at least some of that money would have been squandered away on administrative costs anyway

We also have to remember, the plans the US, Israel, and others (Qatar, Dubai, etc) have for Gaza aren't well known outside of a fairly small group of people...

But Gaza isn't going to be rebuilt to what it was before Israel's military campaign - and until those final plans are announced to the public, it's probably wise not to dive in head first.

Especially as a politician in a country that has largely opposed Israel's actions there, and has a minority government, so could be facing an election in the near-ish future.

...

Future plans for Gaza??

Hint hint - there was a massive natural gas reserve found underneath the general area that Gaza sits on - and there have been plans drawn up on the infrastructure needed to extract that resource for a while now.

My guess is that Gaza will not be rebuilt to be a primarily residential/commercial area for Palestinians the way it was prior to Israel's military campaign...

Now whether this whole thing happened because of that discovery, I'll leave that for my fellow conspiracy theorists to tackle...



(And f**k the WEF. All of em. Especially Starmer.)

The UK has already said no, France as well. Australia, Germany, Japan and a significant number of others haven’t said yes yet as well. With Canada, the UK and France on the ‘no’ side, I suspect the majority of the above will follow suit as well.
Trump is pissed off that the vast of majority of European countries are not going to be in the Board of Peace. It’s a clear sign of Europe/Canada ‘breaking’ with the US in this. Hungary will be Hungary, fine, who cares, in bed with Trump and Putin already, enjoy.

 

[Eaglelord17]

Why thank you for the invitation...

Personally, I'm glad Canada isn't going to be a part of that (for now) - although I have a feeling it may weaken us economically & diplomatically down the road.

A billion dollars is a lot of money, and quite frankly it's money we don't have. With an $84B deficit in the last federal budget, I hope/want the federal government to start penny pinching as much as reasonably possible.

And Gaza already receives a lot of Canadian tax dollars in foreign aid as it is.

i realize that the $1B 'entrance fee' is intended to be used for reconstruction, but I suspect that at least some of that money would have been squandered away on administrative costs anyway

We also have to remember, the plans the US, Israel, and others (Qatar, Dubai, etc) have for Gaza aren't well known outside of a fairly small group of people...

But Gaza isn't going to be rebuilt to what it was before Israel's military campaign - and until those final plans are announced to the public, it's probably wise not to dive in head first.

Especially as a politician in a country that has largely opposed Israel's actions there, and has a minority government, so could be facing an election in the near-ish future.

...

Future plans for Gaza??

Hint hint - there was a massive natural gas reserve found underneath the general area that Gaza sits on - and there have been plans drawn up on the infrastructure needed to extract that resource for a while now.

My guess is that Gaza will not be rebuilt to be a primarily residential/commercial area for Palestinians the way it was prior to Israel's military campaign...

Now whether this whole thing happened because of that discovery, I'll leave that for my fellow conspiracy theorists to tackle...



(And f**k the WEF. All of em. Especially Starmer.)

Looking into it more, it looks like Canada was willing to be on the board but not willing to pay to be on it.

Very Canadian of us, I am not surprised Trump pulled the invitation. I wouldn’t offer it to freeloaders either.

 

[Halifax Tar]

Is this one of those:

I quit.

No! you're fired.

Moments?

 

[lenaitch]

I'm trying to figure out why we would want to pay a billion dollars to be part of his ego tour in the first place.

 

[Furniture]

Looking into it more, it looks like Canada was willing to be on the board but not willing to pay to be on it.

Very Canadian of us, I am not surprised Trump pulled the invitation. I wouldn’t offer it to freeloaders either.

Why would Canada pay money into a "board" that they would realistically have zero say in? Inviting Canada and other Western powers was done to lend it legitimacy, not to ensure that it achieves its goals in a way that represents the values of the West.

 

[Altair]

Dammit I was gonna post the same story with the same gif.

Yeah- what an adorable little fit of pique by Trump. It’s already quite obvious the whole western world, including us, has been at best politely noncommittal, while having zero real interest.

When the initial invitation was made, before the terms and conditions were made clear, it seemed initially like a tight knit group focused on Gaza. Once it became clear Trump just wants his own security council, with blackjack and hookers, any non-dictatorial players lost interest fast. He’s gonna put together a round table of autocracies but that’s about it.

That’s not to say that, given the heavy middle eastern presence, this may not bring some of the right people to the same table to talk on Gaza. But clearly his ambitions for this body go well beyond that. They will not be achieved.

So if trump steps down as per the Constitution and the next president is not a bootlicker, the board of peace is dead because trump will still be chairing it, not the next US president, Trump. I cannot imagine the next president, again, assuming it was not a boot locker, being on board with this.

Why would Canada pay money into a "board" that they would realistically have zero say in? Inviting Canada and other Western powers was done to lend it legitimacy, not to ensure that it achieves its goals in a way that represents the values of the West.

The second Putin was invited we should have said no.

 

[MilEME09]

The second Putin was invited we should have said no.

Its a dictatorship club, and trump controls all the Money

 

[HavokFour]

Hanwha has some big ambitions in Canada outside of the subs.

Hanwha Group says aims to create at least 200,000 jobs in Canada by 2040

South Korean conglomerate Hanwha Group aims to create at least 200,000 jobs in Canada by 2040 through cooperation across various sectors including shipbuilding, the company said, as it seeks to win a fiercely contested submarine contract.

www.reuters.com

 

[RangerRay]

A non-MAGA, long time anti-authoritarian, foreign observer has noticed the hypocrisy in our PM’s speech.

Between Carney and Trump

For a united Free World—with or without the US government.

www.thenextmove.org

Yet Carney’s references to “strategic partnership” with China—and Ottawa’s recent entreaties to Beijing—are troubling. What is the point of leaving an authoritarian-leaning United States behind only to embrace the People’s Republic of China, a consolidated single-party dictatorship for nearly eighty years?

Some Canadians and Europeans might bristle at this.

“Why can’t we work with China? Why should we inherit the Yankees’ problems” I can hear them asking.

Well, I am not American, but as a Russian dissident, I do know a thing or two about dictatorship.

China is not just an American problem. Dictatorship is a globalproblem. The Chinese are more tactful than Trump, but they are already bringing pressure to bear against Canada. The Chinese government surveils dissidents on Canadian soil. It has interfered in elections there. This is not some wild conspiracy theory, it is the assessment of Canada’s own intelligence services.

Canadian leaders are wise to consider what could happen if America violates their country’s sovereignty. China already is violating Canada’s sovereignty. A bear hug with dictatorship is not a sustainable strategy. It is a matter of trading one protection racket for another.

Canadian leaders are wise to consider what could happen if America violates their country’s sovereignty. China already is violating Canada’s sovereignty. A bear hug with dictatorship is not a sustainable strategy. It is a matter of trading one protection racket for another.

The alternative to Carney’s proposed “strategic partnership” with China is a true alliance of democracies—without America, if need be.

The collective might of the Free World—economically, scientifically, militarily, institutionally—still outpaces the nondemocratic world.

That is true even if we remove the US government from the equation. Partnership between Canada and Europe, Europe and Japan, Japan and South Korea, South Korea and Australia, and so on. It must include a proactive defense of frontline democracies like Ukraine and Taiwan. It means no more fence-sitting on Iran and the Middle East in general.

 

[PPCLI Guy]

Looking into it more, it looks like Canada was willing to be on the board but not willing to pay to be on it.

Very Canadian of us, I am not surprised Trump pulled the invitation. I wouldn’t offer it to freeloaders either.

Hmm. The timeline doesn't match your assertions.

1. Trump proposes Board with Gaza focus
2. Initial list of invitees is small, and appropriate to the task wrt Gaza
3. Trump invites Canada
4. Trump then introduces the $1B membership fee
5. Canada says "what"?
6. Trump states that Board will compete with UN with a view to replacing UN, and remit well beyond Gaza
7. Trump invites a host of unsavoury actors to join the Board (Autocrats and Kleptocrats), including both Putin and Netanyahu (neither have accepted yet)
8. Trump reveals that this UN replacement would have him as Chair for life, with the only veto, and the right to select his successor
9. Trump uninvites Canada.

This is, essentially, another con. What you call freeloading is more like refusing to be a patsy again in yet another scheme to enrich the Family and his Jolly Ollies.

 

[Quirky]

Looking into it more, it looks like Canada was willing to be on the board but not willing to pay to be on it.

Very Canadian of us, I am not surprised Trump pulled the invitation. I wouldn’t offer it to freeloaders either.

Meh, in this case, Canada and Carney avoided a big shit show. We shouldn't be anywhere near this Gaza board of peace, let the locals handle it. There are bigger problems we need to worry about.

 

[The Bread Guy]

Is this one of those:

I quit.

No! you're fired.

Moments?

Depends how terse the email from HR announcing the departure is

Meanwhile, on the CHN file, some "subtle" "hints."

Chinese ambassador pitches new EVs as first step to new Canadian jobs, cheaper cars

OTTAWA — As critics attack Ottawa's agreement last week to start allowing a small number of Chinese electric vehicles into Canada, China's envoy to Ottawa says Beijing wants to partner with Canadian autoworkers to create good jobs and build cheaper cars.

ca.finance.yahoo.com

 

[Altair]

Depends how terse the email from HR announcing the departure is

Meanwhile, on the CHN file, some "subtle" "hints."

Chinese ambassador pitches new EVs as first step to new Canadian jobs, cheaper cars

OTTAWA — As critics attack Ottawa's agreement last week to start allowing a small number of Chinese electric vehicles into Canada, China's envoy to Ottawa says Beijing wants to partner with Canadian autoworkers to create good jobs and build cheaper cars.

ca.finance.yahoo.com

It's happening

Just one more shoe to drop for my eternal happiness.

 

[CBH99]

The second Putin was invited we should have said no.

I don't know if I necessarily agree on this point...

Keeping Russia as an enemy doesn't benefit anybody except those who own stock in defence companies & the MIC as a whole.


But we can't keep Russia as an 'enemy' forever, although I suspect maybe that's the idea for now.

Including Putin, or at least offering him a spot on the board, is a gesture clearly intended to improve relations at a time when our relations with Russia are at an all time low.

Saying "Well no! We don't wanna play if you're inviting THAT kid to the playground too!" doesn't accomplish anything in terms of improving relations

...

All that being said, I'm glad we aren't joining this Board of Peace.

Regardless of what direction the powers at be choose to go with this, it seems to be cursed ground either way. Frought with problems we are better off staying out of.