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Liberal Minority Government 2025 - ???

Interesting tack, politically speaking ...
Taking one of Team Blue's priorities & running with it pre-snap-election, as some of the commentariat are suggesting?

We'll have to see ....

I am not sure what more the CPC needs to be told to get them (us) to realize they need a leadership change.

PMMC and LPC are essentially running a CPC Gov. Minus firearms, which they don't seem to have public backing on.

I guess the trouble is who else is there ?
 
I am not sure what more the CPC needs to be told to get them (us) to realize they need a leadership change.

PMMC and LPC are essentially running a CPC Gov. Minus firearms, which they don't seem to have public backing on.
Team Red, Paul Martin dialect maybe?
I guess the trouble is who else is there ?
Yup. Although if PP were to not be leader anymore for whatever reason, I can't see why contenders wouldn't race forward.

Right now, even though there's some strong players in the caucus (Michael Chong & Michelle Rempel Garner, to name just a few) - not to mention outside of caucus if they thought they could make a go of it - it still seems to be mostly PP as the flag bearer/lightning rod.
 
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Never has a speech delivered so much, for so few, so fast.
I don't know about that Altair. The "you had a choice" line by Mulroney had quite an impact. But addressing comments from above, I don't understand why everyone is gunning for PP. Although he isn't in power it seems that all lot of his objections are being translated into government actions albeit he isn't getting credit. From my viewpoint, I care less about whose picture is on the wall and more about the tone of the directives emanating from OW and so far they are distinctly blue with only a tinge of red. Am I missing something?
 
I don't know about that Altair. The "you had a choice" line by Mulroney had quite an impact.
It certainly did, but that was a line in a debate, not a stand alone speech.
But addressing comments from above, I don't understand why everyone is gunning for PP. Although he isn't in power it seems that all lot of his objections are being translated into government actions albeit he isn't getting credit. From my viewpoint, I care less about whose picture is on the wall and more about the tone of the directives emanating from OW and so far they are distinctly blue with only a tinge of red. Am I missing something?
PP had a choice.

Work together with the LPC to get things done. He could then reasonably claim credit for such things. He decided to be obstructionist and not work with the LPC. The LPC swoop in and steal his policy ideas. The LPC claim full credit.

And on the surface of it, PP is helping them in that regard. He will say something like not far enough, or play games in committees or call a vote trying to expose divisions in the LPC. Meanwhile Carney is hanging out with Moe and Doug Ford, conservatives if I remember correctly.

It also scares progressives. Because if Carney is more or less a red tory, and PP is saying he's not doing enough, progressives are thinking to themselves, "well damn, how much further would PP go is he isn't on board with Carney?"

It's telling from that poll that the real collapse in support is from the BQ and NDP. PP is doing himself no favours.

I hope he stays on as leader of the CPC.
 
I am not sure what more the CPC needs to be told to get them (us) to realize they need a leadership change.
With still 3-ish years before an election is due I'm not sure of it makes sence to swap in a new leader now? The new leader vibes will mellow out by the election. Right now any new CPC leader will be made out to be pro-Trump somehow by the LPC and it will hang over their head their whole time. Might be wise to wait and see who replaces Trump to take that easy button away from the LPC.
 
With still 3-ish years before an election is due I'm not sure of it makes sence to swap in a new leader now? The new leader vibes will mellow out by the election. Right now any new CPC leader will be made out to be pro-Trump somehow by the LPC and it will hang over their head their whole time. Might be wise to wait and see who replaces Trump to take that easy button away from the LPC.

I'd argue that's 3 years for Canadians to get to know the leader, and allow ample time to completely dispel such notions well ahead of the election all while Trump is still in office.
 
I'd argue that's 3 years for Canadians to get to know the leader, and allow ample time to completely dispel such notions well ahead of the election all while Trump is still in office.
Could pick a Micheal Chong or Rona Ambrose if she was ever so inclined.
 
I am not sure what more the CPC needs to be told to get them (us) to realize they need a leadership change.

PMMC and LPC are essentially running a CPC Gov. Minus firearms, which they don't seem to have public backing on.

I guess the trouble is who else is there ?
Does there have to be?
 
With still 3-ish years before an election is due I'm not sure of it makes sence to swap in a new leader now? The new leader vibes will mellow out by the election. Right now any new CPC leader will be made out to be pro-Trump somehow by the LPC and it will hang over their head their whole time. Might be wise to wait and see who replaces Trump to take that easy button away from the LPC.
It’s a leadership review. If, in the wake of it, Poilievre makes an exit, they would choose an interim for some span of time, get their poop in a group, and then hold a leadership race. Could easily be a year before they chose a permanent leader. As soon as they did so they’d be looking to ramp up to election if they can succeed in triggering one.
 
It’s a leadership review. If, in the wake of it, Poilievre makes an exit, they would choose an interim for some span of time, get their poop in a group, and then hold a leadership race. Could easily be a year before they chose a permanent leader. As soon as they did so they’d be looking to ramp up to election if they can succeed in triggering one.

He seems to be a committed father and husband. He's done 20 years in parliament, and he's done some stuff. Now he's taking a beating, I'm sure he has connections to get a good job. I really wouldn't be surprised if he does walk. But hubris is a hell of a drug.
 
He seems to be a committed father and husband. He's done 20 years in parliament, and he's done some stuff. Now he's taking a beating, I'm sure he has connections to get a good job. I really wouldn't be surprised if he does walk. But hubris is a hell of a drug.
Why not walk after losing in Chareton?

I feel he's more of a Scheer than O'Toole.
 
3%? Not a bad deal, but something tells me the koreas are eexpecting big sales increases.

3% would likely pay back the facility and then some in 10 years.

Algoma is in a unique position where once that second arc furnace is running unless the States opens up for business again, they will have a excess capacity in the 2-2.6m tons of steel due to limited products and lack of alternate sales partners.
 
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