Liberal Minority Government 2025 - ???

[FJAG]

The East gloats over their victories, and thumbs their noses at the concerns of the West.

I've lived decades in each of the East and the West. Where you go wrong is thinking that anyone in the East actually thinks or cares about folks in the West. They neither gloat nor thumb their noses. They may bitch about the price of gas being high is the West's fault, but that's it.

The cynical saying in Toronto was that there is nothing north of the 401.

 

[Furniture]

I've lived decades in each of the East and the West. Where you go wrong is thinking that anyone in the East actually thinks or cares about folks in the West. They neither gloat nor thumb their noses. They may bitch about the price of gas being high is the West's fault, but that's it.

The cynical saying in Toronto was that there is nothing north of the 401.

That is thumbing one's nose at others... Even if the people doing it don't care to notice.

I'm from PEI, I am from the actual East, the other ignored part of the country...

 

[daftandbarmy]

That is thumbing one's nose at others... Even if the people doing it don't care to notice.

I'm from PEI, I am from the actual East, the other ignored part of the country...

And you guys were crazy enough to build a bridge to the madness

 

[Furniture]

And you guys were crazy enough to build a bridge to the madness

It only took the GoC 124 years to honour that promise...

 

[daftandbarmy]

It only took the GoC 124 years to honour that promise...

They probably needed an 'announceable' for Canada 125

 

[Quirky]

https://twitter.com/x/status/2031811394010796171

https://twitter.com/x/status/2031811618355429489

I'm glad the Liberals aren't too concerned about IRGC agents operating in Canada. What a relief!

 

[RangerRay]

This is totally in keeping with this government’s non-concern for human rights.

Canadians face ‘tsunami’ of transnational repression in coming years, cyber-research group says

Think tank cites rise of U.S. authoritarianism, AI and Carney’s disinterest in human rights

www.theglobeandmail.com

Archived:

https://archive.ph/ZjiMj

Canada and the rest of the democratic world are facing a “tsunami” of transnational and digital repression with the rise of authoritarianism in the U.S., the arrival of artificial intelligence and a softening of attitudes on human rights, according to a respected Canadian cyber-research group.

 

[Eaglelord17]

There already is representation based on population, and Senatorial and Grandfathering Clauses to account for shifts in population density

Elections Canada - The Representstion Formula

The "rural-urban divide" debate tends to ignore reality that land can't vote.

Yes however the needs of rural citizens are very different from urban citizens. Just giving urban citizens a 100% carte blanche in decisions will lead to much more serious issues.

You can’t have the majority making every decision especially when it runs counter to the minority. We had a whole constitution created to address those types of issues (for example Quebec nationalism).

 

[Halifax Tar]

Yes however the needs of rural citizens are very different from urban citizens. Just giving urban citizens a 100% carte blanche in decisions will lead to much more serious issues.

You can’t have the majority making every decision especially when it runs counter to the minority. We had a whole constitution created to address those types of issues (for example Quebec nationalism).

Again the term @Remius taught me was tyranny of the majority.

 

[Eaglelord17]

Again the term @Remius taught me was tyranny of the majority.

I like ‘democracy is two wolves and a lamb deciding on what is for dinner’

 

[rmc_wannabe]

Yes however the needs of rural citizens are very different from urban citizens. Just giving urban citizens a 100% carte blanche in decisions will lead to much more serious issues.

You can’t have the majority making every decision especially when it runs counter to the minority. We had a whole constitution created to address those types of issues (for example Quebec nationalism).

That was supposed to be covered by representation in the Senate, but the Fathers of Confederation also didn't account for westward expansion to create new urban populations to rival Montreal, Toronto, and the entirety of the Maritimes.

Vancouver was less than 1000 pers when they entered Confederation in 1870, so suffice to say the seat allocation needs a revamp.

As mentioned in other threads, trying to get a sitting government to crack open the Constitution to make those amendments is like asking a snake to start chowing down on it's tail.

 

[mariomike]

As mentioned in other threads, trying to get a sitting government to crack open the Constitution to make those amendments is like asking a snake to start chowing down on it's tail.

Not a Constitutional SME.

But, from what I understand, separating 243 square miles of real estate from a province of 415,518 square miles would require an amendment to the Constitution of Canada. The constitutional amendment would require resolutions from the House of Commons of Canada and the  Senate of Canada and resolutions from the legislative bodies of 7 of the provinces representing at least 50% of the population of Canada.

So, good luck to anyone hoping to separate Canada from a Monarchy, or separate a province from Canada.

 

[MilEME09]

https://twitter.com/x/status/2031811394010796171

https://twitter.com/x/status/2031811618355429489

I'm glad the Liberals aren't too concerned about IRGC agents operating in Canada. What a relief!

I have yet to see any source from the CPC for their claim. The only thing I can find is from 2024, citing unnamed officials that 700 people with IRGC links are in canada. So we have no current data since the IRGC was designated a terror group.

 

[rmc_wannabe]

Not a Constitutional SME.

But, from what I understand, separating 243 square miles of real estate from a province of 415,518 square miles would require an amendment to the Constitution of Canada. The constitutional amendment would require resolutions from the House of Commons of Canada and the  Senate of Canada and resolutions from the legislative bodies of 7 of the provinces representing at least 50% of the population of Canada.

So, good luck to anyone hoping to separate Canada from a Monarchy, or separate a province from Canada.

Not what I was recommending at all.

My point was to highlight that a lot of the assumptions that motivated the division of representation in the Senate, are wholly not respresentitive by population (kind of a good thing) but can lead to the tyranny of the majority.

I also was stating that any constitutional amendments in representation, electoral reform, Republican aspiration, etc. would need to be driven by a sitting government that had a full mandate to do so.

But as I also highlighted, I would sooner find proper fitting CADPAT MCU before finding a government willing to burn the house down while they were still inside it.