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Liberal (Minority/Majority) Government 2025 - ???
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Hmm, with Carney already meeting with the German Chancellor, meeting with the Spanish PM would be 2 of the 3 members of FCAS.
If France pulls out, maybe Canada (and Belgium), could move in.
Except that he hasn't done anything yet...
He's announced all kinds of things. But what has he actually done so far??
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I guess I qualify as an urban voter (despite technically living in a hamlet) but there's some things I would like clarity on before I could confidently cast a vote for Carney...
- What are the actual immigration numbers currently? Or moreso, what's the general status of our current immigration goals?
Call me paranoid from the Trudeau years of listening to him say one thing while watching him do another, it's hard for me not to assume that same habit exists with the guy who was his chief advisor for much of the time he was PM.
Are we actually slowing immigration down?
Or are we still on track to hit the 100 million mark as stated in the "Canada21 Agenda" that magically hit the air waves out of nowhere a few months back?
- What is Carney's actual relationship with Donald Trump like? How far back do they actually go? What is the financial history between the two?
Because on the one hand, it seems like his strategy is to piss off Donald Trump as much as possible...
Whether it's allowing Chinese EV's into the Canadian market (something he was specifically warned not to do, but did anyway...)
Or delaying the purchase of the F-35 for as long as possible (while quietly pushing ahead with another batch, or so I heard earlier today)
To his speech at Davos where he did the exact same thing that Chrystia Freeland used to do, that destroyed the kind of favour & special relationship that many Canadians and Americans expected to matter more now in the current day, with geopolitical shifts happening the way they are...
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But that just seems at odds with the kind of relationship you would think the two would have, given the $1B relationship between Brookfield and Jared Kushner.
And the fact that Carney was a big wig at Goldman Sachs during the same years Trump was building his empire from the same city...
They went to the same Christmas parties, sat in the same boardrooms, partied on the same island with the same people, and had extensive financial relationships with each other.
So, just some clarity on where these two actually stand would be nice...
- What is his strategy when it comes to our natural resources?
So far, American firms have rushed in and bought up all kinds of stakes and shares in Canadian mining companies and projects.
The Pentagon is even openly and actively a major player in a mine in Ontario now.
What part of the "Elbows Up" strategy is this anyway? Is there a brochure or something that I missed on the way in?
And with all this American money buying up stakes & claims in mining projects all over the country, will there still be enough left over to satisfy all those Chinese companies we just agreed to allow access to our markets?
- What is the actual strategy, re China?
Is embracing China - while simultaneously snubbing Trump & pissing him off by allowing China to encroach their influence right up to the US border a good idea?
Because apparently we are expressing an openness in sharing law enforcement intelligence with China along the same lines as we share intelligence with American law enforcement agencies...
This obviously creates a real & tangible security concern for the US, and other members of 5 Eyes as well. Again, is this a good idea?
Not to mention all the other questions we still have about what Carney is negotiating on our behalf... (since he doesn't seem to feel compelled to tell us anything, despite negotiating on our behalf)
I think Carney is running out of time to execute on ANYTHING he said he would do.
Because while approx $2.25B buys the government a lot of favour with the press corps that we now apparently fund, Canadians from coast to coast to coast MUST realize by now that nothing is changing.
Food inflation is highest in the G7 as a direct result of the government imposing carbon taxes on farmers & food producers, pipelines still aren't being built, he's still choosing to run even bigger deficits than Freeland did, he hasn't lifted the tanker ban, etc etc
As an urban voter...so far this new guy seems A LOT like the old guy, just more likeable...
Why would I vote for more of the same?
"No business case..."Off to Germany tomorrow.
Carney set to strengthen security and defence ties in Germany this week
Prime Minister Mark Carney intends to deepen defence ties and attract new business investment when he travels to Germany this week, according to government officials.www.ctvnews.ca
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Europe trip has been suspended.
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Emotional Carney says nation mourns with Tumbler Ridge, B.C., after deadly school shooting
Prime Minister says he has asked for flags on Parliament Hill to be lowered to half-mast for the next week
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Carney's not going but McG, Adnad and Fuhr are stillEurope trip has been suspended.
ArchiveEmotional Carney says nation mourns with Tumbler Ridge, B.C., after deadly school shooting
Prime Minister says he has asked for flags on Parliament Hill to be lowered to half-mast for the next week
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We are just shy of 1 year since he took office, things like investment agreements signed in Q3 and 4 take time to see fruit. However he did increase the defense budget, cut the lowest tax bracket, get rid of the consumer carbon tax, recently the EV mandate, Non US trade has increased dramatically which is likely from his governents program to help businesses find new markets.
380,000 for 2026, we will need to wait until the Q1 stats come to see where thats at
Supplementary Information for the 2026-2028 Immigration Levels Plan - Canada.ca
Supplementary Information for the 2026-2028 Immigration Levels Plan
the extra 14 gives us a full squadron so it makes sense, though I am annoyed my self the review has not come out as promised
you can find the Critical minerals strategy here, there will be annual reports too
The Canadian Critical Minerals Strategy - Canada.ca
From Exploration to Recycling: Powering the Green and Digital Economy for Canada and the World
The myth the press has been bought by the government doesn't meet reality when you look at the amount of critical articles coming from even the CBC. instead it goes to show journalistic independence. Especially considering only two major news corps are canadian owned now, Shaw and the CBC.
The biggest drivers of food inflation was not carbon taxes, a weaker canadian dollar makes imports more expensive, and when we get winter the majority of the year, we import a lot of food. Importation costs was the largest single chunk of inflation in 2025. Made even worse by poor growing seasons in many regions of the world, canada included. domestically live stock herds have been declining in size causing prices to go up, feed costs due to poor growing season drive up costs as well, which leads to herds being shrank more. Down the supply chain skilled worker shortages in the processing industry, and a lack of competition in the grocery industry (coupled with price fixing scandals) all drive costs more. The grocery code of conduct goes a long way to potentially address this but its voluntary.
Let me ask you this, Why do you feel like its the same? what role does the opposition CPC playing the same play book as they did with PMJT affect your view? What additional steps especially after the MOU with AB would you want to see to consider this a different ship?
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Some tidbits on what might be in the new DIS.
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Carney government to select private-sector ‘strategic partners’ in new defence industry strategy: source
It’s one part of the new strategy the government plans to publish Wednesday. A senior government source said the idea is to help create “anchors” for future growth across the defence sector.
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Opinion piece, but I think it's fair to say his trip immediately aged like unrefidgerated milk.
Jivani's Washington rendezvous reveals Conservatives just aren't serious
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Former senior advisor to Justin Trudeau says all I need to know about that article.
I’ve seen her as a pundit a few times and she isn’t terrible.
The article though is blowing Jivani’s visit a bit out of proportion in relation to the CPC. Seems this was him going on his own without approval or concurrence.
Given that he is a new MP, former radio guy and doing these Charlie Kirk campus style tours my guess is he’s trying to place himself in a potential leadership run if that were to happen.
He got attention. Made a bit of a fool of himself. That’s about it.
And not a good look.
Of course they asked if he would cross the floor or sit as an independent lol.
Of course they asked if he would cross the floor or sit as an independent lol.
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Based on his personal, family and romantic history that's not a comforting sentiment.
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Nobody tell Vance that there's a Status Of Forces Agreement!
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You know...all of your points here are fair & pretty spot on. I think, point for point, you make good arguments and are well read - cheers to making me really ponder & reflect on my responseWe are just shy of 1 year since he took office, things like investment agreements signed in Q3 and 4 take time to see fruit. However he did increase the defense budget, cut the lowest tax bracket, get rid of the consumer carbon tax, recently the EV mandate, Non US trade has increased dramatically which is likely from his governents program to help businesses find new markets.
380,000 for 2026, we will need to wait until the Q1 stats come to see where thats at
Supplementary Information for the 2026-2028 Immigration Levels Plan - Canada.ca
Supplementary Information for the 2026-2028 Immigration Levels Planwww.canada.ca
the extra 14 gives us a full squadron so it makes sense, though I am annoyed my self the review has not come out as promised
you can find the Critical minerals strategy here, there will be annual reports too
The Canadian Critical Minerals Strategy - Canada.ca
From Exploration to Recycling: Powering the Green and Digital Economy for Canada and the World
The myth the press has been bought by the government doesn't meet reality when you look at the amount of critical articles coming from even the CBC. instead it goes to show journalistic independence. Especially considering only two major news corps are canadian owned now, Shaw and the CBC.
The biggest drivers of food inflation was not carbon taxes, a weaker canadian dollar makes imports more expensive, and when we get winter the majority of the year, we import a lot of food. Importation costs was the largest single chunk of inflation in 2025. Made even worse by poor growing seasons in many regions of the world, canada included. domestically live stock herds have been declining in size causing prices to go up, feed costs due to poor growing season drive up costs as well, which leads to herds being shrank more. Down the supply chain skilled worker shortages in the processing industry, and a lack of competition in the grocery industry (coupled with price fixing scandals) all drive costs more. The grocery code of conduct goes a long way to potentially address this but its voluntary.
Let me ask you this, Why do you feel like its the same? what role does the opposition CPC playing the same play book as they did with PMJT affect your view? What additional steps especially after the MOU with AB would you want to see to consider this a different ship?
And Thank You for posting those links. I'll do some concentrated reading later this afternoon.
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- Your point about food inflation is a good one, re we do import most of our food, and the lower Canadian dollar definitely contributes to the increase in price
My question is how big of a role have the carbon taxes played in increasing the cost of food, up AND down the chain?
Increasing the taxes on fertilizer, feed, and farm equipment must have played some part? Increasing the transportation costs must have affected food prices too?
How have government policies and taxes affected herd sizes? The cost of feed? The cost of transport?
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- My main concern is how much money our government is currently spending.
An $84B deficit just in this most recent budget alone...yikes! (And now with this grocery rebate, add another $11.4B to that!)
When we pay more money in interest than we do on health transfers to the provinces, I think it's safe to say we have a debt problem.
Adding close to $100B more to that debt just in this one budget isn't exactly inspiring me to feel hopeful for our economic future here...
I realize it takes time for the tangible effects of any economic strategy to be felt, and I hope all of his work on this front starts to bear some real fruit
I'm willing to give him the benefit of the doubt on this. Hopefully with so many new markets now accessible to us, we can replace some of the business that we've lost south of the border.
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I think I have to disagree with you about the Canadian mainstream media.
The CBC's budget is $1.9B in this latest budget, with an additional $325M in other media subsidies.
That's A LOT of money.
If I were the government, and I was about to give over $2.1B annually to the various media outlets of the country, I would want to see some return on that investment...
(Actually personally I wouldn't, but you get my drift...)
That's a lot of money being poured into an industry that's primary purpose seems to be to influence public perception/opinion.
(Their primary business is NOT to keep the public well informed or to be totally objective in their reporting, and I think we've all seen plenty of examples to know that the truth isn't always the media's #1 goal)
Does the CBC still ask some uncomfortable questions of the government? Yes, they do
It would give away the game if they didn't.
They HAVE to ask some tough questions, and seemingly hold some people's feet to the fire to maintain credibility with the public.
If a state-funded broadcaster only broadcasts rosey government messaging & doesn't ask some hard questions along the way, the jig is up. It becomes all too obvious it's just a state-funded information source, and viewership would drop dramatically.
(I realize that state-funded media and publically-funded media are the same thing, with the latter generally perceived as more positive. But CBC doesn't allow for public commentary on their Youtube channel, and tends to close off the comment section of their articles a day or two after they've been posted. So since the public doesn't get to comment on any stories covered by the publically funded media, I lean towards calling it state-funded.)
Same goes for the other media companies that get the $325M - are they really going to bite the hand that feeds them?
Sure, they'll push back on government talking points & ask some blunt questions of Ministers from time to time. (Re Vassy on CTV)
But $325M? Annually?
I have said for a long time now, if these big media corporations can't survive on their own...that's on them. Good riddance.
Perpetually propping them up with taxpayer dollars can't and shouldn't be the only way they survive. It's against the public's interest to be propping up private industry, and costs public dollars that could be spent elsewhere.
(Or better yet, not spent at all.)
If we truly believe in a market economy, the market will sort itself out. Let them fail if they can't find a way to succeed in the media space here.
Rebel News, for example, might not be everybody's cup of tea - but they don't accept government funding, they keep their operation lean, and cover stories from a different perspective.
Whether people listen to them or not, they offer an important alternative viewpoint from what the other outlets offer.
Another way of viewing this issue is...what stories are the big media conpanies not covering? What angles to a story are they not conveying? What facts are they focusing on, and what facts are being left out?
And how much of the above is affected by their funding source?
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Overall, I think when it comes to Carney I just have to wait & see what the results look like...
Honestly, I GENUINELY hope he makes a believer out of me. I support him in his goals & ideas as far as they benefit the average citizen, who these days have had their spending power significantly diminished from where we were even 10 years ago
And I realize these things can't happen overnight
So for me to be convinced this is a different ship, I think it will just take time to see how this all pans out...
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OPG signs deal with Port Hope, Ont., to build new large nuclear reactor
OPG signs deal with Port Hope, Ont., to build new large nuclear reactor | Globalnews.ca
Energy Minister Stephen Lecce says the proposed nuclear project in Port Hope, Ont., would create 1,700 jobs locally and more than 10,000 jobs across the province.
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Lecce says the agreement with Port Hope is a critical step in the creation of the world’s largest nuclear station that would power up to 10 million homes.
Is this item on the list to be 'fast tracked' for Federal approval? I don't even think Ontario has 10 million homes within the province. This facility will be massive in scope. Adding 1,700 new permanent jobs is quite significant. I would imagine that the facilities 'Armed Emergency Response Unit' will be fairly significant in size and capability.
don't forget sales to the U.S. With New York state trying to go completely green without sufficient backups there should be lots of scope for sales. It is a long way to the border though unless they put the cables on the lake bottomOPG signs deal with Port Hope, Ont., to build new large nuclear reactor
OPG signs deal with Port Hope, Ont., to build new large nuclear reactor | Globalnews.ca
Energy Minister Stephen Lecce says the proposed nuclear project in Port Hope, Ont., would create 1,700 jobs locally and more than 10,000 jobs across the province.
Lecce says the agreement with Port Hope is a critical step in the creation of the world’s largest nuclear station that would power up to 10 million homes.
Is this item on the list to be 'fast tracked' for Federal approval? I don't even think Ontario has 10 million homes within the province. This facility will be massive in scope. Adding 1,700 new permanent jobs is quite significant. I would imagine that the facilities 'Armed Emergency Response Unit' will be fairly significant in size and capability.
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