Liberal (Minority/Majority) Government 2025 - ???

[Remius]

Looking at the polling he is now on par with Andrew Scheer for popularity nationally, which didn't go well for the CPC back then. It is a lot of red flags that when the next election happens, if it leads to a liberal majority, Pierre would be done.

If they can be adult about it, the party needs new leadership. James Moore or someone similar would be my choice. My fear is that they would pick a Jivani. Leaving us with no real alternatives again.

 

[QV]

If the conservatives were smart, they would dump PP and have a leadership convention to pick a new leader. They'll never win with PP at the helm. They should've dumped him when he lost his seat in the last election and picked a new leader (instead of having a newly elected member resign is seat so that PP could run in a by-election). But that's just my opinion. Carney seems to be doing a decent job so far.

It will not matter who is at the CPC helm, they will get the same treatment from the media.

You guys keep thinking "if only we had a unicorn.." that is simply not reality. Politics is a war of information and the MSM is almost exclusively on one side.

 

[Remius]

It will not matter who is at the CPC helm, they will get the same treatment from the media.

Except last time it was the CPC treatment of the media that contributed to its failure at the polls.

You guys keep thinking "if only we had a unicorn.." that is simply not reality. Politics is a war of information and the MSM is almost exclusively on one side.

Strangely it worked for the LPC. They found their unicorn, a conservative one, and staved off disaster.

 

[dapaterson]

Looking at the polling he is now on par with Andrew Scheer for popularity nationally, which didn't go well for the CPC back then. It is a lot of red flags that when the next election happens, if it leads to a liberal majority, Pierre would be done.

Philosophically, I hate "one and done" for leaders, as it encourages bad organizational behaviour.

Thus the rapid dumping of Scheer and O'Toole runs against my thinking - neither was granted the time and space to grow. Scheer took the government from majority to minority as Leader of the Opposition; and O'Toole kept his party afloat despite record government giveaways. Both should have got a second chance.

Which makes it hard for me to agree that the current CPC leader should not be given a second election to prove himself. (Though losing his own seat should count against him).

 

[Deleted member 175000]

Which makes it hard for me to agree that the current CPC leader should not be given a second election to prove himself. (Though losing his own seat should count against him).

I would tend to agree with the sentiment- but I have trouble applying to it to a guy who has boasted about having not changed his mind / having had it all figured out since highschool, and then seemingly took a year to learn from the most epic choke job in Canadian political history.

 

[Remius]

Philosophically, I hate "one and done" for leaders, as it encourages bad organizational behaviour.

Thus the rapid dumping of Scheer and O'Toole runs against my thinking - neither was granted the time and space to grow. Scheer took the government from majority to minority as Leader of the Opposition; and O'Toole kept his party afloat despite record government giveaways. Both should have got a second chance.

Which makes it hard for me to agree that the current CPC leader should not be given a second election to prove himself. (Though losing his own seat should count against him).

I accept that argument. But only a second chance for a leader if gains can be made. Those gains have to also outweigh any losses.

 

[Nvlgzr]

If the conservatives were smart, they would dump PP and have a leadership convention to pick a new leader. They'll never win with PP at the helm. They should've dumped him when he lost his seat in the last election and picked a new leader (instead of having a newly elected member resign is seat so that PP could run in a by-election). But that's just my opinion. Carney seems to be doing a decent job so far.

The conservatives held a leadership convention in January and PP won at 87% of the vote.

 

[Deleted member 175000]

Strangely it worked for the LPC. The found their unicorn, a conservative one, and staved off disaster.

That poster is not entirely wrong. A CPC that represent his ideals is always going to be on its back foot against the Canadian media, not to mention the Canadian electorate.

 

[Czech_pivo]

If they can be adult about it, the party needs new leadership. James Moore or someone similar would be my choice. My fear is that they would pick a Jivani. Leaving us with no real alternatives again.

If they pick Jivani, those remaining PC members should just pick up their marbles, leave and re-constitute the PC party and leave the Maple Maga's on their own. If that leads to political wandering the desert for 40yrs so be it.

 

[MilEME09]

The conservatives held a leadership convention in January and PP won at 87% of the vote.

Yes however that wasnt a classic everyone's invited convention, it was more a $1000 a head fundraiser of party insiders. I would be very curious if you polled every card carrying member of the CPC what his actual approval is

 

[Czech_pivo]

Yes however that wasnt a classic everyone's invited convention, it was more a $1000 a head fundraiser of party insiders. I would be very curious if you polled every card carrying member of the CPC what his actual approval is

What he said.

 

[YZT580]

late night, well late night for us drop from the PM, investment agreement between US and Australia.

https://twitter.com/x/status/2029050532648612255

interesting how Carney's old company is coming up gangbusters with him as PM. First they bought into the Sask. mines when the market was going nowhere (good planning) and now they stand to earn half the profits less taxes on the sales to India and all without any help from Carney? Add that to their prefab construction business and one does begin to wonder.

 

[Retired AF Guy]

Noah is reporting that Carney is shuffling a bunch of his senior bureaucrats around.

Prime Minister Carney announces changes in the senior ranks of the public service

Press Release + Noah Note

www.truenorthstrategicreview.ca

 

[Seyek]

interesting how Carney's old company is coming up gangbusters with him as PM. First they bought into the Sask. mines when the market was going nowhere (good planning) and now they stand to earn half the profits less taxes on the sales to India and all without any help from Carney? Add that to their prefab construction business and one does begin to wonder.

Is there any actual evidence of malfeasance, or evidence of exceptional performance relative to any other company? 2 minute google search shows that Brookfield Corporation and Brookfield Asset Management combined would be the 3rd largest Canadian firm by market cap. They're in the top ten for assets under management in Canada, with broad portfolios. Any positive news and growth for Canada would benefit them, the same as every other major bank and asset manager.

But if you want to get real into the weeds, Brookfield Corporation is down 6.8% YTD and and Brookfield Asset Management is down a little more than 11%. I don't know how that squares with gangbusters. Please share actual evidence of corruption (are trade deals which the majority of Canadians have been asking for corruption because a major financial player may theoretically benefit like literally every major financial player?). Or try to back away from the cancer of tribalism in politics, which I'm convinced is 90% of the reason for his harshest critics on here hating on him. If he were blue they'd be singing his praises and we can all do better to be aware of that and try to be more objective.

EDIT: YTD was probably a poor choice since it's only the beginning of march. Brookfield Corporation is actually up over 7% over the last year, though BAM is down even more, 15% over the last year.

 

[The Bread Guy]

Even the Toronto Star couldn't ignore this one:

Susan Delacourt: This doesn’t sound like the Pierre Poilievre we’re used to

The Conservative leader says he'd rather support Prime Minister Mark Carney than go back to the polls, Susan Delacourt writes.

www.thestar.com

Archived link

Well, about that:

Question asked: was media coverage of the 2025 canadian election balanced and fair

AI generated response:

Based on reports and analysis surrounding the April 2025 Canadian federal election, media coverage was subject to significant criticism regarding fairness and balance, with many stakeholders and citizens expressing concern over the influence of bias, particularly in national broadcast media.
Key Findings on Media Coverage:

• Allegations of Bias against Public Broadcaster: The CBC faced sharp criticism for its election night coverage. Critics, including analysts, described the coverage as showing clear bias in favor of the Liberal Party and a distinct "distaste" for a Conservative victory, with some hosts appearing to celebrate the projected Liberal win.
• Perception of "Toxic" Coverage: A report from the Public Policy Forum suggested that the 2025 election was among the "most poorly covered" in modern Canadian history, highlighting a focus on national leaders over local issues and candidates, amid a, at times, "toxic" media environment.
• Media Subsidy Issues: The reliance of many media outlets on government subsidies was a point of contention, leading to debate about whether subsidized media can maintain true independence and objectivity.
• Debate Format and Moderation: In contrast to the perceived bias in daily coverage, the Leaders' Debates Commission received positive feedback for the 2025 debates. They were described as substantive, well-organized, and fair, with a single-moderator model that was widely praised.
• Misinformation Concerns: A large majority of Canadians (over 75%) felt that misinformation impacted the 2025 election, with many believing it influenced the results.
  Rideau Hall Foundation +5

While formal, structured debates were viewed as fair, the overall editorial coverage, particularly during the final, critical days of the campaign, was heavily scrutinized for favoring the incumbent Liberal government.

Thanks for sharing that - pretty damned detailed. Just like with search engines, though, answers depend on who you ask. Same question to another AI gives this response (more details in link)...

... The bottom line: Traditional news outlets largely did their jobs, but the structural landscape around them had deteriorated badly — gutted local newsrooms, social media news bans, and AI-fuelled misinformation created an environment where many Canadians simply weren't well-served, regardless of whether individual outlets were trying to be fair. The problem in 2025 was less about partisan slant in newsrooms and more about the collapse of the information infrastructure Canadians rely on to make informed choices.

... and this one (also more details in link) ...

... Overall assessment​

• Expert assessments of the 2025 election information environment conclude that while the formal electoral process remained intact and traditional media mostly adhered to professional norms, the broader system was shaped by misinformation, platform disruptions, partisan influencers, and weakened local news, all of which undermined the conditions for consistently fair and balanced coverage.
• In practical terms, whether an individual voter experienced the campaign as “fairly covered” depended heavily on where they lived and which platforms and sources they relied on. Voters relying on national TV and print likely saw more balance; those relying on major social platforms or in local news deserts were much more exposed to skewed or low‑quality information.

... and one more from Elon's baby ...

... Claims of Bias in Traditional MediaCritiques of imbalance often centered on major outlets, with evidence pointing to partisan leanings in both directions:

• Public Broadcaster (CBC/Radio-Canada) Accusations of Liberal Bias: A computational analysis by a Regina-based computer scientist examined 240 CBC articles and found significant tonal disparities. Liberal leader Mark Carney received 85 positively biased articles versus 27 negative (a 3.15:1 ratio), while Conservative leader Pierre Poilievre faced 78 negative versus 17 positive (4.5:1 ratio).
  
  @cbcwatcher
  The CBC ombudsman later acknowledged a record number of complaints about coverage during leaders' debates, including claims of misinformation.
  
  @RebelNews_CA
  Critics, including some X users, argued this reflected systemic favoritism tied to government funding (over $2 billion annually), with more focus on U.S. politics than domestic issues like military spending or economic stagnation.
  
  
  Postmedia and Rebel News outlets amplified these views, portraying CBC as a Liberal "mouthpiece."
  
  raybwilliams.medium.com
• Private Media (Postmedia, Others) Accusations of Conservative Bias: Conversely, outlets like Postmedia—Canada's largest newspaper chain—faced criticism for consistent Conservative endorsements since 2010 and editorial directions favoring right-wing narratives.
  
  raybwilliams.medium.com
  An opinion piece in Cult MTL argued that mainstream media exhibited a "Conservative bias," failing to challenge Poilievre's claims during the campaign, effectively rooting for his victory despite his loss.
  
  @cultmtl
  Rebel News was singled out for injecting partisan talking points into debates, undermining journalistic norms, with leaders like Carney refusing to recognize it as legitimate.
  
  raybwilliams.medium.com

These dueling narratives underscore a polarized landscape, where funding sources (government subsidies for public media, foreign ownership in private chains) fueled distrust. A broader essay on Canada's media crisis described it as an "existential" threat, with U.S.-owned entities like Postmedia amplifying homegrown misinformation amid threats of CBC defunding. raybwilliams.medium.com ...

... so one's mileage can vary.

 

[The Bread Guy]

He was always there. Just filtered through media.

... A CPC that represent his ideals is always going to be on its back foot against the Canadian media, not to mention the Canadian electorate.

Was it the same media that was filtering during that bit (approximately September 2022 through around March 2025) where Team Blue was way ahead in the polls, too?

(source)

 

[Jarnhamar]

late night, well late night for us drop from the PM, investment agreement between US and Australia.

https://twitter.com/x/status/2029050532648612255

That's a solid pinky promise.

 

[MilEME09]

That's a solid pinky promise.

it will definitely help with investor confidence, if even half of these agreements we have signed bare fruit this year, the economy will be in good shape

 

[YZT580]

Is there any actual evidence of malfeasance, or evidence of exceptional performance relative to any other company? 2 minute google search shows that Brookfield Corporation and Brookfield Asset Management combined would be the 3rd largest Canadian firm by market cap. They're in the top ten for assets under management in Canada, with broad portfolios. Any positive news and growth for Canada would benefit them, the same as every other major bank and asset manager.

But if you want to get real into the weeds, Brookfield Corporation is down 6.8% YTD and and Brookfield Asset Management is down a little more than 11%. I don't know how that squares with gangbusters. Please share actual evidence of corruption (are trade deals which the majority of Canadians have been asking for corruption because a major financial player may theoretically benefit like literally every major financial player?). Or try to back away from the cancer of tribalism in politics, which I'm convinced is 90% of the reason for his harshest critics on here hating on him. If he were blue they'd be singing his praises and we can all do better to be aware of that and try to be more objective.

EDIT: YTD was probably a poor choice since it's only the beginning of march. Brookfield Corporation is actually up over 7% over the last year, though BAM is down even more, 15% over the last year.

of course there is no evidence of malfeasance. I wouldn't expect there to be apparent evidence even if there was some skullduggery. Both Brookfield and Carney have been around far too long to get caught up in that kind of scandal. The fact that Brookfield has numerous lobbyists working Ottawa who have been in direct contact with Carney on several occasions is just smoke, the result of their being old business mates wanting to meet over a social drink, and events are pure coincidence if they work in Brookfield's favour. But if all of the liberal (do nothing wrong) group can spend their time castigating Pierre when the very leader they are fawning over is drawing heavily from the conservative platform and rising in the polls as a direct result then I am certainly entitled to create my own rumours regarding the lack of moral turpitude evidenced (to my mind which is all that counts) by his actions: in particular with reference China and news where Brookfield's name just happens (strictly coincidental I am sure) to come up. As far as hating the man, consider this: he is a liberal and was chosen by the Laurentian Elite to be the new leader. That group has never changed.

 

[Jarnhamar]

it will definitely help with investor confidence, if even half of these agreements we have signed bare fruit this year, the economy will be in good shape

My understanding is even when those agreements are signed, which seems to be the exception rather than the norm, it's just symbolic. Nothing about them is legally binding in any sence.