simply put: everyone pays 20% (as a for instance) of their household gross salary. There are no deductions and no credits except for the number of family members . Lets assume you need 20,000 after taxes as a single person to get by reasonably well; no excessive toys but you are able the rent, a vacation, a car, that type of thing. Therefore you would need an income of 24,000 before your tax level would kick in. If you earned 28,000 then you would pay $5600. Now you get married and have two children. To get by comfortably that would require an income of say $40000. So that would be the base at which you start paying 20%. A person earning $200,000 with a family of 4 would pay 20% of 160,000. Its fair, its simple and the rich actually don't mind it much. Ireland has had that system for years and for a while there tax rate was such that families like The Weston's moved there because it was advantageous compared to what they were paying in Canada.
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Noooooooooot a good look on the coach here ....
Carney won’t say whether Michael Ma will face consequences for China forced labour comments
Prime Minister Mark Carney says Liberal MP Michael Ma has apologized for comments he made last week seemingly questioning the issue of forced labour in China, and would not say whether he will face consequences.www.cp24.com
Carney attends fundraiser co-hosted by MP who cast doubt on Chinese human rights abuses
PM says Michael Ma apologized, Canada has strong measures to stop goods made with forced labour from entering the countrywww.theglobeandmail.com
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Carney says Liberal MP Michael Ma remains in caucus after comments on China’s forced labour
Prime Minister Mark Carney said Liberal MP Michael Ma continues to be part of his party’s caucus.nationalpost.com
Carney’s stance seems clear to me.
I guess it's a bit of a challenging dilemma of deciding which dicks to step on and how hard, in the middle of a trade war.
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I’m assuming that the 20% is just for the Federal level. What about the Provincial level?
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Similar to the challenging dilemma when it came to Paul Chiang.
I'd say that one was markedly less challenging.
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Yes, they include CAF. Also US numbers don't include anyone in heathcare, which is a pretty large employer across Canada, particularly with our current demographics. Apparently the UK is around 18%, with most of the OECD in the low 20s and the outliers in the Scandi countries at about 30%.
If the GoC cuts 40k public servants, but adds on 60k CAF members, that's still a net growth, and will also need more DND public servants/crown corps (like DCC) and supporting depts (like PSPC) to support all that new equipment, infra and contracts. DRDC is also growing, which is good as we've lost a lot of internal expertise in some pretty core things, where we used to be really innovative compared to our allies.
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I went to grade school with a brother/sister duo who's dad did precisely that...
He would start companies, some of which were exactly along those same lines.
Revolutionary. Exclusively Pattented. The Next Generation of <Insert Important Sounding Industry Here>. The Solution to This Big Problem. Etc
He would nurture that baby from idea, to registered business, thru all kinds of 'market studies' and 'scientific studies & dialogue', then all the way thru the IPO process...
And he would MAKE ABSOLUTELY BANK doing this. Filthy f**king rich.
(New Lamborghini's, the little cell phone ear attachment bluetooth thing BEFORE they were popular, etc etc. Dressed kinda like of a Hindu party guy was also a Mexican cartel leader, and attending a formal business meeting...if that makes any sense?)
And never, for one moment, did I ever get the impression that he wasn't a total flippin' slimeball that could be trusted to even water flowers.
Those shares never seemed to be worth very much, and those big changes to the way the world was supposed to work never really materialized.
(Similar to that scam during the 2003 Iraq War, re buying Iraqi dinars & their monetary system reset)
And as we grew up, I got the impression he might have a lot of enemies & the police might have at least been 'aware' of him if he wasn't a full sized raging contact on their radar already
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Random Story...
I remember having a conversation with him once at a dinner party. I think it was like an Easter dinner or a Thanksgiving dinner, and there were a bunch of families all having dinner together...and I'm pretty sure it was at his house.
I think I was like 10yo or 12yo.
Anyway he tried to explain to me that in 10 to 20 years time, we would be able to pay for things by sending money through the air...
It would be pretty rudimentary at first. But that as time went on the technology would evolve, and the market would then create companies that would 'add to it' and 'make it accessible to anyone who wanted to use it'
And we would have these devices that we could talk to anybody else in the world on, in real time, and even talk face to face with them in real time just using these devices.
We would be able to send them a message that they could read and reply to, if you didn't need to actually 'talk' talk...
And using these same devices we would pay for things, buy things, and could send money to other people. It would have a camera for people to take pictures on.
And then said something like "and all of the memory of all of these pictures, and everything, would just be stored like in the air..." and I remember him shrugging as he said it, like so casually and like it was no big deal
When we had this conversation, e-mail hadn't even been invented yet. I thought he had kinda lost it.
My 10yo self thought it sounded like some buuullllllsssshhhhiiiitttt. It sounded like a cool fantasy bro, but should you be this drunk if you're the host of this dinner??
The idea of a PC in every home hadn't even crossed my lexicon yet. Even in the newest classrooms being built, we had 1 PC per every 2 classrooms
So now, as an adult in 2026, I genuinely want to know so badly how in the f-ing world he predicted so damn accurately the evolution of everyday communication/commerce technology!???
Like HOW??
I'm 43yo now. This conversation happened when I was around 10 years old. I couldn't have been older than 13 at the oldest.
In hindsight it actually just blows my mind.
Especially considering I think he died fairly young. (I remember running into the kids I went to school with at a funeral for our classmate about 20 years ago, and when I asked them how their mom and dad were doing they had said he had recently passed away)
Which makes his predictions even more mind blowing to me.
(Daily random story is now finished. Sorry folks, I didn't see it coming either.)
That actually makes so much more sense...
I'm sure there must be a downside to that type of system, but on the surface it seems pretty fair & logical
the 20% was just an example by the way. As for the provinces, if their taxes are based on the federal then their take should be a portion of the 20%.
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Conservatives and anti-Carney crowd in general should realize the gotchya moments and attempts to put him on the spot are wasted effort. Adults in the room are quite willing to overlook that ethics stuff.
It's clear MA was trying to be a Beijing attack dog - no one cares all that much.
Lots of picking battles, lots of cost benefit analysis to be done… At that level few principles come without consequences, and in this particular instance there’s a nexus to a major trading partner, and keeping food on the table for a lot of Canadians while we try to get stuff squared away with the neighbours.
Not excusing anything or trying to justify it. I’m just happy I don’t have to work at that level and make those choices.
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You're totally right there's always a cost benefit calculation in government, especially with a major player and trading partner like China. I personally don't see foreign interference as a policy trade-off. It directly affects our democratic integrity. But that's also me being naive about the real world and bigger picture.
Michael Ma's aggressive questioning toward Margaret McCuaig-Johnston was a clear nod and attempt to curry favour with Beijin. Carney could have shown more courage and resolve. Instead he looked at his feet and shrugged his shoulders. Understandable, still disappointing. I just hope we can resist turning into the Centauri Republic.
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That Kilkenny didn't have a chance...
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It's telling when we choose to make statements about other countries behavior and when we don't.
Israel's new death penalty 'systematically targets Palestinians': Minister Anand
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A bit of a head scratcher. This would service a massive chunk of the countries population (~7,777,205 Canadians).
This after all the banging he's done about getting projects started.
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This after all the banging he's done about getting projects started.
Poilievre calls for cancellation of multibillion-dollar high-speed rail project
Conservative Leader Pierre Poilievre is calling on the federal government to cancel a proposed high-speed rail line between Toronto and Quebec City.
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I see the early Via train enroute from Montreal to Toronto pretty much every morning. Tons of empty seats in each car because it's reliably late. Maybe fix this and boost ridership before dropping billions on a new line.A bit of a head scratcher. This would service a massive chunk of the countries population (~7,777,205 Canadians).
This after all the banging he's done about getting projects started.
Poilievre calls for cancellation of multibillion-dollar high-speed rail project
Conservative Leader Pierre Poilievre is calling on the federal government to cancel a proposed high-speed rail line between Toronto and Quebec City.
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Moving from shared to dedicated lines, with half the travel time would be a game changer.
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There's a huge group of folks opposed to the project. Lots of expropriated land is required. Construction isn't even supposed to start by the end of the decade. How much are tickets going to cost if the rail project needs $90B CAD before the overruns start???
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