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Liberal (Minority/Majority) Government 2025 - ???

Cutting expenses does nothing in dealing with rising food costs due to higher fuel/fertilizer/input costs.
Cutting HST/GST does virtually nothing either.

There is really nothing that can be effectively done. We are not the only country in the world facing this issue - virtually ever single free market country is in the same boat.

Not even sure if this would be effective - but creating a national strategy, as they did in both WW1 and WW2, to reduce food imports might move the needle in terms of vegetables/fruits imports over the summer/fall months. Provide tax deductions or tax credits for the costs of growing your own veggies and such. Open up more municipal lands for allotments and using brown fields/lands that are awaiting development to be used to grow more veggies and such. If people can start to grow more of what they eat, it will make them healthier by being outside more, growing veggies chemically free, getting to know more of their neighbours and reducing their food bills for a 4-5 months of the year. Give them tax incentives or tax credits in the materials they need, the costs they incur and maybe a tax donation credit if they are able to donate some of the food they grow or give to elderly neighbours who can't grow their own.

When I lived in the Czech Republic in mid 90's, I lived in a suburb of Prague where the majority of the people lived in low rise apartments. Pretty much all of those folks had their own 'allotments' or 'zahradni domek', which basically was a very small 'bunkie' and some land that they used pretty much every single inch of for growing their own veggies and such. It was and still is, very very common in most of central/eastern Europe and in a number of western European countries. I wanted to have my own 'piece of land' when I lived there because it was something that I had always did when I was a kid growing up, helping out with the family garden, and, I was drinking and chasing girls way to much and I was looking for something to distract me. I went to the local Catholic Church with one of my co-workers who help interpret for me and I was allowed to use a small piece of land that had been unused for years. My Dad mailed over my seeds in the winter and by late March I had started to turn over the soil and plant. I grow alot of things that the Czechs didn't or varieties they had never seen (only 4yrs after Communism). It got me outside, meeting more of the locals and developing relationships with them, reduced my drinking and womanizing and provided me with alot more veggies options than what I had in the local grocery store.

Examples:

Allotment gardening in the Czech Republic plays a significant role in food self-provisioning, with roughly 38% of the population growing their own fruits or vegetables. While the majority of this food is grown in gardens attached to residential houses, allotments (or "garden colonies") are a crucial component of urban agriculture, particularly in large cities like Ostrava and Brno

Allotment gardens in Poland—known as rodzinne ogrody działkowe (ROD)—are a significant source of locally grown food, with over 900,000 plots covering approximately 40,000 hectares. While traditionally used for self-sufficiency, modern plots often serve a hybrid function, balancing food production with recreation

Dacha gardens (allotments) in Russia play a massive role in the country’s food supply, with recent studies and historical data showing that these small, mostly household-operated plots produce roughly 40% to over 50% of Russia's total agricultural output by value. Despite using only about 3% to 6% of the country's total agricultural land, these plots are responsible for a majority of key food items produced in Russia

There is ALOT of unused or underused land across Canada that could be used for this purpose. Here is my city of Burlington its in place on a very very small scale and the waiting time of a piece of land is long.


  • Due to high demand, garden plot permits are for one season. All plots must be entirely cleared at the end of the season.
  • All applicants will have to submit their lottery registration every year. There will be no wait-list or carry over to the next year.
  • The garden season begins May 1 and ends October 31.

Canada has turned itself into a nanny/welfare state.

I can guarantee you Canadians will turn to their political leaders for help and solutions in this.

We literally can't get people to take their own physical fitness and health seriously and you think a modern day victory garden will work. My friend this isn't going to end well. And the party in power will pay the butchers bill if they cant be seen to be doing something.

This is the door the NDP can drive their bus through. Unbridled social spending.

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It's not sexy- but what I'd love to see is a commitment to not spend the O&G tax windfall, to stick to the budget and apply any excess revenues to reducing this year's deficit
 
Canada has turned itself into a nanny/welfare state.

I can guarantee you Canadians will turn to their political leaders for help and solutions in this.

We literally can get people to be take their own physical fitness and health seriously and you think a modern day victory garden will work. My friend this isn't going to end well. And the party in power will pay the butchers bill if they cant be seen to be doing something.

While I don't disagree with you overall, I'm not willing to throw in the towel, shrug my shoulders and walk away.

I know that you know that there is no 'one size fits all' solution to this problem or any problem, but that doesn't mean that solutions that fit part of the problem shouldn't be found or implemented. I had forgotten the term 'victory gardens' for what I was describing, but if these 'Victory Gardens' implemented brought 5, 10, 15% of the population out of their basements/family rooms and growing veggies for 4 months of the year that had a net overall reduction of 5% or 7% in the amount of veggies/fruits that we import from June-Oct would that be a bad thing? If it resulted in lower blood pressure, weight loss and more sense of community belonging among those 5 or 10 or 15% of the population, would that be a 'success' or a 'failure?'

I counted up how many community garden plots my city of Burlington has available every year, its around 225. These are only available for 1yr and then you give it up and have to go back into the lottery system for the following year to see if you are lucky enough to get a plot next season. As a result there is no 'pride of ownership', no real 'connection' to the land because one year you have it and next year you don't. I have little doubt that it Burlington tripled the number available to 600 plots a year they'd all be gone. This program needs to be scaled up to them have 2,000 plots available, with multi-year leases available. The demand is there and they need to incentivize it even more.

We will always have those among us that believe in the Welfare State (that is why the NDP exist in its current form - I know a cheap shot, but am I really wrong?), so we just have to accept this fact and to address the needs of those who are willing to 'change', to 'help', to 'stand on their own two feet', with some help and direction.
 
We can’t afford to cut taxes. If anything we should be starting to heavily cut expenses and/or increase taxes.

Just cutting taxes right now would be a childish reaction. There is still bills to pay and we aren’t even remotely close to breaking even.

Where do you think we should increase taxes?
 
While I don't disagree with you overall, I'm not willing to throw in the towel, shrug my shoulders and walk away.

I know that you know that there is no 'one size fits all' solution to this problem or any problem, but that doesn't mean that solutions that fit part of the problem shouldn't be found or implemented. I had forgotten the term 'victory gardens' for what I was describing, but if these 'Victory Gardens' implemented brought 5, 10, 15% of the population out of their basements/family rooms and growing veggies for 4 months of the year that had a net overall reduction of 5% or 7% in the amount of veggies/fruits that we import from June-Oct would that be a bad thing? If it resulted in lower blood pressure, weight loss and more sense of community belonging among those 5 or 10 or 15% of the population, would that be a 'success' or a 'failure?'

I counted up how many community garden plots my city of Burlington has available every year, its around 225. These are only available for 1yr and then you give it up and have to go back into the lottery system for the following year to see if you are lucky enough to get a plot next season. As a result there is no 'pride of ownership', no real 'connection' to the land because one year you have it and next year you don't. I have little doubt that it Burlington tripled the number available to 600 plots a year they'd all be gone. This program needs to be scaled up to them have 2,000 plots available, with multi-year leases available. The demand is there and they need to incentivize it even more.

We will always have those among us that believe in the Welfare State (that is why the NDP exist in its current form - I know a cheap shot, but am I really wrong?), so we just have to accept this fact and to address the needs of those who are willing to 'change', to 'help', to 'stand on their own two feet', with some help and direction.

Canadians will expect our Gov to do something about this, and victory gardens isn't the solution.

Our bloated and obese Gov is and will be exposed. Cuts to taxes and spending will be expected. Thankfully I think defence will finally be accepted and necessary spend. The cuts really need to be made in social programs, health care, and the arts.
 
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Where do you think we should increase taxes?
No where, unless we go down the path of taxing 'unhealthy' food - food that has no nutrition value and is known to cause health issues. Soft drinks, energy drinks, highly processed foods, corn syrup, saturated fats, etc. Start taxing them more, but at the same time eliminate taxes on fruits/veggies.

Cause and effect - massive increase in taxes on cigarettes has directly led to a corresponding decrease in cancers linked to smoking. Overall health costs to treat these cancers have fallen, life expectancy ticked upwards and people overall are happy. For those who want to continue to smoke, have at it, you can do so.

Do the same with unhealthy foods.
 
Where do you think we should increase taxes?
I am not a fan of increasing taxes. The only reason I would support it is to make Canadians act like adults and make hard decisions instead of just racking up debt with the mentality that someone else will deal with it.

To start if I had to I would likely target the capital gains exemption on private residences. I would make it so any profit above the average interest rate since purchase is taxed.

This would both cool the housing market and bring in more tax money to help pay down the debt.

The main people effected by this would be those with means not those without.
 
Canadians will expect our Gov to do something about this, and victory gardens isn't the solution.

Our bloated and obese Gov is and will be exposed. Cuts to taxes and spend will be expected. Thankfully I think defence will finally be accepted and necessary spend. The cuts really need to be made in social programs, health care, and the arts.
You are missing the point completely.

A step forward on reducing our veggie/fruit imports over the summer/fall months and keeping more money in the pockets of Canadians by reducing their food costs is just 1 part of the solution. I never said it was 'the solution'.

Just your like thoughts of reducing Gov't bloat and spend is not 'the solution', it can be 1 part of the solution. There is no magic bullet for our current situation.

We need a multi-layered solution - and some parts of the solution will fail and some will succeed.
 
You are missing the point completely.

A step forward on reducing our veggie/fruit imports over the summer/fall months and keeping more money in the pockets of Canadians by reducing their food costs is just 1 part of the solution. I never said it was 'the solution'.

Just your like thoughts of reducing Gov't bloat and spend is not 'the solution', it can be 1 part of the solution. There is no magic bullet for our current situation.

We need a multi-layered solution - and some parts of the solution will fail and some will succeed.

The problem is you are looking at this from a business and logical point of view. The average Canadian voter is not that.

The average Canadian voter will want more of their hard earned money in their own pocket and less in the Gov coffers. If they dont see that it will be hell to pay.

And I agree with your timeline. I have actually heard the word famine thrown around when talking about the end of this summer.
 
The average Canadian voter will want more of their hard earned money in their own pocket and less in the Gov coffers. If they dont see that it will be hell to pay.
I would prefer not to be bribed with my own money to stop me from having a temper tantrum.
 
Has anyone brought up the issue about the 'helpers' not helping that much?

How the West’s ‘Sore Losers’ Hurt Canada, and Their Cause​


Rather than contributing to Poilievre’s “Canada First” vision, leaders like Alberta’s Danielle Smith and former Reform leader Preston Manning are pursuing regional defiance that threatens not only federal Conservative prospects but also the unity of the country itself.

Some conservative leaders in the West are refusing to do the hard work of building bridges across provinces. Instead, they are undermining national institutions, elevating regional grievances and offering what we might call performative disengagement. The tactic may win headlines and satisfy the base, but it weakens the broader conservative project at a critical moment in our country’s history.

and BC's flat out no pipeline no tanker attitude contributes to building bridges how? I missed that part of the argument.
 
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