Liberal (Minority/Majority) Government 2025 - ???

[MilEME09]

WTF is the “exit tax”?

An IT billionaire floated the idea of charging educated individuals 500k if they wanted to emigrate out of canada. Stupidest idea ever that wouldn't even survive a charter challange

 

[brihard]

WTF is the “exit tax”?

One of those oddball policy proposals we see at party conventions, where delegates can basically table anything they want, some partisans and some media may a big deal of it, and it gets voted down and/or utterly ignored by the party’s caucus is when legislating. It’s a nothingburger.

 

[ArmyRick]

Yes and?

MORE viewers, more exposure, domestic and international. Carney is a politician and by default must always keep promoting his brand.

 

[Altair]

MORE viewers, more exposure, domestic and international. Carney is a politician and by default must always keep promoting his brand.

I think his brand is no nonsense get to work.

He doesn't really need a podcast for that.

And he's one of the most popular PMs we've seen in a long time.

Imagine having a positive approval rating in every province. A liberal...positive approval in Alberta. Alberta!

Although it's telling that 60 odd percent of conservatives are not happy with him. Just cannot please some people.

 

[Jarnhamar]

And he's one of the most popular PMs we've seen in a long time.

How quickly you forget Trudeau Mania. Carney is only 3% higher than peak Trudeau popularity.

Imagine having a positive approval rating in every province. A liberal...positive approval in Alberta. Alberta!

Although it's telling that 60 odd percent of conservatives are not happy with him. Just cannot please some people.

Yup. Some people will oppose any leader regardless of performance, that one goes both ways.

 

[ArmyRick]

I think his brand is no nonsense get to work.

He doesn't really need a podcast for that.

And he's one of the most popular PMs we've seen in a long time.

Imagine having a positive approval rating in every province. A liberal...positive approval in Alberta. Alberta!

Although it's telling that 60 odd percent of conservatives are not happy with him. Just cannot please some people.

You realize nothing last forever? Like I said last night, enjoy the political buzz for now, I guarantee there is a hangover to come.

And stop pretending your non-partisan, your very pro Liberal, come out and admit it.

 

[ArmyRick]

Although it's telling that 60 odd percent of conservatives are not happy with him.

Big surprise? Thats usually what happens in politics. When one party is in power, the other is usually unhappy or the least unsatisfied

Need another lesson in basic politics?

 

[PPCLI Guy]

MORE viewers, more exposure, domestic and international. Carney, like all politicians is a politician and by default must always keep promoting his brand.

FTFY.

Consider it a free "lesson in basic politics".

 

[Halifax Tar]

These conventions are akin to a General Mess Meeting, without jalapeño poppers afterward.

Just because you table it doesn't mean it will be adopted or implemented l.

You guys get jalapeno poppers ?

 

[dapaterson]

You guys get jalapeno poppers ?

The poppers get put out while the meeting is still ongoing, so the folks who show up late and skip the meeting eat them all.

 

[Jarnhamar]

Big surprise? Thats usually what happens in politics. When one party is in power, the other is usually unhappy or the least unsatisfied

Need another lesson in basic politics?

Your [collectively, our] posts are better when we leave out lines like this.

 

[The Bread Guy]

He's going to spend the time Carney is in office calling out unethical and shady behaviour. Would you rather see a meek opposition leader who doesn't call that stuff out? Poilievre may not be able to do anything about it but at least Canadians will be informed and can't act like they didn't know.

If he could walk that way, while sincerely chewing the “happy to help & support government come up with solutions” gum, I think that would be a reasonable mix of poke & help that could help him shed some of the harder-held “just a prick” aura. Maybe I’m naive, though.

 

[The Bread Guy]

A security clearance isn’t a requirement to lead an opposition party. Poilievre not obtaining it is a political choice, not a security failure. He’s prioritizing his role in public accountability and opposition work over participating in a classified briefing system that comes with restrictions on what he can say publicly. Not getting the clearance allows him to be transparent about what he knows.

But not transparent about problems re: any serving Team Blue MPs. If Ma was such a China pawn as some allege, how long was he one in the Blue benches?

 

[Jarnhamar]

If he could walk that way, while sincerely chewing the “happy to help & support government come up with solutions” gum, I think that would be a reasonable mix of poke & help that could help him shed some of the harder-held “just a prick” aura. Maybe I’m naive, though.

No, I think you're quite right. He reminds me of prick bosses I've had that were blunt, and great at their job. Similarly I've had bosses that were all charm and had me walking away convinced of their grandeur but they turned out shallow, self-absorbed, and just worried about themselves (i.e Trudeau).

Maybe Canadians feel a happy charismatic leader represents them on the world stage and want to be associated with that perceived persona.

 

[Czech_pivo]

No, I think you're quite right. He reminds me of prick bosses I've had that were blunt, and great at their job. Similarly I've had bosses that were all charm and had me walking away convinced of their grandeur but they turned out shallow, self-absorbed, and just worried about themselves (i.e Trudeau).

Maybe Canadians feel a happy charismatic leader represents them on the world stage and want to be associated with that perceived persona.

What, the persona of someone who has a PhD from one of the worlds most respected universities and was also the Governor of both the Banks of Canada and England?

 

[Jarnhamar]

What, the persona of someone who has a PhD from one of the worlds most respected universities and was also the Governor of both the Banks of Canada and England?

That’s an appeal to authority rather than an argument about the persona itself. Credential signaling or halo effect if you prefer. But yes I can see Canadians using that as a reason for it.

 

[Navy_Pete]

You guys get jalapeno poppers ?

The key is to vote it into your mess rules as part of an GM, and approve the cost for it.

 

[Navy_Pete]

Members of Parliament enjoy immense privilege to speak openly in the context of their Parliamentary duties. Any MP, entrusted with classified information, would be able to disclose same in Parliametary business without fear of prosecution under FISOIA. They would likely lose subsequent access, but the concept of a FISOIA ‘gag’ on utterances made in the course of parliamentary duties simply isn’t true.

*There’s currently a very narrow carve out to that for members of the National Security and Intelligence Committee of Parliamentarians who receive classified information in the course of their NSICOP duties. There’s a Supreme Court decision pending imminently on how that squares with Parliamentary privilege.

Sure but even outside of Parliament, there is nothing that stops him speaking about a topic he got a briefing on, and fully complying with FISOIA, as long as he sticks to what's in the public domain.

Maybe the Parliamentary briefings are different, but pretty much all the ones I've seen at just the confidential and secret level always spelled out what part was actually classified.

He absolutely could have gotten a briefing on foreign interference etc, and stilled talked about it in general, or taken action if necessary, as long as he didn't disclose anything. It was a fundamentally stupid arguement, and essentially a complete fabrication by someone that should know better after spending their entire career as an MP.

 

[PPCLI Guy]

Not getting the clearance allows him to be transparent about what he knows.

....and deprives him of the insights he could garner from a more nuanced understanding of the context and background. In short, he wants to -charitably - be able to assess and explain the situation to his audience using no more information than that available to all. Less charitably, be as uninformed as the people he wants to represent.

 

[RangerRay]

A security clearance isn’t a requirement to lead an opposition party. Poilievre not obtaining it is a political choice, not a security failure. He’s prioritizing his role in public accountability and opposition work over participating in a classified briefing system that comes with restrictions on what he can say publicly. Not getting the clearance allows him to be transparent about what he knows.

....and deprives him of the insights he could garner from a more nuanced understanding of the context and background. In short, he wants to -charitably - be able to assess and explain the situation to his audience using no more information than that available to all. Less charitably, be as uninformed as the people he wants to represent.

Not to mention it allows him to remain ignorant of Beijing's sympathizers in his caucus. They are not as plentiful as in the LPC caucus, but they are there.