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Many governments have tried that before, especially in the IT/Digital space, and it didn't work out very well.
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Many governments have tried that before, especially in the IT/Digital space, and it didn't work out very well.
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Some is tied to acquisition - to bring on new capabilities.
Some is tied to sustainment - so a Halifax Class refit at a shipyard, or the "power by the hour" contracts to Boeing to keep the Chinooks flying.
Is it worth reviewing? Definitely. Is it a terrible thing? Not at all.
Some is tied to sustainment - so a Halifax Class refit at a shipyard, or the "power by the hour" contracts to Boeing to keep the Chinooks flying.
Is it worth reviewing? Definitely. Is it a terrible thing? Not at all.
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Would that $5b calculation be a bit misleading? It assumes every international student actually attends school, pays $35,000 annually and contributes that entire amount to the Canadian economy.
It ignores students who never show up, fraudulent applications, diploma mills selling poor quality education, and the growing number of international students relying on Canadian food banks. It also ignores that tuition, rent and groceries go to different businesses, not directly to colleges, and that some money is sent overseas.
Immigration isn't a good revenue strategy IMO.
It seems like Carney pulled a bait and switch. We're gling to be right back to where we were 2 years ago.
LILLEY: Carney says immigration is down — his own numbers tell different story
After admitting the system had spun out of control, Ottawa is now planning immigration levels that rival the highest on record. Read on.
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Only the Liberals could be involved in negotiations for months, know exactly what's happening, then act shocked when the deal goes through. Political theatre at its finest.
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Roshel, Stellantis met with PMO, Joly’s office in lead up to Brampton assembly plant deal
Industry Minister Melanie Joly’s most senior staff and a top aide in Prime Minister Mark Carney’s Office met with armoured vehicle maker Roshel in advance of its announced purchase of the Stellantis Brampton assembly plant.
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Only the Liberals could be involved in negotiations for months, know exactly what's happening, then act shocked when the deal goes through. Political theatre at its finest.
Roshel, Stellantis met with PMO, Joly’s office in lead up to Brampton assembly plant deal
Industry Minister Melanie Joly’s most senior staff and a top aide in Prime Minister Mark Carney’s Office met with armoured vehicle maker Roshel in advance of its announced purchase of the Stellantis Brampton assembly plant.
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And CEO Lourenco Goncalves blinks. Today was the deadline to respond to Ottawa's letter.
I wonder what could have possibly caused this.
I hope the feds still force them to divest regardless, this doesn't change what he admitted publicly.
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I wonder what could have possibly caused this.
I hope the feds still force them to divest regardless, this doesn't change what he admitted publicly.
Stelco recalling laid-off workers in Hamilton, citing sufficient demand for its steel
Parent Cleveland-Cliffs laid off 175 employees in September, igniting a fight with Ottawa
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His lawyers probably were screaming at their TVsAnd CEO Lourenco Goncalves blinks. Today was the deadline to respond to Ottawa's letter.
I wonder what could have possibly caused this.
I hope the feds still force them to divest regardless, this doesn't change what he admitted publicly.
ArchiveStelco recalling laid-off workers in Hamilton, citing sufficient demand for its steel
Parent Cleveland-Cliffs laid off 175 employees in September, igniting a fight with Ottawa
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$5billion being promised to the steel industry and $9billion to automotive industry is my guess.I wonder what could have possibly caused this.
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Or the fact he made public statements about his plan to destroy a company he bought, to monopolize the market in NA... but sure, we can just blame the LPC.
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With 103 screens already in place you would think Carney's team would have put one in place before his friend's company got awarded a $2.3b contract.
www.thestar.com
Mark Carney invokes conflict screen after company run by friend got $2.3B contract
Prime Minister Mark Carney will create a formal conflict of interest 'screen' because of his friendship with the head of Telesat, the Star has learned.
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or he heard the offer of another few billion dollars and decided he could handle the tariffs for a bit whilst collecting on the bailout
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Actually yes. Hell, even CBC called out Carney and Joly lately for the Stellantis plant fiasco.
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You do realize stelco has asked the Canadian government to stop allowing cheap Chinese steel into our markets?
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I've asked Rebecca Ferguson to stop hitting on me... Doesn't mean she's actually doing it.
The guy said what he said, it's public record now. You can try to defend his position because you hate the LPC all you want.
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I am not out to defend or attack stelco. Yes, I criticize the LPC heavily because at this point, they deserve it and have earned it. Keep carrying their water.
End results, we keep losing company after company leaving us and most of them heading south or shutting down altogether.
And if you think any of these produce nothing globe trotting meetings that Carney engages in will produce anything worth a damn, your believing in something that is not going to happen. Or produce minimal results. And lets be honest, relying even more on China is going to further ostracize us from our allies and further weaken our economy.
To add insult to injury, the LPC shuts down every damn committee in parliament they can as soon as the questions become uncomfortable or move it "In Camera (In chambers) for secrecy. So we never do get the story or excuse of the day, we are just being ignored altogether.
While we are at it, Carney handling of the press in Ireland shows what a weak leader we have. Choose to see it, or keep drinking the kool-aid. The LPC fooled this country something good.
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I was under the impression the question was why did they reverse course and bring back their 175 workers.
Could be the threat of a lawsuit. Could be someone promised them some of that $9b pie.
The plant has been closed for 3 years and now everyone decides to get on board with blaming Carney. Add to that tRump made it clear a year ago that auto manufacturers have to leave Canada. I thought you hated CBC now you’re quoting them?
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I feel like this is just a reflexive "lashing out", because I am quite clearly not on record on this site as a LPC supporter. I simple despise the partisan desire to paint every action taken at this time as a LPC failure.
Almost like the larger economy to our south started an economic war with us...
So the solution is to become an every decreasing "branch plant" of America? Americans have made it pretty clear they don't want Canadians making their stuff, so we either find a new place to sell sell our stuff, or we stop making stuff...
I don't hate that people like you dislike the LPC, I hate that you don't have a solution that isn't becoming a lesser partner with America. The old system is dead. We aren't going back to the Reagan/Mulroney years. There is no more 'When Irish Eyes Are Smiling"...
Lastly, and I know you ignore this every time it is highlighted, we do far less business with China than America. If America has a problem with out dealings, then they need to have a long hard look at their own dealings with China.
I'm not a fan of the process, but it's long established, and growing in popularity among all parties. It's a rot at the core of the whole system, not specific to any one political philosophy/leaning. To my mind all parliamentary meetings should be public, unless they are demonstrably about classified subjects.
I'm not terminally online enough to know what you're referencing in Ireland, but once again, I think you are just so primed for a fight that you don't know who you are lashing out at. I'm not a LPC fan. I just hate the current anti-LPC weirdness that tries to make every minor issue into a giant problem.
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Seriously? Its called democracy. You CHALLENGE, question and scrutinize the government, and this current form of the LPC has been dodging said accountability at an alarming rate
I can post a video of how he reacted to journalist asking him simple questions, yes?
Seriously? I have been criticizing Carney Liberals for almost 2 years because surprise, he hasn't produced sweet F all for results in 2 years. He has dropped the ball on DEBT (big time), crime, immigration, housing (the federal portion), Trade with the USA (he ASSURED us he could get a deal and he should not have shot his mouth off if he wasn't 100% sure), Hasn't even touched inter provincial trade barriers (Or as I call them Provincial tariffs since they have the same damn result), Still billions going to Media (not just the CBC), need I keep the list going?
First, get it straight, the majority of automobiles we made in Canada were sold to the....USA (I actually didn't know that until the trade dispute started). So, they want shit made for them by their own, like we are half assed trying to do? OK. WE made our economy dependent on trade with America (according to Prof Ian Lee, we did this over 60-70 years so all those respective PMs are to blame).
It has been made clear, we can't just "shut off" or "switch over" to a new nation for that $400 Billion trade we send to the USA. We are the smaller fish, deal with it. That goes for many on here living in a delusional reality where they think we are going to economically hurt the USA.
He said he could make a deal, and he has failed to do it. Its not like President Trump wasn't the same ornery, boisterous and obnoxious president back in early 2025. Carney knew who he was stepping in the ring with.
Turning to the EU? What make ourselves more dependent on a host of nations that are a train wreck right now, never agree on anything and several of those nations do not want to deal with us.
Turning to China? Yeah, hard pass.
Summing up. Not going to keep tearing apart your daydreams on what you believe Carney is and he is doing.
The Liberals are obsessed with power, thats it. They will say anything, do anything to gain and then retain power.
Many of you were fooled by Carney stepping in as the lead man for the LPC (brought to you by well bribed media), got yourselves into a cult mindset (Like many with Trudeau did) and now refuse to scrutinize under a microscope ANYTHING Carney and his brand of Liberals do, or fail to do.
A few years ago, I warned many on here that Trudeau failed Canada (and boy there were many die hard defenders), and now no one challenges that view. Including the Liberals.
I also warned many here that Jagmeet Singh was hurting Canada and more importantly, he was sinking the NDP, and surprise, he did it turned out. The NDP is still struggling.
I pumped up Pierre Poilievre and the CPC but nah, we can't do that. If the same microscope used to judge the leader of the opposition was used on the Prime Minister, Carney would be LONG gone.
The Liberals failed Canada again. Bottom line.
Believe whatever you want to believe.
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I do hate the CBC, but even a broken watch is right twice a day. Lets deal with what actually happened rather than trying to twist your views of reality to fit the narrative you want to believe.
I know why the plant closed. I was raised in Brampton. One of my high school friends, Sherri, worked there for 25 years and she filled me in on the initial re-tooling shut down back when it wasn't a news item. They were all put on a special EI for the layoff (with the understanding they were going back to work when re-tooling was done).
Yes, Trump hammered us with tariffs. He wants more jobs for Americans, he ran on it. See my comments on the previous post about us making ourselves dependent on the USA over 70 some odd years.
Carney is in the big chair and does not hesitate to take credit for every slight uptick in GDP, job numbers when they happen and small success stories but when shit goes south or sideways, ohhh, its not his fault. People like you enable that mindset.
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