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Our PM is about to boo-boo BIGTIME

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read it for yourself...

personally, I think he might just be crushed for this:

http://www.canada.com/maritimes/story.html?id=ba534e8e-1402-4320-9506-8ade7ca3a588

Martin set for politically fraught meeting with Tamils in Colombo, Sri Lanka
 
Bruce Cheadle
Canadian Press

Sunday, January 16, 2005

COLOMBO, Sri Lanka (CP) - Prime Minister Paul Martin wades into Sri Lanka's murky domestic politics Monday when he meets with parliamentarians affiliated with the Tamil Tigers, a separatist insurgent group.

Martin will first pay a visit to Canada's Disaster Assistance Response Team, or DART, in Ampara, almost two hours up the coast by helicopter.

But navigation could be considerably more complicated in the capital, where Martin hopes to make good on a pledge to ensure equitable aid distribution throughout Sri Lanka in the wake of the devastating tsunamis three weeks ago.

Martin made the promise in Canada, catering to the 250,000-strong Tamil expatriot community - the largest in the world. Tamils are considered crucial to Liberal electoral prospects in about 10 Toronto-area ridings, but the Liberation Tigers of Tamil Eelam (LTTE) organization has been declared a terrorist organization by the United Nations and several Canadian allies, including the United States, Great Britain and Australia.

Canada only went halfway in outlawing the fundraising activities of the Tigers or LTTE, but not the organization itself.

On Monday, Martin meets with three politicians of the Tamil National Alliance, which is not directly affiliated with the Tigers.

"However they very accurately reflect the views of the LTTE," a senior Canadian official said Sunday evening in Colombo.

Two of the three men Martin is to meet - Paraajasingham and Ponnambalam - were denied visas to Canada last year because of concerns they would engage in illegal LTTE fund-raising.

Martin's officials insisted there's nothing controversial about Monday's meeting, which will be followed by a talk with Sri Lankan President Chandrika Kumaratunga.

"To meet with the Tamil leadership, I don't think that poses a problem," said one official, speaking on background.


Martin's first stop Sunday on his nine-day Asian tour was less politically fraught but more emotionally draining.

Canadian volunteers in Phuket recounted their grim duties to the prime minister after he arrived in Thailand to assess the post-tsunami cleanup.

Martin said he was deeply moved after meeting with about a dozen Canadians who dropped vacations and job commitments to help in any way they could after the Dec. 26 disaster.

"To see how human beings are capable of turning towards each other in times of crisis is a wonderful thing," said Martin.

"To recognize in your own countrymen, your own countrywomen, that kind of desire makes us recognize there is a common humanity."

One volunteer, Greg Baytalan of Kelowna, B.C., said he's spent his time helping unload recovered corpses.

"I would need longtime, deep-depth Alzheimers before I would forget this," said the public health inspector, 46.

"I was slugging bodies up to the morgue . . . It was beyond all horror."

Baytalan was on vacation in Australia when the tsunami struck and felt compelled to offer help.

Greg Jones, a mall developer from St. Thomas, Ont., who now lives in Bangkok, was on holiday in Kamala on Phuket Island when the waves struck.

He raced away from the shore as he watched the tsunami in his car's rear-view mirror - then returned to help the survivors.

"I was lucky and you just want to help," he said.

Jones has spent his time collecting lost documents and combing area hospitals for Canadians.

Four of Canada's six confirmed dead perished in Thailand. There are still 29 Canadians officially listed as missing, all but one or two of them lost from Thailand's beaches.

One government official said families of the missing have all left the country, adding it has been a week since anyone held out hope of finding any of the 29 missing Canadians alive.

The prime minister met Sunday with Thailand's interior minister, who asked for Canadian expertise in reclaiming and rebuilding damaged shorelines. Martin also talked to the RCMP forensics team that is wrapping up the grisly task of collecting identifying markings - from DNA samples to fingerprints and dental moulds - from hundreds of recovered bodies.

A visit to a Buddhist temple at Kamala beach provided a sobering view of the tsunami's damage, while at the same time showcasing the remarkable Thai recovery just three weeks after the disaster. Three monks died at the temple, while three schoolchildren and a teacher perished in an adjoining school.

Evidence of the tsunami's fury was clear three metres up the freshly scarred trunks of massive pine trees along the beach front.

Yet cleanup efforts had already taken away most of the debris from the shattered school and dozens of wrecked restaurants and shops. Thai workers were busily rebuilding Sunday as the prime minister toured the area.

Martin said later the experience shows that a long-term rebuilding plan must be put in place, especially to restore Thailand's fishing industry, which lost some 4,500 boats to the tsunami.

"It's not just the pain and suffering you see, but its the pain and suffering you don't see that we've got to deal with," said Martin.

 
I don't think this is a "boo boo" move on the PM's behalf, I think its the exact opposite.  Prime Minister Paul Martin wants to meet with all of the relevent leaders of the country, and all of the relevent people involved in the distribution of aid, to ensure that as many people are being helped as possible.  So what if the Tamils are a seperatist group?  The Tamils still have legitimate representation in their parliament, and still represent an official political party.  Yes, there has been some press about the Tamil Tigers, and their insurgent war against government forces in the past - but this isn't about taking sides.  Its about talking to all of the parties to ensure people all across the nation are helped, not just the people who happen to live where the government in power holds authority.                    :cdn:
 
The Tamil Tigers receive funds from criminal organizations in Canada, particularly in the Toronto region [remember the debit and credit card scams at the gas stations a few years ago?]. If Paul Martin met with the Hells Angels,he would be crucified by his party, but because this criminal organization has electoral influence in Liberal ridings, he goes off pandering to votes.  It's shameful, really.
 
CBH99 said:
Prime Minister Paul Martin wants to meet with all of the relevent leaders of the country,
So, when visiting Canada, foreign heads of government & heads of state should demand to meet with he leader of the Parti Québécois.   Right?
 
MCG said:
So, when visiting Canada, foreign heads of government & heads of state should demand to meet with he leader of the Parti Québécois.   Right?

That's a good idea! That way, they can give us Quebecois some illegal money and maybe help us build a new "liberation force"!
 
MCG said:
So, when visiting Canada, foreign heads of government & heads of state should demand to meet with he leader of the Parti Québécois.  Right?

Wait, wait. This seems familiar...hmmm...guy named Charles? Moustache? Something about Libra?
 
Tall chap, big nose, funny accent?

Don't know who you're talking about.
 
Notice CP didn't use the "T" word to describe the Tamil Tigers? Odd how criminals and murderers get a pass. Anyone want to take this story to the Debating news stories with the authors forum? http://army.ca/forums/threads/25288.0.html
 
Guys, it doesn't matter what the inner-politics of the country are.  The tamils have control over a certain part of the country, and the people in that part of the country still need help.  The intricacies of the government and opposition parties here are irrelevent, the people who need help must be helped.  It just so happens that in this case, the opposition party runs a whole section of the country - yes, it complicates things from a political perspective - but this is about getting aid to needy people, not which leader can put on the best show to the governments pouring in the foreign aid.
 
CBH99 said:
Guys, it doesn't matter what the inner-politics of the country are. The tamils have control over a certain part of the country, and the people in that part of the country still need help. The intricacies of the government and opposition parties here are irrelevent, the people who need help must be helped. It just so happens that in this case, the opposition party runs a whole section of the country - yes, it complicates things from a political perspective - but this is about getting aid to needy people, not which leader can put on the best show to the governments pouring in the foreign aid.

The "opposition party?" The LTTE is one of the most vicious terrorist organizations on earth. These are the guys that pioneered the use of suicide bombers, especially the idea of detonating them at random in market places and other areas of high population density.

"Have control over a certain portion of the country?" So If I lead a band of terrorists and capture a portion of Southweatern Ontario through assasination, car bombing, suicide bombing and armed conflict directed at the police, military, and government agencis of Ontario and Canada, then I can expect a visit from the PM or President Bush?

By all means aid the needy, through the legitimate govenment, do not bolster the cause of terrorists by doing so.
 
whiskey 601 said:
The Tamil Tigers receive funds from criminal organizations in Canada, particularly in the Toronto region [remember the debit and credit card scams at the gas stations a few years ago?]. If Paul Martin met with the Hells Angels,he would be crucified by his party, but because this criminal organization has electoral influence in Liberal ridings, he goes off pandering to votes.   It's shameful, really.

Add to that extortion of the refugees here in Toronto and organized welfare fraud.

Also just coincidence that Bill Graham was the point man over this when the PM was out of the country. He's not the Foreign Affairs Minister anymore no matter how much he thinks/wants to be. But a big chunk of the 250,000 are in his riding.

Sorry I'm with the majority here, these are terrs plain and simple. I have no problem helping everyone in that country, but I draw the line at sitting down at the table with terrs to keep my cushy seat in Parliament back home.

Just my 2 Baht's worth
 
It wouldn't be like meeting with the leader of the "PQ", it would be more like meeting with the head of the "FLQ".
Wish I could say why but I have a bad feeling in the pit of my stomach..........
 
Hi,

If they(the Tamil Tigers) were to kidnap him for ransom, how much do you think we would have to pay for them to keep him? Or would they pay us to take him back?   ;D

Drummy
 
Drummy said:
Hi,

If they(the Tamil Tigers) were to kidnap him for ransom, how much do you think we would have to pay for them to keep him? Or would they pay us to take him back?   ;D

Drummy

Reminds me of the O'Henry story...
 
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