Political impacts of Ukraine war

[Brad Sallows]

The west as a collective has not done enough to help Ukraine, however it's the current US administration that has said that russia can keep the land it is occupying.

There isn't such a thing as "enough". Sometimes countries don't get a damn thing.

 

[KevinB]

The US president is the most pliable leader in the west. All someone has to do is frame the issue to look like he'll be a hero if he doesn't oppose it. The worry, as noted by others, is Hungary. Maybe also Turkey. But everyone has a price.

Turkey has thrown in with Ukraine. They are building them a lot of kill Russian stuff and have been fairly vocal of the last year about it.
Once Turkey saw that what a giant turd the S-400 was and what NATO system could do to it, they gave up trying to straddle the fence.

 

[Brad Sallows]

Once Turkey saw that what a giant turd the S-400 was and what NATO system could do to it, they gave up trying to straddle the fence.

"You sold me queer giraffes."

 

[CBH99]

The US president is the most pliable leader in the west. All someone has to do is frame the issue to look like he'll be a hero if he doesn't oppose it. The worry, as noted by others, is Hungary. Maybe also Turkey. But everyone has a price.

How is Hungary or Turkey 'make it or break it' players in the Russia vs Ukraibe war?

 

[McG]

Canada has stated its position that Ukraine must be involved in the process to make decisions on Ukraine’s future.

https://twitter.com/x/status/1955705710383096055

This is the statement Canada needed to make.

 

[Brad Sallows]

Canada has stated its position that Ukraine must be involved in the process to make decisions on Ukraine’s future.
This is the statement Canada needed to make.

Gee, great. Unfortunately, borders CAN be changed by force if no-one helps insufficiently strong defenders enough. It's all just twaddle until he gets Canada into a coalition - which might not include the US - willing to spend the money and make the sacrifices to apply meaningful military and economic pressure. It reminds me of the statements governments provide to news agencies on the embarrassing stories of the day - "The government of X is committed to <insert high-minded ideals bereft of evidence of useful action here>".

Canada is neck deep in debt and deficits. Other than being a fiscal moderate, maybe even conservative, on general management of money, Carney is pretty much a conventional contemporary Canadian Liberal on social programs, climate change, etc; and deficit spending to pay for all of the aforementioned. His party blew away what little pre-2015 fiscal freedom of manoeuvre we had, and he's in support of most of the causes of that. Is he planning anything on a time scale less than the one used to measure elections, I wonder.

The tut-tutting international community is moving more slowly on meaningful support of Ukraine than they are on routing around Trump's international trade damage. Just a stream of Serious Statements.