Replacing the Subs

[Underway]

I am, in actual fact, an expert on ASW. Nearly 2000hrs in a Sea King will do that…

Of course you're an expert, I was trying to pump you up as an expert to the experts! Lmoa

No more gun stuff on here please. There is a thread for that. Unless the gun shoots underwater or something!

 

[daftandbarmy]

Of course you're an expert, I was trying to pump you up as an expert to the experts! Lmoa

No more gun stuff on here please. There is a thread for that. Unless the gun shoots underwater or something!

Well, almost

 

[Maxman1]

Nearly 2000hrs in a Sea King will do that…

I just assume it will do this as well:

 

[Colin Parkinson]

I just assume it will do this as well:

VAC : Not service related......

 

[Nvlgzr]

Might end up being a different ending these days

Years ago, GABLER Naval was trying to generate interest in their hoistable mast launcher for IDAS.

 

[PHughes]

Up front, I have no backfground in ASW, but this recent RCN submarine RFI situation is making it a topic of interest.

Just a very preliminary search and a topic that comes up a lot is the impact of stealth on submarine design and the combination of AI and UUV in submarine hunting

Any pointers to appropriate websites/articles to flesh out this topic area is appreciated

This caught my attention

Silent waters, smart war: how AI is reshaping anti-submarine warfare - Navy Lookout

In this guest article, Tom Rooney considers the impact of uncrewed systems and artificial intelligence on the undersea battle. In the quiet expanse of the North Atlantic, an old strategic contest is being redrawn. Once the domain of Cold War cat-and-mouse games, the world of submarines has...

www.navylookout.com

 

[Czech_pivo]

Babcock, Fincantieri, Saab seek Poland ties as ‘Orca’ sub award nears

The European players inked cooperation agreements with PGZ on the first day of this year’s MSPO defense industry show in Kielce, Poland.

www.defensenews.com

Babcock, Fincantieri, Saab seek Poland ties as ‘Orca’ sub award nears​

Władysław Kosiniak-Kamysz, Poland’s deputy prime minister and defense minister, has said Warsaw plans to order between three and four new submarines for the naval forces by the end of 2025.
In May 2025, a spokesperson for the Polish ministry told Defense News its experts assigned the highest scores to the offers placed by Germany, Italy and Sweden. However, while these three offers received the highest scores from the Polish Armaments Agency, the military’s procurement arm, the remaining submarine offers have not been discarded amid ongoing talks with foreign governments, according to the spokesperson.

So according to this article, SK is not one of the 3 identified frontrunners for Poland's 4 new subs. The Poles are planning to place their order in the next 4 months. Carney is off to SK for a tour of Hanwha's facility during the 3rd week of October. If the Poles chose the Germans to build their 4 subs, I just don't see how the Germans will be able to handle that order, their own sub build, the Norwegians own needs and somehow magically fit our dozen into the mix. That's over 25 subs over the next 17-20yrs, just not feasible. The other wild card here of course is the Indians and if they chose to go with the German Type 212 as well.