Replacing the Subs

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Well a quick scan of the web indicates Poland expects to get the first sub by 2030…..which is interesting since the first one, which supposedly is already under construction is due to go to the Swedish Navy in 2031…..are the Swedes going to give up the first hull?

why not? It will be patrolling the same water and under the same pressures and with the same potential adversaries regardless of whether it flies the Swedish or Polish flag. In the meantime, SAAB gets a financial shot in the arm and an international sale. Win/win for them

 

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News out of Korea.

I found this part below interesting as I don't think this has been talked about in the past. I know that Germany had said that they could deliver 1 sub by 2035 and then no talk about the next 11 in terms of timelines.

"With Canada’s active submarines expected to retire around 2035, time is tight. Germany reportedly offered to reassign one of its own submarines scheduled for domestic deployment. Specifically, it proposed diverting the third of six stealthy 2,500-ton 212CD submarines it is co-developing with Norway — originally intended for German use in 2028 — to Canada."
So, would this sub in 2028 be in addition to one delivered in 2035, so we'd have 2 in the water by 2035, which is one less than what the SK's have promised or is this a sub in 2028 and then who knows when the next 11 come? Lot's of unknowns still on the German side.

'Submarine war' with Germany heats up in race for Canadian contract

With Korea ultimately eliminated from Poland’s bid to upgrade its naval capabilities with the Orka submarine procurement initiative, Seoul has launched an all-out campaign to beat Germany for a 60 trillion won Canadian submarine contract.

koreajoongangdaily.joins.com

'Submarine war' with Germany heats up in race for Canadian contract​

 

[Underway]

Sweden and Saab selected for Poland’s new submarines - Naval News

The Swedish government's offer of Saab’s A26 submarines to Poland has been selected by the Polish government to replace the current Kilo-class submarine

www.navalnews.com

Poland going with Saab subs it seems. Interesting choice. I guess it makes sense with the Baltic connection.

That's a bit left field. Perhaps Polish media had a better take that we all missed. But honestly looking at where Poland is, where Sweden is and what's a little to the left of them... makes complete sense to me. Industrial benifits, sub designed for the area, able to use each others ports if they need too.

 

[Underway]

News out of Korea.

I found this part below interesting as I don't think this has been talked about in the past. I know that Germany had said that they could deliver 1 sub by 2035 and then no talk about the next 11 in terms of timelines.

"With Canada’s active submarines expected to retire around 2035, time is tight. Germany reportedly offered to reassign one of its own submarines scheduled for domestic deployment. Specifically, it proposed diverting the third of six stealthy 2,500-ton 212CD submarines it is co-developing with Norway — originally intended for German use in 2028 — to Canada."
So, would this sub in 2028 be in addition to one delivered in 2035, so we'd have 2 in the water by 2035, which is one less than what the SK's have promised or is this a sub in 2028 and then who knows when the next 11 come? Lot's of unknowns still on the German side.

'Submarine war' with Germany heats up in race for Canadian contract

With Korea ultimately eliminated from Poland’s bid to upgrade its naval capabilities with the Orka submarine procurement initiative, Seoul has launched an all-out campaign to beat Germany for a 60 trillion won Canadian submarine contract.

koreajoongangdaily.joins.com

'Submarine war' with Germany heats up in race for Canadian contract​

This can only be a good thing for us. Two bidders fighting for the contract.