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Replacing the Subs

Well a quick scan of the web indicates Poland expects to get the first sub by 2030…..which is interesting since the first one, which supposedly is already under construction is due to go to the Swedish Navy in 2031…..are the Swedes going to give up the first hull?
why not? It will be patrolling the same water and under the same pressures and with the same potential adversaries regardless of whether it flies the Swedish or Polish flag. In the meantime, SAAB gets a financial shot in the arm and an international sale. Win/win for them
 
News out of Korea.

I found this part below interesting as I don't think this has been talked about in the past. I know that Germany had said that they could deliver 1 sub by 2035 and then no talk about the next 11 in terms of timelines.

"With Canada’s active submarines expected to retire around 2035, time is tight. Germany reportedly offered to reassign one of its own submarines scheduled for domestic deployment. Specifically, it proposed diverting the third of six stealthy 2,500-ton 212CD submarines it is co-developing with Norway — originally intended for German use in 2028 — to Canada."
So, would this sub in 2028 be in addition to one delivered in 2035, so we'd have 2 in the water by 2035, which is one less than what the SK's have promised or is this a sub in 2028 and then who knows when the next 11 come? Lot's of unknowns still on the German side.


'Submarine war' with Germany heats up in race for Canadian contract​

 

Poland going with Saab subs it seems. Interesting choice. I guess it makes sense with the Baltic connection.
That's a bit left field. Perhaps Polish media had a better take that we all missed. But honestly looking at where Poland is, where Sweden is and what's a little to the left of them... makes complete sense to me. Industrial benifits, sub designed for the area, able to use each others ports if they need too.
 
News out of Korea.

I found this part below interesting as I don't think this has been talked about in the past. I know that Germany had said that they could deliver 1 sub by 2035 and then no talk about the next 11 in terms of timelines.

"With Canada’s active submarines expected to retire around 2035, time is tight. Germany reportedly offered to reassign one of its own submarines scheduled for domestic deployment. Specifically, it proposed diverting the third of six stealthy 2,500-ton 212CD submarines it is co-developing with Norway — originally intended for German use in 2028 — to Canada."
So, would this sub in 2028 be in addition to one delivered in 2035, so we'd have 2 in the water by 2035, which is one less than what the SK's have promised or is this a sub in 2028 and then who knows when the next 11 come? Lot's of unknowns still on the German side.


'Submarine war' with Germany heats up in race for Canadian contract​

This can only be a good thing for us. Two bidders fighting for the contract.
 
Ongoing work planned for the Victoria-class to keep them going until their eventual replacements arrive...

 
Ongoing work planned for the Victoria-class to keep them going until their eventual replacements arrive...

Wonder if this work is for our single operational submarine or will the work be done on all 4 of them, even though 2 or more most likely won't be sailing again. Wonder when they will pay off 1 or 2 of them?
 
Wonder if this work is for our single operational submarine or will the work be done on all 4 of them, even though 2 or more most likely won't be sailing again. Wonder when they will pay off 1 or 2 of them?
Maritime Engineering Journal has a great issue out recently which goes into this refit extensively.

To answer your question from the PDF above:

The plan is to upgrade HMCS Windsor, Victoria, and Corner Brook during their respective docking work periods. HMCS Windsor’s implementation will serve as a pathfinder, generating valuable lessons to reduce risk and improve efficiency for subsequent installations. Beyond restoring and enhancing current capability, this program also builds domestic expertise in advanced sonar systems— laying the foundation for Canada’s future submarine fleet.

Some interesting images from the article above as well:

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Yah Chicoutimi will likely never sail again at least from what I'm hearing. Parts bin and salvage for the other submarines.
 
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