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Replacing the Subs

I asked my browsers AI this question:

How does the Lithium-Ion batteries work on the South Korean KS-III submarines?

Answer: The South Korean KSS-III (Dosan Ahn Changho-class) Batch-II submarines use advanced lithium-ion (Li-ion) batteries developed by Samsung SDI to replace traditional lead-acid systems. These batteries work in tandem with a fuel-cell-based Air Independent Propulsion (AIP) system to provide exceptional underwater endurance and speed.

Key Operational Features
  • Enhanced Energy Storage: Lithium-ion batteries provide significantly higher energy density than lead-acid batteries, allowing the submarine to store more power in the same volume.
  • Propulsion Synergy: The Li-ion batteries are used as the primary energy source for high-speed bursts and standard maneuvering. They are complemented by the Bumhan PEM fuel-cell AIP, which allows for extremely quiet, low-speed cruising and battery recharging while submerged.
  • Fast Recharging: These batteries can be recharged much faster than lead-acid counterparts, reducing the time a submarine must spend "snorkeling" (running diesel engines near the surface), which is when it is most vulnerable to detection.
  • Underwater Performance: The system enables the submarine to sustain maximum underwater speeds up to three times longer than lead-acid versions.

Performance Metrics
  • Submerged Endurance: The KSS-III Batch-II can remain submerged for more than 21 days (three weeks) and has a total cruising range exceeding 7,000 nautical miles.
  • Operational Longevity: The batteries offer a life cycle twice as long as lead-acid batteries and require significantly less maintenance due to their simplified mechanical and chemical requirements.

Configuration and Safety
  • Distributed Array: The battery system is split into two major groups: approximately 100 strings located in the forward bottom of the hull and another 100 strings in the aft.
  • Safety Engineering: Developed in collaboration with the Korea Electrotechnology Research Institute (KERI), the system includes a Battery Management System (BMS) to prevent thermal runaway and has been tested against extreme fire, salt water, and shock conditions.
South Korea is only the second country in the world, after Japan, to operationalize this technology in its submarine fleet.

And if you are wondering how the AIP system works, here is a good article on the subject and how different countries are utilizing different AIP technologies:

 
That PEM fuel cell. I believe it requires both a tankful of hydrogen and one of oxygen.

The waste product is water.

Hydrogen, oxygen, water, power...
how long can life be sustained with just those if surfacing becomes impossible?
 
That PEM fuel cell. I believe it requires both a tankful of hydrogen and one of oxygen.

The waste product is water.

Hydrogen, oxygen, water, power...
how long can life be sustained with just those if surfacing becomes impossible?
It's the same type of fuel cell that was used in the Space Shuttle. The answer to your question is how much fuel do you have. Its an extremely efficient reaction just very expensive to put LOX and LH2 into tanks. Weight to power ratio is about as high as you can go.
 
I realized I slightly missed my post target last night.

If this is correct, it appears they key for Hanwha winning the sub contract over TKMS is a Hyundai Motor plant being built in Canada. Germany may also be mulling over a similar move with a Volkswagen plant.

 
I realized I slightly missed my post target last night.

If this is correct, it appears they key for Hanwha winning the sub contract over TKMS is a Hyundai Motor plant being built in Canada. Germany may also be mulling over a similar move with a Volkswagen plant.

Build what cars for whom? For the Canadian market only as the US is showing it doesn't want cars made outside of the US itself? The only business case I see for that is building Korean or German cars for the Canadian market instead in importing them, which might be a small volume, expensive and inefficient way to build cars.
 
Build what cars for whom? For the Canadian market only as the US is showing it doesn't want cars made outside of the US itself? The only business case I see for that is building Korean or German cars for the Canadian market instead in importing them, which might be a small volume, expensive and inefficient way to build cars.
perhaps cars is only secondary in their manufacturing plan? they do have unsolicited proposals for extensive military manufacturing hub in Canada for domestic and global clients.
 
perhaps cars is only secondary in their manufacturing plan? they do have unsolicited proposals for extensive military manufacturing hub in Canada for domestic and global clients.
perhaps develop a factory in Canada to turn out tanks and APCs for onward sale. They are a lower volume item and much in demand right now
 
Build what cars for whom? For the Canadian market only as the US is showing it doesn't want cars made outside of the US itself? The only business case I see for that is building Korean or German cars for the Canadian market instead in importing them, which might be a small volume, expensive and inefficient way to build cars.
How about they instead build a Kia plant for continuous build of these?
 
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