Royal Canadian Air Force headed to mission in Africa ‘very soon’: top general

[a_majoor]

If it's going to be one of THOSE missions, the Ukrainians could actually share some tips with us...
-- "UN helicopters attack Ugandan rebels in DR Congo" (March 2016)
-- "Ukraine helicopter unit mainstay of UN peacekeeping operations in DR Congo" (Nov 2013)
That said ...
-- "U.N. Copter Raid Kills Five Bystanders" (Oct 2015)

So IFOR rather than UNPROFOR.

 

[Good2Golf]

So IFOR rather than UNPROFOR.

 

[McG]

Liberals commit $450M, up to 600 troops to UN peacekeeping missions, but you will have to wait until next month to find out where we are going.

Since a dollar value is being given, it would be nice to see Parliament approve this as a special approvisionnement. 

 

[Jarnhamar]

At least we have new  tan boots,  that'll save money.

Off topic but does anyone know if the new combats (mandarin collar)  come in arid CADPAT?

 

[Eye In The Sky]

At least we have new  tan boots,  that'll save money.

Off topic but does anyone know if the new combats (mandarin collar)  come in arid CADPAT?

I thought you'd be more interested in light blue paint in spray cans.  8)

 

[Lightguns]

At least we have new  tan boots,  that'll save money.

Off topic but does anyone know if the new combats (mandarin collar)  come in arid CADPAT?

Six months after end of mission they will.

 

[Journeyman]

Off topic but does anyone know if the new combats (mandarin collar)  come in arid CADPAT?

....along with Velcro-backed, arid jump wings; apparently  that shortcoming was critical to morale.  :nod:


Of course we have a new Army Commander now, so maybe that's been recognized as a stupid idea

 

[medicineman]

Of course we have a new Army Commander now, so maybe that's been recognized as a stupid idea

Not if we continue to have the same Army CWO I'm afraid...he's got some real bugs up his bum about these patches.

MM

 

[dimsum]

Latest from CBC:

Canada's mission in Africa will be focused on 'peacemaking,' UN ambassador says - 650 troops will be deployed to either Mali, Congo or the Central African Republic

Canada's ambassador to the UN says there will be "no quick fix" in Africa — a sign that Canadian peacekeepers waiting for deployment there could be in for a long-term commitment to the region ravaged by civil war and terrorism.

"There is no quick fix for anything in peace and security in some areas of the world and in the regions [Canada is considering for a mission]," Marc-André Blanchard said in an interview with CBC Radio's The House. He said while the road ahead might be dangerous for Canadian troops, the country has an obligation to intervene to prevent the violence from reaching our shores.

The government announced Friday it will commit $450 million to peace operations and the Canadian Armed Forces will, on top of existing commitments in the Middle East, eastern Europe and elsewhere, deploy up to 600 troops as part of the mission to Africa...

This bit is interesting:

Blanchard, a top Liberal fundraiser and corporate lawyer tapped by Prime Minister Justin Trudeau to bolster Canada's role at the UN ahead of a bid for a Security Council seat in 2021, said that the new mission in Africa will be different than those of the past. A big shift will be a focus on "peacemaking" and the right of Canadian troops to protect civilians caught in the crosshairs of conflict.

http://www.cbc.ca/news/politics/un-ambassador-peacekeeping-africa-1.3736907

 

[Altair]

Latest from CBC:

This bit is interesting:

http://www.cbc.ca/news/politics/un-ambassador-peacekeeping-africa-1.3736907

Good. Maybe everyone whining about 20 year old ROE cards can shut up now.

 

[PuckChaser]

Good. Maybe everyone whining about 20 year old ROE cards can shut up now.

Maybe they will when they see an actual ROE card, instead of a Liberal fundraiser telling the media what military rules of engagement are.

 

[Jarnhamar]

....along with Velcro-backed, arid jump wings; apparently  that shortcoming was critical to morale.  :nod:

Is that really a thing?

Good. Maybe everyone whining about 20 year old ROE cards can shut up now.

Consider some of those members whining may have had to watch men women and children raped and butchered in front of their very eyes so those old ROE's are understandably a sore spot.

 

[dimsum]

Maybe they will when they see an actual ROE card, instead of a Liberal fundraiser telling the media what military rules of engagement are.

Normally I'd wholeheartedly agree, but said Liberal fundraiser is also Canada's ambassador to the UN, so I'd think he has some "inside info" on the future ROE of whatever mission(s) are coming down the pipe.

 

[PuckChaser]

Is that really a thing?

Yep, you can wear 2 specialist badges on your lower left velcro on your sleeve in CADPAT. Critical to operational effectiveness.

 

[Good2Golf]

Good. Maybe everyone whining about 20 year old ROE cards can shut up now.

I wouldn't, until I saw the ROEIMP msg and the soldier's card.

:2c:

 

[Altair]

Is that really a thing?


Consider some of those members whining may have had to watch men women and children raped and butchered in front of their very eyes so those old ROE's are understandably a sore spot.

Sure. But when you consider that nobody knows what the ROEs are going to be bring up old ROEs as a reason to whine about current peacekeeping/peacemaking is annoying.

 

[Altair]

Maybe they will when they see an actual ROE card, instead of a Liberal fundraiser telling the media what military rules of engagement are.

That's a great idea. Let's all wait to see what the ROEs are and then comment on them when we know what they are.

Much better than bringing up old 20 year old ROEs like they matter today.

 

[GAP]

tow the line man....tow the line....... :

 

[Good2Golf]

That's fine.  What's one man's annoyance is another's concern.

At least those who are doubtful about better ROE are basing that on a long list of poor ROE in numerous PKOs...you know, "Deeds Speak", etc... 

Is it any less annoying to hear "Sunny ways, trust us, the ROE will be much better...?"  Probably not...

G2G

 

[Journeyman]

Good. Maybe everyone whining about 20 year old ROE cards can shut up now.

Unlike the "I've got no time in;  I need  a deployment so people will respect me!!" whiners?    :tempertantrum:

....annoying.

  :nod: