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So do you think that that would be an easier sell and legitimately the West's problem if Assad was gassing people of a different ethnicity / religion...?
myself.only said:So do you think that that would be an easier sell and legitimately the West's problem if Assad was gassing people of a different ethnicity / religion...?
Inquisitor said:Sarah Paulin
Scott said:"Inquisitor" has been discovered to be a reincarnation of a banned member. It took me a while, but I have enough to send his arse packing.
Nice try. Your manner undid you...again.
"First of all, I didn't set a red line," said Obama.
Robert Spencer at FrontPageMag:
Obama doesn't even have any real allies inside Syria...The major rebel groups are all allied with al-Qaeda. John Kerry insists they're "secular" and John McCain assures us they're "moderates." None of these groups, however, have shown any sign of being either.
Vladimir Putin:
"They lie beautifully, of course. I saw debates in Congress. A congressman asks Mr Kerry: 'Is al Qaeda there?' He says: 'No, I am telling you responsibly that it is not.' Al Qaeda units are the main military echelon, and they know this. It was unpleasant and surprising for me - we talk to them, we proceed from the assumption that they are decent people. But he is lying and knows he is lying. It's sad."
75,000 troops needed to secure chemical weapons if Damascus falls
Published time: September 05, 2013 15:24
(AP) The potential of strategic US strikes in Syria has sparked fears Damascus’ chemical weapons could fall into the wrong hands if the government is toppled. A recent congressional report says 75,000 troops would be needed to safeguard the WMD caches.
The Congressional Research Center (CRS) report, issued just one day before the alleged August 21 chemical weapons attack in a Damascus suburb, was compiled with the aim of “responding to possible scenarios involving the use, change of hands, or loss of control of Syrian chemical weapons.”
It states that Syria’s chemical weapon stockpiles, which a French intelligence report recently estimated at over 1,000 tons, have been secured by Syrian special forces.
“Due to the urgency of preventing access to these weapons by unauthorized groups, including terrorists, the United States government has been preparing for scenarios to secure the weapons in the event of the Assad regime’s loss of control,” the document reads
Testifying before the Senate Armed Services Committee on March 7, 2012, then-Secretary of Defense Leon Panetta warned the ouster of Assad would present a scenario “100 times worse than what we dealt with in Libya.”
In order to secure the 50 chemical weapon and production sites spread across Syria, in addition to storage and research facilities, “The Pentagon has estimated that it would take over 75,000 troops to neutralize the chemical weapons,” the document continues, citing a February 2012 CNN report.
Meanwhile, a resolution backing the use of force against President Bashar Assad's government cleared the Senate Foreign Relations Committee on a 10-7 vote on Wednesday, although section 3 of the draft ostensibly ruled out US combat operations on the ground.
The wording of the text, however, could potentially allow for troops on the ground for the sake of non-offensive operations, including securing chemical weapons stockpiles and production facilities.
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If people haven't figured he's the king o' flip flop and the biggest lyin' shyte south of 49, they deserve to spend their time in purgatory , praising him, while the country falls apart around them.Rifleman62 said:IMHO this is an obvious example of the WH press corp, absolutely and positively in President Obama's pocket, providing intimate support to a POTUS who has got himself in a big, big mess. As a matter of fact, President Obama now denies saying "a red line".
People forget that al Qaeda is Russia's enemy also.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=avQKLRGRhPU
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-xKxzF_K2u8
From SDA:
Rifleman62 said:People forget that al Qaeda is Russia's enemy also.
International Business Times, 6 Sept 13Russian landing ship Nikolai Filchenkov is reportedly heading to the Syrian coast as tension in the region continues to escalate.
The deployment of another vessel by Moscow, a key ally of Damascus, comes as the US considers unleashing a military strike against president Bashar al-Assad's regime.
"The vessel will dock in Novorossiysk where it will take special cargo on board and head to the designated area of military service in the eastern Mediterranean," an unnamed naval source told Russia's Interfax news agency.
The nature of the cargo is still unclear. The vessel has capacity for 3,300 troops and 1,700 tonnes of cargo, including 20 tanks.
It is protected by three guns and three missile launchers ....
Prime Minister Stephen Harper today announced further Canadian support to help address the worsening humanitarian situation in Syria.
“The Government of Canada stands with the people of Syria as they continue to face unfathomable hardships at the hands of the Assad regime,” said Prime Minister Harper. “Canada’s support, together with that of its allies, will help provide much needed humanitarian assistance to the millions of innocent people whose lives are being destroyed by the conflict in Syria.”
Canada will provide $45 million in support of humanitarian organizations striving to meet the needs of Syrians affected by the conflict. This includes providing food, clean water and sanitation, medical assistance, shelter and protection to those Syrians in country, as well as to those who have fled to neighbouring nations.
With this announcement, Canada has committed $203.5 million for humanitarian assistance to the crisis in Syria since January 2012.
.... Canada’s support will help humanitarian organizations meet the needs of Syrians affected by the conflict by providing food, clean water and sanitation, medical assistance, shelter and protection to those Syrians in country, as well as to those who have fled to neighbouring nations ....
Putin warns Russia could come to Syria's aid over US strike
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Putin escalated concerns about the fallout from any strike when he indicated in an interview published Wednesday that his country could send Syria and its neighbors in the region the components of a missile shield if the U.S. attacks.
U.S. Gen. Martin Dempsey, chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff, testified this week that the Russians might even replace any military assets the U.S. destroys in a strike.
The warnings raise the possibility of a supposedly "limited" strike on Syria turning into a proxy tit-for-tat between Russia and the U.S.
Rep. George Holding, R-N.C., went further during a hearing on Syria on Wednesday, pressing military officials on what the U.S. would do "if Russia decided to strike at us in that theater."
"We can certainly say that Russia would have options to strike us in that theater in retaliation for us striking their ally," he warned.
Dempsey declined to engage in that discussion, saying only that "Russia has capabilities that range from the asymmetric, including cyber, all the way up through strategic nuclear weapons. And again, it wouldn't be helpful in this setting to speculate about that."
Secretary of State John Kerry, though, said the Russians have made clear they don't intend to go to war over a strike on Syria.
Perhaps more likely is that Putin's government would continue to aid and prop up the Assad regime, undermining any gains made by a U.S. strike.
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Technoviking said:I wonder if Canada will get involved? But I suspect it wouldn't be for a year or so. I mean, first they would need to set up a Strat Recce into Syria, followed by a Tac Recce, then the HLTA plan would have to be made up, the work up training would have to be booked at Wainwright, etc etc.
/sarcasm