The David Ahenakew Thread- Merged

[17thRecceSgt]

I can't believe this crap up there is STILL ongoing.

Go outside your home, barricade it, and the road you live on.  See how long it takes for the cop's to show up, and if they just stand there.

I don't understand.  Wait.  Liberal government in Ont.  :

 

[zipperhead_cop]

I can't believe this crap up there is STILL ongoing.

Yeah, funny that.  I would be interested to see what would happen if they pulled some crap like this in Alberta (the last common sense province it would seem). 

 

[aluc]

http://www.torontosun.ca/News/Canada/2006/08/29/1783477


E-mail threats over MPP's remark
Tue, August 29, 2006


By ANTONELLA ARTUSO, QUEEN'S PARK BUREAU CHIEF




The local MPP for Caledonia says he has received anonymous threats telling him to "go back to Europe."

Toby Barrett, the Conservative MPP for Haldimand-Norfolk-Brant, initially blamed organized crime yesterday for the native barricades in Caledonia but later retracted his comments.

"I got a message, 'Go back to Europe.' I have been told I'm not welcome on Six Nations," Barrett said.

Conflict has flared up repeatedly between Six Nations protesters and their non-native neighbours at the occupied site of a former housing development in Caledonia.

'NO-GO ZONE'

Natives are negotiating with representatives of the Ontario and federal governments to resolve a longstanding land claim.

Barrett said it's well known that native communities are a "no-go zone" for the OPP.

Six Nations neighbours are speculating the Mohawk Warriors and their criminal partners may be trying to get a casino or facilitate the smuggling of illegal cigarettes with the barricade, Barrett said early yesterday.

"People see no agenda, they see no plan other than from the occupied site. And the perception is that things are driven by the (Mohawk) Warriors and by the organized crime that they represent," he said.

Asked to name the organized crime outfit, Barrett listed the "Hells Angels, Sri Lanka mafia, Italian mafia, Russian mafia, Vagabonds."

Later in the day Barrett issued a written statement: "I do not believe and in no way intended to imply that organized crime was behind the occupation in Caledonia."



Barrett's comments make sense to me. I would like to find out where he collected his info. And if it's true, he should continue enlightening us on why these barricades are really up. I'm disappointed that he retracted his statements and broke down in the face of political pressure.

 

[Gunnar]

I'm disappointed that he retracted his statements and broke down in the face of political pressure.

While likely still true, it is probable that he made the comments in the absence of hard evidence, at least evidence that was personally known to him.  He is thus merely staying within his lane.

 

[Kat Stevens]

Combat Ralph Klein should contract out as a freelance Premier, 2 year contract and a guarantee to get your Provincial Govt thinking properly again..... ;D

 

[Fry]

In response to the topic's question, no, they're not.

I have a mentally ill uncle who's dependant upon whatever drugs he can find. He's got multiple charges facing him, a criminal record, I won't get into specifics but he's one real low-life. Anywho, everytime it comes for him to face charges, he either pleads he's mentally ill, and gets 6 months in the mental hospital, or he goes nuts and goes to the mental hospital for a few weeks. Then the court dates are pushed ahead a few more months, and he can go about making people's lives miserable throughout the community. Threatening to kill people, children, burn their houses down, calling people late at night and threating their kids, this stuff is just horrible, not to mention cruelty to animals, drug charges... the list goes on.

The RCMP have been very helpful to us regarding this situation and have done all they can/will do all they can for us. But, when it comes time to go before the judge... as the baymen say "sling she goes".

Mental health patients who have criminal records and keep reoffending should be placed in care, or very closely monitored to ensure that nothing serious happens.

 

[zipperhead_cop]

Bring back Harris to fix this mess. Better yet, make these kind of situations a federal issue. Let the RCMP/CF deal with these problems, since the combination of the Ontario Gov't / OPP seem incapable of resolving any of these problems without either backing off or throwing themselves into the fire of public inquiry, 

No.  He hung Ken Deane out in a big way and is a major contributor to this issue.  After Dudley George was shot as a result of a JUSTIFIED police shooting, they should have regrouped and went back in.  Instead, Harris realized one of our precious "preferred citizens" was dead, and all of a sudden the issue of native armed resistance came to the fore in a heart beat.  He caved, and let the natives scour the area of shell casings and rounds lodged into trees and three days after the shooting, they were allowed to enter and conduct the investigation.  And the donkey show railroaded trial that ensued was also politically motivated.  Strange that three ranking individuals from that incident have all been killed in motor vehicle accidents since then.  I'm no conspiracy theorist, but I'm also not a big fan of coincidence. 
The MP was bang on with his comments about native organized crime.  They are fairly mercenary in their involvement with other traditional and non traditional organized crime groups.  Money is money. 

Criminal organizations, such as Aboriginal smuggling groups operating on border reserve areas, remain involved in smuggling contraband across the Canada/U.S. border.  As well, a number of strategically located
individuals, such as some border residents and port employees, play varying roles in the illegal cross-border movement of people and commodities. Border entry points and the areas between these points
are vulnerable to criminal exploitation as crime groups adapt smuggling strategies in response to enforcement scrutiny.
(Entire source document from the CSIC not available for general viewing--police sensitive)

If anyone wants to read an open source document on native organized crime CLICK HERE

 

[aluc]

http://www.thestar.com/NASApp/cs/ContentServer?pagename=thestar/Layout/Article_Type1&c=Article&pubid=968163964505&cid=1156845306368&col=968705899037&call_page=TS_News&call_pageid=968332188492&call_pagepath=News/News


Caledonia protesters seek supplies for winter
Aug. 29, 2006. 02:37 PM
CANADIAN PRESS

Aboriginal protesters occupying a former housing development site in Caledonia, Ont., are asking for donations to help them make it through the winter.

The Six Nations protesters, who have occupied the land since February, are calling for building supplies to help them finish constructing the 11 houses on the disputed territory.

Janie Jameson, spokeswoman for the protesters, says no one wants to see the half-built houses "rot away" when they could be used for shelter during the winter.

She says protesters also need non-perishable food and warm clothing to help them maintain their occupation, which she says will only end when the land is returned to the Six Nations people.

But Jason Clark, of the Caledonia Citizens Alliance, says residents are at their "wit's end" and can't contemplate the occupation — which has been marred by barricades and violent clashes — lasting into the winter.

He says it's time both levels of government stepped in to end the occupation.
:rofl:

So this could work to the government's advantage.....cut off the supply chain and they'll go away... they could turn it into a war of attrition!

 

[George Wallace]

:

So now they want the "White Man" to give them free building supplies to finish the construction of houses that they are occupying illegally.........and food and blankets to survive the winter.  :

Perhaps they should visit their Bank first, or maybe just go home to their well stocked fridges in their warm homes.  :

Sheeeesssh!

 

[Fishbone Jones]

So this could work to the government's advantage.....cut off the supply chain and they'll go away... they could turn it into a war of attrition!

Yep. Instead of them keeping everyone out, it's time to fence them in and cut them off.

 

[FastEddy]

:

So now they want the "White Man" to give them free building supplies to finish the construction of houses that they are occupying illegally.........and food and blankets to survive the winter.   :

Perhaps they should visit their Bank first, or maybe just go home to their well stocked fridges in their warm homes.   :

Sheeeesssh!

Are you kidding ???, just watch,  "YOUR TAX DOLLARS AT WORK"

 

[17thRecceSgt]

From the news tonight...

"Mud Recce Man Seeks Provisions To Make It Thru This Trng Year at Unit XX"

MRM informed the FGY News Reporter, Homer Simpson, that he needs many supplies to make it thru this trng cycle at UnitXX.  Supplies needed are...

1.  Food.  Pizza is preferred.
2.  Water.
3.  Non-water beverages.  NSLC has a selection, and MRM is registered there...

Ok how serious would anyone take THAT?

Sheesh.

let's just kit-out the next "prison uprising" with gas masks, rations, water and billy-clubs....

Ya I think my post is as ridiculous as that one is.  maybe more.  maybe less.

:

 

[Kat Stevens]

When the Matsqui prison rioted in the early 80s, the inmates burned the block, and all their bedding.  Mighty CFB Chilliwack to the rescue, erecting mod tent, setting up cots, and bedding.  Lamest aid to civil power display EVER.... I was disgusted.

 

[aluc]

Yep. Instead of them keeping everyone out, it's time to fence them in and cut them off.

Caesar would be proud! The government should erect  earthen/wooden ramparts and completely encircle them. ok, just kidding....

 

[aluc]

http://www.thestar.com/NASApp/cs/ContentServer?pagename=thestar/Layout/Article_Type1&c=Article&cid=1157017625971&call_pageid=968332188492&col=968793972154&t=TS_Home



Native protestors warned :rofl:
Aug. 31, 2006. 11:15 AM
CANADIAN PRESS

The federal and Ontario governments are telling Six Nations leaders to stop aboriginal protesters from harassing local residents in Caledonia.

The ministers responsible for aboriginal affairs from each government have written Chief Allen MacNaughton seeking to ease the ``considerable degree of tension" in Caledonia.

The ministers blame the tension on harassment by some occupiers towards nearby residents, and on occasional "provocative actions" directed towards the protesters.

Aboriginals have occupied the site of a partially-built housing project in Caledonia since February, saying the land was wrongfully taken from them over 200 years ago.

The ministers warn Chief MacNaughton of the serious consequences of further disturbances in Caledonia.

They call for an end to "loud noises, firecrackers, bright lights from ATVs and other vehicles, and any other activities that disturb the peace in neighbouring areas."

Three people were injured in a fire Wednesday night in an unfinished home on the occupied housing site.

Six Nations firefighters attended the blaze, but a local resident says members of the Caledonia fire department had to standby idly in a nearby parking lot.

The province bought the Douglas Creek site last month and has allowed the protesters to stay while negotiations with the two levels of government continue.

But Premier Dalton McGuinty said Wednesday it was unacceptable for them to remain on the land over the winter.






What's the difference? Our Ontario government let them stay all year long, why not the whole winter too! Hmmmm....this could be another PR move by the government...... if they stay the winter, there could be a chance that some of the occupiers may freeze to death. If that happens the government will probably get lambasted for allowing them to freeze because we didn't supply them with adequate "everything they want" . Just like the homeless in TO.

it was unacceptable for them to remain on the land over the winter.

  I see....because of the change in season , it's now become unacceptable for the insurgents to stay the winter. Whereas before the frost hits the ground, it appears to be acceptable!

 

[TCBF]

Is there an Armoury close by?  I bet they could stay in that for the winter.  I mean, if it's good enough for Toronto homeless...

 

[rmacqueen]

Or we could just give them some mods ;D

 

[The_Falcon]

Or we could just give them some mods ;D

why be so generous, artic tents all the way.

 

[Fishbone Jones]

why be so generous, artic tents all the way.

Shelter halves

 

[Fry]

http://www.thestar.com/NASApp/cs/ContentServer?pagename=thestar/Layout/Article_Type1&c=Article&cid=1157017625971&call_pageid=968332188492&col=968793972154&t=TS_Home



Native protestors warned :rofl:
Aug. 31, 2006. 11:15 AM
CANADIAN PRESS

The federal and Ontario governments are telling Six Nations leaders to stop aboriginal protesters from harassing local residents in Caledonia.

The ministers responsible for aboriginal affairs from each government have written Chief Allen MacNaughton seeking to ease the ``considerable degree of tension" in Caledonia.

The ministers blame the tension on harassment by some occupiers towards nearby residents, and on occasional "provocative actions" directed towards the protesters.

Aboriginals have occupied the site of a partially-built housing project in Caledonia since February, saying the land was wrongfully taken from them over 200 years ago.

The ministers warn Chief MacNaughton of the serious consequences of further disturbances in Caledonia.

They call for an end to "loud noises, firecrackers, bright lights from ATVs and other vehicles, and any other activities that disturb the peace in neighbouring areas."

Three people were injured in a fire Wednesday night in an unfinished home on the occupied housing site.

Six Nations firefighters attended the blaze, but a local resident says members of the Caledonia fire department had to standby idly in a nearby parking lot.

The province bought the Douglas Creek site last month and has allowed the protesters to stay while negotiations with the two levels of government continue.

But Premier Dalton McGuinty said Wednesday it was unacceptable for them to remain on the land over the winter.






What's the difference? Our Ontario government let them stay all year long, why not the whole winter too! Hmmmm....this could be another PR move by the government...... if they stay the winter, there could be a chance that some of the occupiers may freeze to death. If that happens the government will probably get lambasted for allowing them to freeze because we didn't supply them with adequate "everything they want" . Just like the homeless in TO.
  I see....because of the change in season , it's now become unacceptable for the insurgents to stay the winter. Whereas before the frost hits the ground, it appears to be acceptable!

If this were fisherman or pulp n' paper workers here, acting like that... they'd be arrested, lol.