The Great Gun Control Debate- 2.0

[Jarnhamar]

You can say a lot of things about the LPC but I'm not sure I would call this a betrayal. Unless you voted for them.

During and after the election Carney promised to represent all Canadians yadda yadda. They promised Canadian firearm owners fair compensation. Now they're slashing funding in half to try and manipulate Canadians and create an environment of fear - all because they're political cowards.

Anyone who voted Liberal gets to wear this one on their conscience.

 

[Lumber]

So y'all got your email as well, eh?

 

[Halifax Tar]

During and after the election Carney promised to represent all Canadians yadda yadda. They promised Canadian firearm owners fair compensation. Now they're slashing funding in half to try and manipulate Canadians and create an environment of fear - all because they're political cowards.

Anyone who voted Liberal gets to wear this one on their conscience.

All PMs say that. But you and I are the kind of Canadians. So he didn't really mean us.

Of course now I'm hearing Liberals say we should stop the confiscation so we have some guns to fight back with.

 

[Halifax Tar]

So y'all got your email as well, eh?

Are you gloating, or ?

 

[Fishbone Jones]

During and after the election Carney promised to represent all Canadians yadda yadda. They promised Canadian firearm owners fair compensation. Now they're slashing funding in half to try and manipulate Canadians and create an environment of fear - all because they're political cowards.

Anyone who voted Liberal gets to wear this one on their conscience.

Anyone that consistently votes liberal could care less about your guns or problems, other than to steal them from you. Ideologues have no conscience.

 

[Lumber]

Are you gloating, or ?

No, what? No. I got the email about it from the RCMP and based on the flurry of activity on here I assumed you all got it as well.

 

[Lumber]

Anyone that consistently votes liberal could care less about your guns or problems, other than to steal them from you. Ideologues have no conscience.

Disagree. Let's not paint everyone with the same brush.

 

[Jarnhamar]

Listen to this from their site

When the declaration period closes in March 2026, all submissions will be reviewed to determine which will move to the claim submission stage. Only those who have submitted a declaration within this timeframe will be considered eligible for the collection process and compensation.

Really hammering home the fact that compensation isn't guaranteed. They expect the money to run out very fast. I wouldn't be surprised of the $250m is slashed again and gun owners recieve even less.


They want gun owners to register firearms all at once and collect a bunch of info on unregistered firearms. Why would they need to know how many shots it is if they've already deemed it prohibited?

1. To begin, you will need the following information:
   
   • a list of your prohibited firearms that are registeredwith the Canadian Firearms Program, and eligible for compensation, including:
     • firearm reference number (FRN)
     • make
     • model
     • serial number
     • These will be automatically added in your declaration based on Canadian Firearms Program records, but you should verify the information for accuracy.
     • firearm reference number (FRN)
     • make
     • model
     • serial number
     • capacity/shots
     • gauge/calibre
     • barrel length
     • You will need to manually add these to your declaration.

That's a lot of work to maybe get compensation, but guarantee the government knows exactly what you have.

edit - not sure whats going on with formatting and font sizes

 

[Halifax Tar]

Anyone that consistently votes liberal could care less about your guns or problems, other than to steal them from you. Ideologues have no conscience.

I'm really not sure how people can square that circle honestly.

If you're gun owner voting LPC why haven't you just gone to your local PD and handed them in ?

I understand there are more voting issues than firearms but to me it's about private property rights and the Gov being allowed to trample on taxing paying, innocent citizens. It's simply wrong, in my books.

Im not sure how they think I should have to hand in my guns, and still be obligated to defend them. You want to take my property, and then you want me to fight for yours.

I dunno, I'm having and internal struggle...

 

[Halifax Tar]

No, what? No. I got the email about it from the RCMP and based on the flurry of activity on here I assumed you all got it as well.

Apologies.

 

[suffolkowner]

if theres ca 1.3 million registered restricted firearms
only 250 million in compensation
for 136000 firearms so 1800 per seems high either way a lot of RPAL owners are left high and dry, never mind all the OIC banned firearms
such a strange stupid program with no attempt at good faith at all

 

[Furniture]

So y'all got your email as well, eh?

Oddly enough, I haven't yet received an email.. Which makes me wonder if the system is so overloaded that it's slowly working through the list of addresses.

 

[Jarnhamar]

Disagree. Let's not paint everyone with the same brush.

Scale of 1 to 10, how embarassed do you feel right now about this mess?

 

[Halifax Tar]

Oddly enough, I haven't yet received an email.. Which makes me wonder if the system is so overloaded that it's slowly working through the list of addresses.

I thought I heard some will be getting letters too... I could be wrong

 

[Lumber]

Scale of 1 to 10, how embarassed do you feel right now about this mess?

0? Why would I feel embarrassed?

 

[Jarnhamar]

0? Why would I feel embarrassed?

This is a pretty big Liberal and progressive win, no?

 

[Lumber]

This is a pretty big Liberal and progressive win, no?

Depends if you think restrictions on gun ownership is progressive (I don't), whether you think restricting gun ownership is a 'small L' liberal foundational policy (I don't), and whether you think restricting gun ownership is a "healthy" policy for the "big L" Liberals (I don't). The only way this is a win is purely of the basis of "we said we'd do it and we did it". Regardless, what's it have to do with me and whether or not *I" am embarrassed?

 

[QV]

This is a pretty big Liberal and progressive win, no?

I see this as just one step. A next step could be to ban certain kinds of vehicles to the general masses. Unless you have a demonstrated business need, no gas guzzling pick-up truck for you - buy this Chinese made EV instead. Climate crisis and all.

 

[Halifax Tar]

I see this as just one step. A next step could be to ban certain kinds of vehicles to the general masses. Unless you have a demonstrated business need, no gas guzzling pick-up truck for you - buy this Chinese made EV instead. Climate crisis and all.

I definitely think they believe vehicle restrictions are in the future.

 

[suffolkowner]

Depends if you think restrictions on gun ownership is progressive (I don't), whether you think restricting gun ownership is a 'small L' liberal foundational policy (I don't), and whether you think restricting gun ownership is a "healthy" policy for the "big L" Liberals (I don't). The only way this is a win is purely of the basis of "we said we'd do it and we did it". Regardless, what's it have to do with me and whether or not *I" am embarrassed?

its not progressive but it might appeal to the "progressive" wing of the party
I dont see how only apportioning enough money for 10% of the registered restricted firearms is a policy win