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The Great Gun Control Debate- 2.0

You've confuse me, which admittedly is easy.

Are you saying that since 2020 the RCMP and it's officers haven't lost 122 handguns, 55 shotguns, 23 rifles, 3 submachine guns, and 2 machine guns



Are you engaged much with the firearms community ?

I ask because the various underlying organizations do all kinds of classes and events to showcase positive use of firearms.

One also has to remember there is a cohort in Canada, who doesn't believe in any type of private firearms ownership. And no exposure to positive firearms usage or employment will change that. And most of that cohort is in the LPC and NDP ranks.
I’ll give you an example. Ten pistols are transitioned to police dog search items. Sgt Dingus doesn’t remove the item from inventory as deactivated and converted. Then the inventory is run- ten pistols are missing! Two years later they are accounted for but for the year they are lost.

There are a ton of things like this where firearms are passing in and out of inventories and they are immediately scored as lost or missing. Placed on CPIC all in an effort to appear accountable to the public but they see what they want to see.

I have very good first hand knowledge of this system and how we score firearms and where we lose them.

That said, again, we also straight up lose firearms. And cops lose theirs in public bathrooms. We are not blameless.
 
Most of the extortion shootings shown on the news are done with handguns. PAL or not, they shouldn't be able to legally access any handgun, or newly prohibited long guns. They are illegal firearms. Not having a PAL makes zero difference to the offenders. They are still going to get and use illegal guns and shoot up neighbourhoods.

Anyone on a visa shouldn't be able to even access our firearms program.
 
I’ll give you an example. Ten pistols are transitioned to police dog search items. Sgt Dingus doesn’t remove the item from inventory as deactivated and converted. Then the inventory is run- ten pistols are missing! Two years later they are accounted for but for the year they are lost.

There are a ton of things like this where firearms are passing in and out of inventories and they are immediately scored as lost or missing. Placed on CPIC all in an effort to appear accountable to the public but they see what they want to see.

I have very good first hand knowledge of this system and how we score firearms and where we lose them.

That said, again, we also straight up lose firearms. And cops lose theirs in public bathrooms. We are not blameless.
I was there for the bathroom incident. That turned into a long assed day….
 
I can’t wait for the class action lawsuit for proper payment if this does all happen. You can’t just declare property illegal and not compensate for it as much as the Liberals seem to think they can.

The ‘limited time frame’ and ‘limited funds available’ is just scare tactics to try and force compliance.
 

self defence back on the table?


I can’t wait for the class action lawsuit for proper payment if this does all happen. You can’t just declare property illegal and not compensate for it as much as the Liberals seem to think they can.

The ‘limited time frame’ and ‘limited funds available’ is just scare tactics to try and force compliance.
exactly when the government has taken other property from me they had to compensate me and an arbitrator was appointed to determine value
 
I can’t wait for the class action lawsuit for proper payment if this does all happen. You can’t just declare property illegal and not compensate for it as much as the Liberals seem to think they can.

The ‘limited time frame’ and ‘limited funds available’ is just scare tactics to try and force compliance.
They’re not Liberals in the old sense.

They are closet Communists.
 
I can’t wait for the class action lawsuit for proper payment if this does all happen. You can’t just declare property illegal and not compensate for it as much as the Liberals seem to think they can.

The ‘limited time frame’ and ‘limited funds available’ is just scare tactics to try and force compliance.
This is the part I think that is driving a fair amount of non-registration at this time. Why register when you might get nothing. If I'm getting nothing back, I might as well cut the rifle up myself and at least have that satisfaction.
 
This is the part I think that is driving a fair amount of non-registration at this time. Why register when you might get nothing. If I'm getting nothing back, I might as well cut the rifle up myself and at least have that satisfaction.
There is also property they have already declared they refuse to pay for (such as AR-15 uppers, which is a substantial amount of value in). This could get very expensive if people choose to hold their legs to the fire.
 
This is the part I think that is driving a fair amount of non-registration at this time. Why register when you might get nothing. If I'm getting nothing back, I might as well cut the rifle up myself and at least have that satisfaction.
Except that that, itself, is illegal unless reported to a peace officer. (CCC s. 106)
 
I can’t wait for the class action lawsuit for proper payment if this does all happen. You can’t just declare property illegal and not compensate for it as much as the Liberals seem to think they can.

The ‘limited time frame’ and ‘limited funds available’ is just scare tactics to try and force compliance.
If that's the plan the best COA is to register and force the underfunding right out into the open. Call the bluff.

A- you can't make a claim on a class action without attesting to ownership of the impacted property, and specifying what said property is - so pursuit of the class action effectively supplies the government with a registry anyway

B- After October 30th, unless the guns from said claim have already been surrendered or destroyed with a receipt, making the claim is essentially an invitation to be charged with illegally possessing a prohibited firearm
 
If that's the plan the best COA is to register and force the underfunding right out into the open. Call the bluff.

A- you can't make a claim on a class action without attesting to ownership of the impacted property, and specifying what said property is - so pursuit of the class action effectively supplies the government with a registry anyway

B- After October 30th, unless the guns from said claim have already been surrendered or destroyed with a receipt, making the claim is essentially an invitation to be charged with illegally possessing a prohibited firearm
Destroy the property in October, with recording and then sue for the value of the property. I still have the receipts for the property.

In my case I have a registered AR-15. They know I have it, there is no just hide option, which even if available I wouldn’t take as I do follow the law as stupid as it is.

Even if you had a bunch of individuals take the government to small claims court, imagine how much the court costs would add up for say even 5k small claims cases which the government must represent itself at.
 
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