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The Russian Military Merged Thread- Navy

The new Gorshkov class frigate has been delayed due to problems with its SAM's.

http://nationalinterest.org/blog/the-buzz/russias-answer-the-aegis-missile-defense-system-big-trouble-17199

There have long been reports that the ongoing delays with the commissioning of the Admiral Gorshkov frigate have to do with defects in its air defense systems. These were thought to be primarily related to problems with integration of the Poliment Redut air defense missile system. The Poliment system was designed to be Russia’s answer to AEGIS, with four phased array antennas that are able to track 16 targets at the same time. The Redut system consists of four or eight vertical launch systems that launch three types of missiles. The 9M100 is the short-range missile, with a range of up to 15km. The 9M96M is the medium-range missile, with a range of 40-50km. Finally, the 9M96 long-range missile is supposed to have a range of up to 150km.
 
A new SLBM for the Husky class SSBNs?

Navy Recognition

Russia ordered the development of a new SLBM submarine-launched ballistic missile

Russia’s defense industry is developing a sophisticated submarine-launched ballistic missile (SLBM), according to the Izvestia daily. The Makeyev State Missile Center has landed a contract for the development of a new ballistic missile. In all probability, the missile is intended to equip future fifth-generation submarines (Huksy-class).
 

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tomahawk6 said:
Russia's ace in the whole,its small auxiliary submarine force.Deep diving subs armed with ballistic missiles.One of these ships is the Losharik,which can dive several thousand meters.They are not operated by the Navy.


https://www.yahoo.com/finance/news/most-shadowy-part-russias-navy-162100226.html

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In the past, vessels able to dive miles underwater were used for research purposes, but Russia's Losharik is carried by a converted SSBN ballistic-missile submarine.

basically it carries a specialist sub in lieu of the missiles. It's tasks are likely to take out listening systems, telecommunication, rescue and potential to deploy mines in deep water that could later be activated. 
 
Pics of mobile coastal defense artillery units at the link below:

Navy Recognition

Russia to Activate a Coastal Defense Division Across from Alaska in 2018

The Russian Defense Ministry is planning the activation of a coastal defense division in Chukotka in 2018, the minister, Sergei Shoigu, has told journalists. "A coastal defense division is planned for activation in the Chukotka area of operations in 2018," he said.

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Priboi class LHDs??  ???

Navy Recognition

Krylov: Russian Navy needs four general-purpose LHD amphibious assault ships

The Russian Navy is in need of four versatile amphibious assault ships, of which one is needed for the standing naval force in the Mediterranean, Yuri Yeryomin, chief, Military-Technical Cooperation Dept., Krylov State Research Center, believes.
     
"The Northern Fleet needs a ship like that, and the Pacific Fleet needs two. Given the growing importance of the Mediterranean basin, where we have a standing naval force, one ship should be afforded to the Black Sea Fleet, even though she is unnecessary to the fleet itself. There is no sense in building a ship in the class for the Baltic Fleet either," Yeryomin said at the Army 2016 forum.

The Krylov Center has worked out the concept of the Priboi amphibious landing ship with an estimated displacement of 23,000 tons. The ship is to carry 900 Marines with their kit and an air wing of 16 assault helicopters.
 
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The UK has suddenly woke up to the revolutionary design of the Armata.Maybe the next gen tank that the West build will be more like Armata or perhaps better.

http://www.newsmax.com/Newsfront/russian-tank-armata-revolutionary-design/2016/11/06/id/757323/

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Maybe an antigravity tank

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Russia’s Naval Battle Group Moves to Syria: Demonstrating Power Projection Capability

NATO is concerned about the movement of Russian naval battle group on its way to the Mediterranean.

The ships are being carefully monitored by NATO ships and aircraft.

Media in NATO countries have raised ballyhoo about it.

The reaction is negatively emotional.

The ships’ movement is covered like an unexpected event, though the news was first announced this summer.

Perhaps, many believed that Russia’s maritime power projection capability should not be taken seriously. Now those who thought so are proven wrong.

Reuters cited a diplomat saying on condition of anonymity


«They are deploying all of the Northern fleet and much of the Baltic fleet in the largest surface deployment since the end of the Cold War».

«This is not a friendly port call. In two weeks, we will see a crescendo of air attacks on Aleppo as part of Russia’s strategy to declare victory there», the diplomat said.

The Russian aircraft carrier Admiral Kuznetsov is sailing to Syria to serve as a platform for carrying out airstrikes against terrorists until at least February 2017. The ship can carry more than 50 aircraft. This time the air group’s configuration includes 15 Sukhoi Su-33 all-weather air superiority jets and Mikoyan MiG-29K/KUB multirole fighters, and 10 Kamov Ka-52K, Ka-27, and Ka-31 helicopters.

The NATO diplomat’s affirmation that “all of the Northern Fleet” joined by Baltic Fleet ships is on the way to the Mediterranean is an exaggeration, to put it mildly. The flattop is escorted by seven other ships as part of battlegroup, including Pyotr Velikiy nuclear battlecruiser, two large anti-submarine warships – the Severomorsk and Vice-Admiral Kulakov – and four support vessels.

They will join some 10 other Russian vessels already off Syria. The Baltic Fleet ships are not going to the Mediterranean. Two new Steregushchiy class Project 20380 corvettes –Boikiy and Stoikiy – just joined the group for joint exercises in the Northern Sea – nothing special, it’s a routine procedure for an ocean going navy.

Russian Zvezda TV channel reported that several submarines would probably move from the Atlantic to escort the battle group.

Strategic aviation will boost the group’s air cover capability while on the move.

True, the Air Space Forces have shouldered the burden of the operation in Syria striking most of the targets with aircraft either based in Syria or flying from bases in Russia itself. But the Navy also has a role to play in the war effort. The operation in Syria has highlighted advances in integration among the branches of the military.

The Navy provided sealift, as well as long-range air defense with the S-300 system carried by Slava-class cruiser Moskva, the Black Sea Fleet’s flagship, in the first half of the campaign. Much has been said about the demonstrated capability of Russian warships to fire long range cruise missiles at land targets in Syria from both the Caspian Sea and the Mediterranean. So far, the naval missions have been mainly carried out by the Black Sea Fleet. The group sailing to Syria is homeported in the Northern Fleet.

This will be the first ever combat deployment of Admiral Kuznetsov and the battlecruiser – the largest surface ship in the world, excluding aircraft carriers. Deployed near the Syrian shore, the multi-mission naval group will beef up the air strike power by increasing the number of jets and provide extra capabilities to counter air and submarine threats. Sea-based MIG-29K warplanes will also go through their first combat trial.

The carrier’s naval aircraft may test the new X-38 missiles in combat action. Unlike NATO ships of the same type, Admiral Kuznetsov is well armed with anti-ship, air defense, artillery and anti-submarine warfare systems. Russia is the only country in the world with such a heavily armed aircraft carrier, which does not need many escort ships – it can defend itself against a wide range of threats. More importantly, when the battle group reaches Syria, the Russian Navy will rival the firepower of the US Sixth Fleet in the region.

Few nations in the world possess the capability to deploy an aircraft carrier group at great distances from their shores. It makes Russia a member of the elite club to include the US and France and, to a limited extent, India and China. Some countries have amphibious and other air-capable ships, that can launch some aircraft, but they are no match for aircraft carriers.

Other nations will closely watch the Admiral Kuznetsov’s performance. India will reportedly shortly announce a tendering procedure for building its fourth aircraft carrier. This year, the Krylov State Research Centre, a Russian shipbuilding institute, held talks with Indian partners about eventually buying a version of Moscow’s future nuclear-powered carrier (image left), known as Project 23000E.

The project was first revealed to the public in June at the Army-2015 show near Moscow, where a scale model of the ship was exhibited. Russia will have many more chances if Admiral Kuznetsov and its sea-borne aircraft prove to be effective in combat conditions. If signed, the deal will become a boon for Russia’s ship-building industry.

Russian warships became a very rare sight after the dissolution of the Soviet Union. Overseas deployments were marked as signal events because of their rarity. Those days have become history now with the Navy ensign, the St. Andrew’s Cross, increasingly seen in the world’s harbors as a sign of Russia’s clearly visible expanded ocean presence.

Before Syria the Russian Navy had already acquired combat experience fighting pirates in the Indian Ocean near the Somalia’s coast. Today, the nation’s naval power is on the rise making great strides ahead to showcase drastic advances in its ability to carry out expeditionary operations.
 
Russia's Squall torpedo is once again in the news.Very fast.Very noisy.It may also have been the cause of the Kursk disaster.

http://nationalinterest.org/blog/the-buzz/russia-has-super-torpedo-kills-submarines-200-miles-per-hour-18917


Imagine the sudden revelation of a weapon that can suddenly go six times faster than its predecessors. The shock of such a breakthrough system would turn an entire field of warfare on its head, as potential adversaries scrambled to deploy countermeasures to a new weapon they are defenseless against. While a lull in great power competition delayed the impact of this new technology, the so-called “supercavitating torpedo” may be about to take the world by storm.
 
This article is a rehash of some pretty old information.

While the skval may be useful in a close range knife fight where you pretty much can't miss what you are shooting at (they had better not miss, because a very accurate datum has just been created) if there is a dipping helo or an MPA anywhere close, they are dead after taking that shot.

Not the end of the world.
 
Battle of the Atlantic redux--RCN?:

Navy facing heaviest Russian activity since Cold War says First Sea Lord

The Royal Navy is facing its greatest challenge from Russian submarines and warships for more than 25 years, the First Sea Lord has told his sailors.

Adml Sir Philip Jones said the Navy was dealing with the highest level of activity from Vladimir Putin’s fleet since the end of the Cold War, even as it has to make “difficult” cuts to equipment.

The message from the head of the Royal Navy comes as British warships are again being readied to escort the Russian carrier Admiral Kuznetsov past the UK as it returns from its bombing campaign against Syrian rebels.

But naval sources said high-profile deployments by Russia’s surface fleet were of far less concern than a sharp increase in Russian submarine missions in waters north of Scotland.

British frigates and submarines, backed by Nato allies, are waging an increasingly intense cat-and-mouse game trying to find and track the Russian vessels.

Russia analysts fear the jump in submarine activity to levels not seen since the 1980s is accompanied by increased efforts to spy on Britain’s nuclear deterrent vessels, based at Faslane.

In a New Year message to the Navy, Sir Philip said: “In northern Europe and the Baltic, we are responding to the highest level of Russian naval activity since the end of the Cold War.”..

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The frigate HMS Kent shadowing the Russian submarine Stary Oskol Credit: MoD

Last year:

USN “Admiral Warns: Russian Subs Waging Cold War-Style ‘Battle of the Atlantic’”–and RCN?
https://cgai3ds.wordpress.com/2016/06/03/mark-collins-usn-admiral-warns-russian-subs-waging-cold-war-style-battle-of-the-atlantic-and-rcn/comment-page-1/

Mark
Ottawa
 
Russia is working on a new 100 megaton Tsunami nuke. :eek:

http://www.nextbigfuture.com/2017/03/russias-developing-100-megaton-dirty.html

"The Russian government daily Rossiyskaya Gazeta reported that to achieve ‘extensive radioactive contamination' the weapon ‘could envisage using the so-called cobalt bomb, a nuclear weapon designed to produce enhanced amounts of radioactive fallout compared to a regular atomic warhead,'" Schneider said.

Retired Air Force Gen. Robert Kehler, former commander of the U.S. Strategic Command, has said development of the underwater nuclear strike vehicle is one element of a "troubling" Russian strategic nuclear buildup.

Rep. Mike Rogers (R., Ala.), chairman of the House subcommittee on strategic forces, has said that the Russians assert the nuclear drone submarine will be used to target coastal areas and inflict "unacceptable damage to a country's territory by creating areas of wide radioactive contamination that would be unsuitable for military, economic, or other activity for long periods of time."
 
Legitimate question...

Wouldn't a weapon designed to maximize radiation-related damage & radioactive fallout actually have significant negative effects worldwide?

If we look at the aftermath of Fukushima, we've found evidence of radioactive contamination/isotopes even in waters here in Canada.  And that was from a reactor that, as far as I know, was permanently damaged & unable to be restarted.

If the damage from this type of incident can still be found creeping up throughout the rest of the world several years later, wouldn't a nuclear weapon such as this also have an adverse effect on Russia also?  (Water flows, wind blows...only a matter of time until your breathing & drinking your own radioactive fallout)

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Things like supercavitating torpedoes, massive nuclear weapons and ultra deep diving submariens seem almostr to be artifacts of the Cold War being trotted out yet again to confuse or demoralize Western audiences. Supercavitation has been u8nder active investigation by the USN as well, including such things as specially shaped bullets allowing helicopters to fire at targets (like mines) underwater. I recall a flurry of articles coming out in the 2000's(?) touting supercavitation as the "next big thing", but practical issues like guiding the beast once it has entered the bubble still seem to defy practical solutions.

Massive devices like the Tsar Bomba are huge resource hogs with fairly limited utility (if the lead casing had been replaced by a uranium one, the estimated yield would have been 100 megatons, but the bomber could barely carry it and escape the blast as it was. Apparently the largest "real" weapons in the Russian inventory were 20 megaton ICBM warheads carried on a regiment of SS-18 "Satan" missiles, who's sole military purpose was to turn Cheyenne Mountain into Cheyenne lake.

Ultra fast and ultra deep diving Russian submarines have excited naval observers since the "Alpha" class submarine in the late 1970's, but they have long been retired and replaced by fairly conventional SSN's, suggesting the gains were rather marginal compared to the costs associated with these boats.

Anyway, people looking for Russian military porn can always pull up NextBigFuture to see the flurry of new systems being announced by Russia. One can only wonder how this is being paid for as a minimum, since Russia's GDP is about the same as Italy. More sensible announcements, like Russia is rebuilding their T-90 tank fleet to maintain the striking power of their armed forces without the expense of buying new Armata tanks or other things like the PAK-FA stealth fighter being delayed yet again because of deficient engines don't seem to get quite the same headlines or levels of attention, somehow....
 
Thucydides said:
Things like supercavitating torpedoes, massive nuclear weapons and ultra deep diving submariens seem almostr to be artifacts of the Cold War being trotted out yet again to confuse or demoralize Western audiences. Supercavitation has been u8nder active investigation by the USN as well, including such things as specially shaped bullets allowing helicopters to fire at targets (like mines) underwater. I recall a flurry of articles coming out in the 2000's(?) touting supercavitation as the "next big thing", but practical issues like guiding the beast once it has entered the bubble still seem to defy practical solutions.

Massive devices like the Tsar Bomba are huge resource hogs with fairly limited utility (if the lead casing had been replaced by a uranium one, the estimated yield would have been 100 megatons, but the bomber could barely carry it and escape the blast as it was. Apparently the largest "real" weapons in the Russian inventory were 20 megaton ICBM warheads carried on a regiment of SS-18 "Satan" missiles, who's sole military purpose was to turn Cheyenne Mountain into Cheyenne lake.

Ultra fast and ultra deep diving Russian submarines have excited naval observers since the "Alpha" class submarine in the late 1970's, but they have long been retired and replaced by fairly conventional SSN's, suggesting the gains were rather marginal compared to the costs associated with these boats.

Anyway, people looking for Russian military porn can always pull up NextBigFuture to see the flurry of new systems being announced by Russia. One can only wonder how this is being paid for as a minimum, since Russia's GDP is about the same as Italy. More sensible announcements, like Russia is rebuilding their T-90 tank fleet to maintain the striking power of their armed forces without the expense of buying new Armata tanks or other things like the PAK-FA stealth fighter being delayed yet again because of deficient engines don't seem to get quite the same headlines or levels of attention, somehow....

:goodpost:

Every year seems to have it's revolutionary weapon in the spotlight, but the ones that actually seem to be purchased and used seem to be much more evolutionary.
 
First the A2/AD threat from China and now its Russia's turn to carve out their domains to deny those areas to NATO navies. The US or any of its allies could do the same in reverse. The Turks dont have the money or weapons to deny Russia,I suspect thats where NATO comes in. But we want a Turkey that will be a partner noy when it suitd them.

http://nationalinterest.org/feature/russia-turkey-the-black-sea-a2-ad-arms-race-19673

While the Chinese A2/AD “bubble” in the South China Sea gives headaches to the United States and its allies in the Asia-Pacific region, further to the north, the newest Russian “bubble” is about to go online against Japan in the disputed Kuril Islands. Meanwhile, on the other end of Eurasia, in Russia’s Kaliningrad enclave, another A2/AD zone challenges NATO’s position in Eastern Europe.

Now, two more Russian “bubbles” in the Black Sea and Syria are threatening Turkey and NATO’s southeastern flank.



 
New Yasen-class SSNs--not SLCMs, possible threat to North America and worry for NORAD; seven in all to be built:

Russia's Most Powerful Nuclear Attack Submarine Ever Is Almost Ready for Sea

Russia is set to launch its second Yasen-class nuclear-powered attack submarine on March 30. Called Kazan, the new vessel is an upgraded Project 885M design that is in many ways much more capable than the lead ship of the class, K-560 Severodvinsk.

"Kazan is expected to be rolled out and put afloat on March 30," a Russian defense source told the Moscow-based TASS news agency.

The Russian Navy will take delivery of Kazan in 2018. Once the vessel is operational, she will be the most formidable enemy submarine that the U.S. Navy has ever faced. “It’s probably the most capable nuclear powered submarine out there fielded by a potential adversary,” Center for Naval Analyses Russian military affairs specialist Michael Kofman told The National Interest.

Indeed, Kazan is expected to be substantially improved over her older sister, the Severodvinsk...

“[Severodvinsk] is Russia’s first truly multipurpose submarine,” Michael Kofman and Norman Polmar wrote in the U.S. Naval Institute’s Proceedings journal. “The Severodvinsk is capable of antisubmarine, antiship, and land-attack missions. Among the more interesting features are a large bow sonar dome for the Irtysh-Amfora sonar system and an amidships battery of eight vertical-launch cells that can carry 32 Kalibr (SS-N-27/30 Sizzler) or Oniks (SS-N-26 Strobile) cruise missiles. These antiship and land-attack weapons are particularly significant after Russian surface ships and submarines fired long-range mis­siles into Syria in 2016 [emphasis added].”

Russia plans to build a total of seven Project 885M submarines—Novosibirsk, Krasnoyarsk, Arkhangelsk and Perm are currently under construction at the Sevmash shipyards on the White Sea port city of Severodvinsk...

Russia plans to build a total of seven Project 885M submarines—Novosibirsk, Krasnoyarsk, Arkhangelsk and Perm are currently under construction at the Sevmash shipyards on the White Sea port city of Severodvinsk...
http://nationalinterest.org/blog/the-buzz/russias-most-powerful-nuclear-attack-submarine-ever-almost-19775

Graphic of Severodvinsk:

Build Limited Missile Defenses Against Russian, Chinese Strikes: Experts
http://breakingdefense.com/2017/03/build-limited-missile-defenses-against-russian-chinese-strikes-experts/

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Mark
Ottawa

 
Plus on SSBN Borei-class front:

Russia to Launch 1st Project 955A SSBN Submarine Knyaz Vladimir in August-September 2017

The Project 955A Borei-A class nuclear-powered ballistic missile submarine Knyaz Vladimir will be floated out in August or September 2017, a source in Russia’s defense industry told TASS.

"The fourth Borei-class submarine is planned to be put afloat in August or September 2017," the source said in reply to the relevant question.

The submarine Knyaz Vladimir was laid down in 2012. It will be the fourth out of eight Project 955 nuclear-powered ballistic missile submarines and the first vessel built under improved project 955A. Russia’s Navy has already received three Project 955 submarines. The submarines Knyaz Oleg and Generalissimo Suvorov were laid down in 2014. The submarines Emperor Alexander III and Knyaz Pozharsky were laid down in 2015 and 2016, respectively. Each submarine carries 16 Bulava (NATO reporting name: SS-NX-32) intercontinental ballistic missiles.

A source in Russia’s defense industry told TASS earlier that the submarine Knyaz Vladimir would join the Navy in 2018 or one year later than planned.

The submarine was expected to be delivered to the Navy in 2017...
http://www.navyrecognition.com/index.php/news/defence-news/2017/march-2017-navy-naval-forces-defense-industry-technology-maritime-security-global-news/4988-russia-to-launch-1st-project-955a-ssbn-submarine-knyaz-vladimir-in-august-september-2017.html

Mark
Ottawa
 
Did someone forget to tell the Russians that ASW is dead?  >:D
 
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Masters of the Arctic: Russia to Permanently Station Submarines in Icy North


Russian combat submarines have returned to the Arctic region, where they will increase their presence in the near future, Rear Admiral Viktor Kochemazov, the head of the combat training department of the Russian Navy, told the Russian newspaper Krasnaya Zvezda.

In an interview with the Russian newspaper Krasnaya Zvezda, Rear Admiral Viktor Kochemazov, the head of the combat training department of the Russian Navy, said that the next few years will see Russian battle submarines increasing their presence in the Arctic region.

Developing the Arctic Ocean basin is one of the main tasks set by the Russian Commander-in-Chief, a task that Kochemazov said will be resolved by stationing Russian submarines there on a permanent basis.

Kochemazov noted that after a long pause, the advanced Russian nuclear powered submarines have returned to the Arctic Ocean, including the Borey- and Yasen-class multipurpose ballistic missile submarines.

He recalled that the Kalibr missile systems were earlier successfully used against the terrorist group Daesh in Syria.

"I want to note that the development and testing of new types of weapons is underway; in this vein, we are not lagging behind the NATO countries, and in some respects we even surpass them," Kochemasov said.

Separately, he noted that in order to improve the professional training of submarine crews, competitions are regularly held among Russian Navy units, in what is expected to add significantly to the combat capability of the Russian submarines.
 
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