Trump administration 2024-2028

[Brad Sallows]

I guess it is time to find some new facts then

Some correct and verifiable ones, at least, preferably reported according to universally applied criteria. Not enough information driving public policy is subjected to the rigour of scientific method (ie. independent review and verification). This is natural - people like to do new things, not go over someone else's work. Governance is too important for that.

 

[Quirky]

The premise stands: A senior police official was manipulating stats to make it appear crime was down.

Democrat Mayors Report Violent Crime Down 40% Since They Redefined ‘Violent’ And ‘Crime’

U.S. — Despite claims by President Donald Trump that American cities are being overrun by criminals, Democrat mayors across the country reported that violent crime was actually down 40% since they redefined the words "violent" and "crime".

babylonbee.com

 

[PPCLI Guy]

Democrat Mayors Report Violent Crime Down 40% Since They Redefined ‘Violent’ And ‘Crime’

U.S. — Despite claims by President Donald Trump that American cities are being overrun by criminals, Democrat mayors across the country reported that violent crime was actually down 40% since they redefined the words "violent" and "crime".

babylonbee.com

As a change up from a satire site, there is this non-partisan source, with a wide range of supporters from across the political spectrum.

Council on Criminal Justice

To build on Brad's point, note that many cities report no homicides, or no violent crimes etc which seems a little unlikely....the issue seems to be self-reporting, as captured in Annex A of the report

 

[QV]

Then why didn't you write that rather than apparently repeating some random, unattributed (and incorrect) comment. Were you trying to sound almost "presidential" or just emulating the practice of not bothering about facts?

Keep yelling at the clouds while searching high and low for fly shit in pepper, nobody cares.

 

[PPCLI Guy]

Keep yelling at the clouds while searching high and low for fly shit in pepper, nobody cares.

Pot this is kettle.

You are black over.

 

[Remius]

Keep yelling at the clouds while searching high and low for fly shit in pepper, nobody cares.

Significant difference between the actual chief and a subordinate.

 

[dapaterson]

Significant difference between the actual chief and a subordinate.

No, no, pretty sure that a Cpl in the tool crib at Cold Lake has the same authorities as the CDS.

 

[Brad Sallows]

Significant difference between the actual chief and a subordinate.

The bones of the issue was whether it happened or not, rather than whodunnit.

"I'm going to ignore/deprecate the foundational point of your evidence because you got this detail wrong."

 

[dapaterson]

The bones of the issue was whether it happened or not, rather than whodunnit.

"I'm going to ignore/deprecate the foundational point of your evidence because you got this detail wrong."

Who took the action is foundational, not a mere detail.

 

[QV]

No, no, pretty sure that a Cpl in the tool crib at Cold Lake has the same authorities as the CDS.

Significant difference between the actual chief and a subordinate.

It actually happened. Data was manipulated to represent lower crime and published as such. It doesn't matter if it was the chief or an inspector or the clerk. It occurred and there was an outcome.

You two really having trouble with that concept?

 

[dapaterson]

It actually happened. Data was manipulated to represent lower crime and published as such. It doesn't matter if it was the chief or an inspector or the clerk. It occurred and there was an outcome.

You two really having trouble with that concept?

The concept that the chief, on being informed of the issue, addressed it?

 

[Remius]

It actually happened. Data was manipulated to represent lower crime and published as such. It doesn't matter if it was the chief or an inspector or the clerk. It occurred and there was an outcome.

You two really having trouble with that concept?

Not at all. You seem to have difficulty accepting the concept you were wrong.

 

[KevinB]

No, no, pretty sure that a Cpl in the tool crib at Cold Lake has the same authorities as the CDS.

Well to be fair, several US new networks reported it was the Chief at first.

 

[PPCLI Guy]

No, no, pretty sure that a Cpl in the tool crib at Cold Lake has the same authorities as the CDS.

To say nothing of a SNCO in Cold Lake, whose powers are unlimited

 

[Brad Sallows]

Who took the action is foundational, not a mere detail.

When government functionaries are misleading the public, that's the story. It's not a tale of the life of so-and-so, in which the action is a detail.

 

[FJAG]

When government functionaries are misleading the public, that's the story. It's not a tale of the life of so-and-so, in which the action is a detail.

So Trump and his cabinet?

Asking for a friend.

Oh. I really need a break from this thread. I think I'll just go back to making napkin forces of the army. Tilting at windmills; yelling at clouds.

 

[HavokFour]

Well that's certainly one way to cook the books, just stop releasing numbers.

Trump’s pick to lead labor stats agency could pause monthly jobs report over accuracy concerns

Heritage Foundation economist E.J. Antoni, tapped to lead Bureau of Labor Statistics, calls monthly jobs data unreliable after recent job downward revision.

www.foxbusiness.com

 

[CBH99]

Well that's certainly one way to cook the books, just stop releasing numbers.

Trump’s pick to lead labor stats agency could pause monthly jobs report over accuracy concerns

Heritage Foundation economist E.J. Antoni, tapped to lead Bureau of Labor Statistics, calls monthly jobs data unreliable after recent job downward revision.

www.foxbusiness.com

To be fair, the same can be said about Carney's government here, re immigration and employment stats (2 seperate issues as far as the monthly numbers are concerned)

Stopped releasing those numbers also

 

[brihard]

To be fair, the same can be said about Carney's government here, re immigration and employment stats (2 seperate issues as far as the monthly numbers are concerned)

Stopped releasing those numbers also

What are you talking about? Where are you getting that those numbers suddenly aren’t being released?

 

[Brad Sallows]

So Trump and his cabinet?

The former, much of the time, certainly.

Oh. I really need a break from this thread. I think I'll just go back to making napkin forces of the army. Tilting at windmills; yelling at clouds.

Redesigning the Canadian constitutional foundation...