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Trump administration 2024-2028

It's the level of outright lying they are happy to resort to. Traditionally Democrats and Republicans alike have played-down, exaggerated, obfuscated, ignored, massaged, or told half-truths. The level of flat faced lies, by both sides, was limited. Now it seems like the Republicans are happy to flat faced lie CONSTANTLY. The worst part is that these aren't even cleverly hidden lies, they are very easy to debunk, but they know their supporters won't do an ounce of due diligence and try to verify then; in fact, the "worse" that the lie makes the Democrats appear, the more likely it is to be believed.
I can assure you that Democrats have also been flat faced lying CONSTANTLY. They don't have a moral advantage.
 
What a time to be alive.



However it is also pointed out that it might be against the law.

Surely this isnt an allusion to the other set $1.00 coins with faces on the continent right? Right? 😂

At least ours are classy enough to have some cool boats and animals on the other side haha.
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Wow, ok here's another one @Brad Sallows. And please, honestly, tell me if I'm wrong.

Mike Johnson held a presser where he held up a placard showing health care spending ad stated:

“You can see the final total there, $192.8 billion of your hard-earned taxpayer dollars that Chuck Schumer and the Democrats want to give back to illegal aliens.”

However, if you look at the placard (who's title reads "The Democrat Continuing Resolution Spends nearly $200 Billion on Healthcare Subsidies for Illegal Immigrants and Other Non-Citizens"), only one of the line items even mentions Illegal Immigrants: Ending Enhanced FMAP for Emergency Care for Illegal Immigrants". This is only $28 Billion. Not $200 Billion. Sure, the PLACARD says this is a list for illegal immigrants and non-citizens, but they put illegal immigrants first and more importantly, Johnson's statement above attributes the entire $200 billion to illegal immigrants.
 
Wow, ok here's another one @Brad Sallows. And please, honestly, tell me if I'm wrong.
You may be right; I'm not going to research it; I'm not going to go hunting for lies; there's no value starting long lists of incorrect statements. They're easy to find.

To back up a bit, much of what I read comes across as ignorance rather than lies. People, including people in government, simply don't know legislative details. What typically happens is this: some staffer or other wonk digs and finds an offensive provision; it gets passed by word of mouth; probably as early as the second- or third-hand hearing it's already mangled. Some staffer/wonk on the other side does the research and produces an "Aha!", and the whole "team" uses that to evade the substance of a legitimate criticism, playing the "if this detail is wrong, everything is wrong" game.

At bottom, on this particular issue it's a fact that some people end up getting care at taxpayer expense, and some are in the country illegally. Republicans are using it as a wedge; the Democrat position on health care is approximately not-one-step-back so they end up defending everything and looking like fools also.

Every day in my reading I usually come across whatever the keynote statements of the day are by politicians on both sides. Often they're so ridiculous, on matters which are approximately common knowledge among politically-interested people, that I don't even have to go searching for such-and-such-an-Act, or other dispositive information - I recognize the false and misleading parts.

At some point at least a few decades back politicians learned that they can bullshit all they want with little or no consequence, and that most people will never learn more than the opening statements of an issue. A story can do a complete 180 and there will still be true believers who don't realize the early reports were wrong. It happens here often enough, and I see it all the time in the fragments people post of news anchor puppets and talking-point panel guests.
 
God this shit drives me batty. Our flag isnt a halloween costume or an accessory. The worst part is the people who do this generally still act like the American stereotype and either make us as Canadians look bad or they just look like liars when Europeans see through it. Ive had the pleasure of making my thoughts well known to some Yank shit-for-brains in Antwerp for this very thing.

An American put it this way, on YouTube,

"When I was in Australia earlier this year, I told people I was Canadian because I just didn't want to get into it."
 
What a time to be alive.



However it is also pointed out that it might be against the law.


Surely this isnt an allusion to the other set $1.00 coins with faces on the continent right? Right? 😂

At least ours are classy enough to have some cool boats and animals on the other side haha.
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So the common ground between Canada and the US will be that we both have a $1.00 coin called the "Loonie?"

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