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He did mention that, but when I asked about re-writing my CFAT, he laughed and said, "Don't worry about it."
University Training Plan NCM (UTPNCM) 2005 - 2018 [Merged]
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I was told that the CFAT is one-third of the score, the personality inventory is one-third of the score, and the remainder is comprised of job knowledge/experience, leadership training/experience, and university credits (and how they apply to the ideal degree for the trade). I'm sure that when it comes down to the final decision, it may not be quite as black-and-white as just looking at the score, but that's what I was told about how the process works.
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Man this is killing me. When I was asked back in February if I had any news yet I used to say I wasn't expecting anything before end of June, beginning of July but deep inside I thought it was going to be earlier than that ! Something struck me yesterday, what about those who are posted/moved to a different city to study. When are they going to know or if that was the first batch of messages we saw end-April ?
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Buddy336 said:
Hey Buddy,
I talked to the PSO this week. I hate to tell you but according to him if you haven't seen a message by now you are probably not selected. Looks like non-selections went out in late July last year. Sorry to be the bearer of bad news...
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Sorry guys, I just got an answer back from DMCPG:
"I am sorry to say that all the offer messages have been sent out and members have accepted. We had to send out the posting messages before July 1st and now we are doing the non-selection messages. They will be sent out shortly."
Better luck next year I guess.
"I am sorry to say that all the offer messages have been sent out and members have accepted. We had to send out the posting messages before July 1st and now we are doing the non-selection messages. They will be sent out shortly."
Better luck next year I guess.
I was appointed to OCdt on the 1st of July, and will be doing OJT at RMC until the 15th of Aug. After Aug 15th it's off to Ottawa to clear in to ULO, leave, and finally to start my engineering program at Carleton on the 3rd of Sept. It's been a very long road to reach this point, but for those that didn't make it, or for future first time applicants, the process is doable. I found the one thing that helped me to achieve success was to research everthing possible about the UTPNCM process, as well as my trades of interest. As for the CFAT, there is not much that can be done. You are really only allowed a couple of attempts, and if you can't score high enough after taking the required amount of university courses for the UT program, you probally won't make it any way. Sorry to put down anybody, but after talking to plenty of PSO's over the years, most people that apply to the UT program normally score about average on the CFAT, and likely achieve the minimum amount required for their trades of interest. The only exceptions are normally the extra aptitude tests required for trades such as ACSO or Pilot. For those trades you really can't study enough to survive the physical and mental challenges that flying requires; you either have it or you don't. Personally I think you are more likely to achieve success in this program by both taking several University level courses, covering a wide breath of topics, and as many leadership based courses as you can possible be loaded on. As for OPME's, I haven't taken a single one, and from what I've seen they are a complete waste of time, unless your planning on going to RMC to study. As for those that have applied several times over the years, I would suggest changing your trades of choice, as the majority of applicants apply for Log O, PSO, and the least likely routes to success MPO and Int O. As for Pilot, the majority of applicants that make it into this trade fail out of pilot training after they complete their degrees. This means that if you don't have a degree such as engineering to fall back on, you better get comfortable with trades such as Infantry. I'm not making this up, I'm in the Air Force, I've seen plenty of Pilot candidates fail out of the program. Finally for candidates interested in IntO or MPO, unless you originated in either Int OP or MP before applying, the PSO interview phase is probably going to go miserably. Really there are plenty of UT applicants applying for these two trades that come from the NCM equivalent trades. This means that they have job related experience, which easily carries over into the equivalent officer trades. You would be surprised by how much that single fact sways the selection board. At last my rant comes to an end, hopefully this will help someone in the future.
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Good day everyone,
I just had a few questions pertaining to the "NCM to Officer" transition.
I have been in the Canadian Forces for a little over four years now, I'm only twenty-four, so I'm still quite young, eager and exploring opportunities available to me in the CF. I am interested in eventually transitioning over from an "NCM" to an Officer, although, I recently heard that there have been several changes to some of the programs such as "UTP-NCM", as well what you can and can't be endorsed for when you submit an "ILP".
At the moment, I am working as aircrew and I love every aspect of working on an operational aircraft. My ultimate goal would be to have a "MOC" transfer over to Pilot, so what are my best options at this point?
I was talking to a Pilot from my SQN, he does not have a Bachelor degree, although he is a fully-functional, working Pilot, flying on a day-to-day basis. From what I understood, he was taking some sort of program called "CEOTP"? He apparently has twelve years to attain a Bachelor degree, but he will be reimbursed by the CF upon successful completion. He must complete the degree on his own time too.
Are there programs that can only be taken if you're a civilian signing on into the Military? Such as: ROTP, CEOTP? Or are all of those programs and more offered to NCMs as well?
Thanks in advance for the help!
I just had a few questions pertaining to the "NCM to Officer" transition.
I have been in the Canadian Forces for a little over four years now, I'm only twenty-four, so I'm still quite young, eager and exploring opportunities available to me in the CF. I am interested in eventually transitioning over from an "NCM" to an Officer, although, I recently heard that there have been several changes to some of the programs such as "UTP-NCM", as well what you can and can't be endorsed for when you submit an "ILP".
At the moment, I am working as aircrew and I love every aspect of working on an operational aircraft. My ultimate goal would be to have a "MOC" transfer over to Pilot, so what are my best options at this point?
I was talking to a Pilot from my SQN, he does not have a Bachelor degree, although he is a fully-functional, working Pilot, flying on a day-to-day basis. From what I understood, he was taking some sort of program called "CEOTP"? He apparently has twelve years to attain a Bachelor degree, but he will be reimbursed by the CF upon successful completion. He must complete the degree on his own time too.
Are there programs that can only be taken if you're a civilian signing on into the Military? Such as: ROTP, CEOTP? Or are all of those programs and more offered to NCMs as well?
Thanks in advance for the help!
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Can you or someone post some of the details so I can get the broad idea of it. University courses are something I want to pursue this time around. I should be back in the army any day now, though they've been saying that for awhile now.
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CANFORGEN 138/13 CMP 057/13 211154Z AUG 13
2014 UNIVERSITY TRAINING PLAN FOR NON-COMMISSIONED MEMBERS (UTPNCM) COMPETITION
UNCLASSIFIED
REFS: A. CFAO 9-13 - UNIVERSITY TRAINING PLAN - NON COMMISSIONED MEMBERS (UTPNCM)
B. HTTP://CMP-CPM.FORCES.MIL.CA/DGMC/ENGRAPH/ISS(UNDERSCORE)S(UNDERSCORE)UTPNCM(UNDERSCORE)E.ASP?OPENSUB(EQUAL SIGN)33 - DGMC UTPNCM WEBSITE
C. HTTP://CMP-CPM.FORCES.MIL.CA/DGMP/DPGR/ENGRAPH/REPORTS/EDUSTD (UNDERSCORE)E.ASP?SEC(EQUAL SIGN)2(AT SIGN)CMPNT(EQUAL SIGN)REGF(AT SIGN)ORDER(EQUAL SIGN)MOSID(AT SIGN)SORT(EQUAL SIGN)ASC - MOSID ENTRY STANDARDS
D. DAOD 5049-1 - OBLIGATORY SERVICE
E. ADM(HR-MIL) INSTRUCTION 05-05 - THE NEW CF REGULAR FORCE TERMS OF SERVICE
F. HTTP://CMP-CPM.FORCES.MIL.CA/HEALTH-SANTE/PD/CFP-PFC-154/ AN-E-ENG.ASP - CFP 154 ANNEX E - MINIMUM MEDICAL STANDARDS FOR OFFICERS/NCMS
G. DAOD 5023-2 - PHYSICAL FITNESS PROGRAM
H. LFCO 24-02, PARA 13 - PHYSICAL FITNESS
I. CFAO 11-6 - COMMISSIONING AND PROMOTION POLICY - OFFICERS, REGULAR FORCE
J. HTTP://CMP-CPM.FORCES.MIL.CA/HEALTH-SANTE/PD/POL/4000-21-ENG.ASP - PERIODIC AND OTHER HEALTH ASSESSMENTS - PERIODS OF VALIDITY
K. CFAO 9-12 - REGULAR OFFICER TRAINING PLAN
EFFECTIVE IMMEDIATELY THE 2014 UNIVERSITY TRAINING PLAN FOR NON-COMMISSIONED MEMBERS (UTPNCM) IS OPEN FOR COMPETITION IAW REF A. THE PURPOSE OF THE UTPNCM IS TO DEVELOP SELECTED CANDIDATES FOR SERVICE AS CAREER OFFICERS IN THE REGULAR FORCE (REG F). CANDIDATES SELECTED FOR THE UTPNCM WILL ATTEND RMC OR A CANADIAN UNIVERSITY
THE FOLLOWING OCCUPATIONS ARE OPEN FOR THE 2014 UTPNCM COMPETITION (THE LIST IS SUBJ TO CHANGE WITHOUT NOTICE DEPENDING ON SERVICE REQUIREMENTS):
00178 ARMD
00179 ARTY
00180 INF
00181 ENGR
00182 ACSO
00183 PLT
00184 AEC
00185 AERE
00187 EME
00189 CONST ENGR
00189 CONST ENGR - FIRE PROTECTION SPECIALIST
00192 HCA
00194 PHARM
00195 NURSE
00207 MARS
00208 PSEL
00211 TDEV
00213 INT
00214 MPO
00328 LOG
00340 CELE AIR
00341 SIGS
00344 NCS ENG AND
00345 MS ENG
APPLICANTS FOR 00213 INT AND 00328 LOG WILL REMAIN IN THEIR CURRENT DEU UNLESS REASSIGNED BY DGMC
APPLICANTS ARE ENCOURAGED TO APPLY TO BOTH RMC AND TO OTHER CANADIAN UNIVERSITIES. APPLICANTS ARE EXPECTED TO APPLY TO ACCREDITED CANADIAN UNIVERSITIES WITHIN THEIR GEOGRAPHIC LOCATION AND THAT OFFER PROGRAMS COMPATIBLE WITH THE MOSID ENTRY STANDARDS OUTLINED AT REF C. PREFERENCE WILL BE GIVEN TO AN ACADEMIC INSTITUTION IN THE GEOGRAPHIC LOCATION WHERE APPLICANTS ARE POSTED AT THE TIME OF APPLICATION. A LIST OF CANADIAN UNIVERSITIES IS AVAILABLE AT ANNEX B OF REF K. FINAL DECISION ON THE ACADEMIC INSTITUTION WILL BE MADE BY DMCPG 5
ELIGIBILITY CRITERIA:
THE UTPNCM ELIGIBILITY CRITERIA ARE OUTLINED AT REFS A AND B. GIVEN THE PURPOSE OF THE UTPNCM, THE CO S COMMENTS SHOULD EMPHASIZE THE OFFICER POTENTIAL OF CANDIDATES WRT THEIR LEADERSHIP ABILITY AND OFFICER-LIKE QUALITIES
RANK. AN APPLICANT MUST BE OF CPL RANK (SUBSTANTIVE) OR ABOVE BY 13 DEC 13, CLOSING DATE OF THE COMPETITION. CPL RANK (SUBSTANTIVE) REFERS TO A MEMBER WHO HOLDS THE RANK OF CPL AND HAS COMPLETED QL5 OR THE EQUIVALENT APPROPRIATE QUALIFYING COURSE FOR THEIR MOSID
MEDICAL CATEGORY. APPLICANTS MUST HAVE A CURRENT VALID MEDICAL CATEGORY IAW REF J AND POSSESS THE REQUIRED MEDICAL PROFILE FOR THEIR TARGET MILITARY OCCUPATION, AS PER REF F
FITNESS. AS PER REFS G AND H, THE APPLICANTS MUST HAVE A VALID ANNUAL PHYSICAL FITNESS EVALUATION WITH A PASS OR INCENTIVE EXEMPT RESULT
ACADEMIC PROGRAM STANDARDS. MOSID ENTRY STANDARDS OUTLINED AT REF C WILL BE STRICTLY ADHERED TO. WHERE THE UTPNCM ENTRY STANDARD REFERS TO A DEO STANDARD, ONLY THOSE ACADEMIC PROGRAMS CONSIDERED IDEAL (OR PREFERRED) WILL BE SUPPORTED. DISTANCE LEARNING PROGRAMS ARE NOT ACCEPTED
ACADEMIC ELIGIBILITY
(1) MEMBERS COMPLETING THEIR FINAL COURSES IN DEC 13 SO AS TO MEET ELIGIBILITY REQUIREMENTS MAY APPLY TO THE UTPNCM PROGRAM ON CONDITION THAT THEY PROVIDE PROOF OF SUCCESSFUL COMPLETION OF THOSE COURSES TO DMCPG 5-2 NLT 30 JAN 14
(2) PROOF OF UNIVERSITY TRANSFER CREDIT(S) AWARDED BY EACH UNIVERSITY APPLIED TO MUST BE PROVIDED BY 30 JAN 14, VICE 1 JAN OF THE COMPETITION YEAR AS OUTLINED IN REF A PARA 7G
(3) ONLY THE FOLLOWING OPME COURSES MAY BE CREDITED TOWARDS MEETING MINIMUM ACADEMIC ELIGIBILITY REQUIREMENTS:
(A) HIE 208 - CANADIAN MILITARY HISTORY: A STUDY OF WAR AND MILITARY HISTORY 1867 TO THE PRESENT
(B) POE 206 - THE CANADIAN FORCES AND MODERN SOCIETY: CIVICS, POLITICS AND INTERNATIONAL RELATIONS
(C) HIE 275 - SURVEY OF TECHNOLOGY, SOCIETY AND WARFARE, AND
(D) PSE 402 - LEADERSHIP AND ETHICS
(4) MEMBERS MAY SUBMIT AN APPLICATION TO THE UTPNCM WITH ONE OF THE THREE FOLLOWING DOCUMENTS: A. LETTER OF UNCONDITIONAL UNIVERSITY ACCEPTANCE B. LETTER OF ADMISSIBILITY OR C. PROOF OF APPLICATION FROM EACH UNIVERSITY (SHOWING THE SPECIFIC DEGREE PROGRAM) APPLIED TO FOR EACH MOSID THE MEMBER WISHES TO BE CONSIDERED FOR UNDER THE UTPNCM. IF LETTERS OF UNCONDITIONAL UNIVERSITY ACCEPTANCE ARE NOT AVAILABLE AT THE TIME OF APPLICATION, THEY MUST BE SENT DIRECTLY TO DMCPG 5-2 NO LATER THAN 1 JUL 14
IT IS IMPORTANT THAT INFORMATION PROVIDED ON THE APPLICATION FORM (REF B) BE INCLUSIVE AND PRECISE. APPLICANTS MUST INDICATE THE PREFERRED UNIVERSITY, SPECIFIC DEGREE PROGRAM, AND NUMBER OF YEARS IT IS EXPECTED TO TAKE TO COMPLETE THE DEGREE FOR EACH MOSID CHOICE
WAIVERS. REGARDLESS OF WHETHER OR NOT PREVIOUS WAIVERS WERE GRANTED, AN APPLICANT ALREADY POSSESSING A DEGREE THAT IS NOT SUITABLE FOR ANY OF THE CHOSEN MOSIDS MUST REQUEST AND INITIATE AN ACADEMIC REQUIREMENTS WAIVER THROUGH THEIR LOCAL PSO OFFICE SO AS TO BE CONSIDERED ELIGIBLE FOR THIS YEAR S COMPETITION
OBLIGATORY SERVICE (OS). IAW REF D, A MEMBER IS NOT NORMALLY PERMITTED TO INCUR MORE OS PRIOR TO COMPLETION OF ANOTHER PERIOD OF OS. ANY EXCEPTION WILL REQUIRE APPROVAL FROM DGMC. IN SUCH CASES, THE NEW PERIOD OF OS WILL BE ADDED TO THE UNEXPIRED PORTION OF THE PREVIOUS PERIOD OF OS. THE TWO PERIODS WILL BE SERVED CONSECUTIVELY AND IN THE ORDER IN WHICH THEY ARE INCURRED
OTHER MOSID SPECIFIC REQUIREMENTS MAY INCLUDE:
(1) ALL APPLICANTS MUST HAVE COMPLETED MEDICAL BASE-LEVEL SCREENING AT PARA 3 OF THE APPLICATION FORM AT REF B. ALTHOUGH APPLICANTS FROM MOSIDS 00182 ACSO, 00183 PLT, AND 00184 AEC MAY NOT YET HAVE BEEN ASSIGNED THE FINAL AIR FACTOR BY THE CANADIAN FORCES ENVIRONMENTAL MEDICINE ESTABLISHMENT (CFEME), MEDICAL STAFF MUST INDICATE WHETHER THE APPLICANT HAS PASSED THE BASE-LEVEL AIRCREW MEDICAL SCREENING. FOR THOSE APPLICANTS, UNITS MUST ENSURE THEIR DULY COMPLETED MEDICAL FILE, ALONG WITH THE CF 2088, TESTS AND ANNOTATED DOCUMENTS, ARE COURIERED TO THE CANADIAN FORCES ENVIRONMENTAL MEDICINE ESTABLISHMENT (CFEME) TORONTO/AEROSPACE AND UNDERSEA MEDICAL BOARD (AUMB) FOR PROCESSING. FURTHER DETAILS CAN BE OBTAINED BY CONTACTING CFEME TORONTO (CSN) 634-2017 OR (COMM) 416-635-2017
(2) APPLICANTS FOR MOSID 00182 ACSO MUST SUCCESSFULLY COMPLETE THE AIRCREW SELECTION TEST SERIES (ACSO PORTION) ADMINISTERED BY THE LOCAL PSO OFFICE (3) FINAL SELECTION OF MOSID 00183 PLT CANDIDATES WILL BE SUBJECT TO SUCCESSFUL COMPLETION OF ASC AT THE CANADIAN FORCES AIRCREW SELECTION CENTRE (CFASC) AND FURTHER MEDICAL PROCESSING AT CFEME TORONTO. REQUESTS CONCERNING ASC COURSE LOADING WILL BE DIRECTED BY DMCPG 5-2
(4) FINAL SELECTION OF MOSID 00184 AEC CANDIDATES WILL BE SUBJECT TO SUCCESSFUL COMPLETION OF AEC TESTING AT THE CFASC AND FURTHER MEDICAL PROCESSING AT CFEME TORONTO. REQUESTS CONCERNING AEC COURSE LOADING WILL BE DIRECTED TO DMCPG 5-2, AND
(5) FINAL SELECTION OF 00214 MPO NOMINEES WILL BE SUBJECT TO SUCCESSFUL COMPLETION OF THE MILITARY POLICE OFFICER ASSESSMENT CENTRE (MPOAC). REQUESTS CONCERNING MPOAC COURSE LOADING WILL BE DIRECTED BY DMCPG 5-2. REFERENCES AND CRIMINAL BACKGROUND CHECK FOR 00214 MPO ARE NOT REQUIRED
DULY COMPLETED UTPNCM APPLICATIONS ARE TO BE RECEIVED AT DMCPG 5-2 (FORMERLY D MIL C 7) NLT 13 DEC 13 IN ORDER TO BE CONSIDERED FOR THE 2014 UTPNCM COMPETITION. APPLICATIONS RECEIVED AFTER THIS DATE WILL BE RETURNED TO UNITS. AN APPLICATION WILL BE CONSIDERED DULY COMPLETED IF IT INCLUDES ALL THE FOLLOWING DOCUMENTS:
(1) DULY COMPLETED UTPNCM APPLICATION FORM (REF B), INCLUDING CO S LETTER OF RECOMMENDATION IN PART 4 OR ON A SEPARATE COVERING LETTER
(2) COMPLETED STATEMENT OF UNDERSTANDING (DND2830 AT REF B)
(3) DND 2790 SELECTION ASSESSMENT REPORT
(4) UPDATED COPY OF MPRR INCLUDING FITNESS RESULTS
(5) ALL TRANSCRIPTS (HIGH SCHOOL AND POST-SECONDARY), PROOF OF UNIVERSITY TRANSFER CREDIT(S) AWARDED AND PROOF OF COURSE(S) IN PROGRESS
(6) LETTER OF UNCONDITIONAL UNIVERSITY ACCEPTANCE, LETTER OF ADMISSIBILITY, OR PROOF OF APPLICATION FROM EACH UNIVERSITY (SHOWING THE SPECIFIC DEGREE PROGRAM) APPLIED TO - FOR EACH MOSID THE MEMBER WISHES TO BE CONSIDERED FOR UNDER THE UTPNCM AND
(7) UNITS ARE TO INFORM NDHQ DGMC OTTAWA//D MIL C (MEMBER S CAREER MANAGER)// BY MSG, FAX OR E-MAIL WHEN A UTPNCM APPLICATION HAS BEEN DISPATCHED TO DMCPG 5-2
INITIAL OFFERS FOR SUCCESSFUL APPLICANTS SHOULD COMMENCE IN FEB 14. INQUIRIES ON ACTIVE FILES WILL NOT BE ENTERTAINED UNTIL MAY 14. SUCH REQUESTS MUST GO THROUGH THE UNIT CHAIN OF COMMAND
UNITS/APPLICANTS ARE TO CONTACT THEIR LOCAL PSO OFFICE FOR ALL INQUIRIES. ONLY LOCAL PSO STAFF ARE AUTHORIZED TO CONTACT DMCPG 5-2 STAFF REGARDING POLICY AND SELECTION MATTERS
2014 UNIVERSITY TRAINING PLAN FOR NON-COMMISSIONED MEMBERS (UTPNCM) COMPETITION
UNCLASSIFIED
REFS: A. CFAO 9-13 - UNIVERSITY TRAINING PLAN - NON COMMISSIONED MEMBERS (UTPNCM)
B. HTTP://CMP-CPM.FORCES.MIL.CA/DGMC/ENGRAPH/ISS(UNDERSCORE)S(UNDERSCORE)UTPNCM(UNDERSCORE)E.ASP?OPENSUB(EQUAL SIGN)33 - DGMC UTPNCM WEBSITE
C. HTTP://CMP-CPM.FORCES.MIL.CA/DGMP/DPGR/ENGRAPH/REPORTS/EDUSTD (UNDERSCORE)E.ASP?SEC(EQUAL SIGN)2(AT SIGN)CMPNT(EQUAL SIGN)REGF(AT SIGN)ORDER(EQUAL SIGN)MOSID(AT SIGN)SORT(EQUAL SIGN)ASC - MOSID ENTRY STANDARDS
D. DAOD 5049-1 - OBLIGATORY SERVICE
E. ADM(HR-MIL) INSTRUCTION 05-05 - THE NEW CF REGULAR FORCE TERMS OF SERVICE
F. HTTP://CMP-CPM.FORCES.MIL.CA/HEALTH-SANTE/PD/CFP-PFC-154/ AN-E-ENG.ASP - CFP 154 ANNEX E - MINIMUM MEDICAL STANDARDS FOR OFFICERS/NCMS
G. DAOD 5023-2 - PHYSICAL FITNESS PROGRAM
H. LFCO 24-02, PARA 13 - PHYSICAL FITNESS
I. CFAO 11-6 - COMMISSIONING AND PROMOTION POLICY - OFFICERS, REGULAR FORCE
J. HTTP://CMP-CPM.FORCES.MIL.CA/HEALTH-SANTE/PD/POL/4000-21-ENG.ASP - PERIODIC AND OTHER HEALTH ASSESSMENTS - PERIODS OF VALIDITY
K. CFAO 9-12 - REGULAR OFFICER TRAINING PLAN
EFFECTIVE IMMEDIATELY THE 2014 UNIVERSITY TRAINING PLAN FOR NON-COMMISSIONED MEMBERS (UTPNCM) IS OPEN FOR COMPETITION IAW REF A. THE PURPOSE OF THE UTPNCM IS TO DEVELOP SELECTED CANDIDATES FOR SERVICE AS CAREER OFFICERS IN THE REGULAR FORCE (REG F). CANDIDATES SELECTED FOR THE UTPNCM WILL ATTEND RMC OR A CANADIAN UNIVERSITY
THE FOLLOWING OCCUPATIONS ARE OPEN FOR THE 2014 UTPNCM COMPETITION (THE LIST IS SUBJ TO CHANGE WITHOUT NOTICE DEPENDING ON SERVICE REQUIREMENTS):
00178 ARMD
00179 ARTY
00180 INF
00181 ENGR
00182 ACSO
00183 PLT
00184 AEC
00185 AERE
00187 EME
00189 CONST ENGR
00189 CONST ENGR - FIRE PROTECTION SPECIALIST
00192 HCA
00194 PHARM
00195 NURSE
00207 MARS
00208 PSEL
00211 TDEV
00213 INT
00214 MPO
00328 LOG
00340 CELE AIR
00341 SIGS
00344 NCS ENG AND
00345 MS ENG
APPLICANTS FOR 00213 INT AND 00328 LOG WILL REMAIN IN THEIR CURRENT DEU UNLESS REASSIGNED BY DGMC
APPLICANTS ARE ENCOURAGED TO APPLY TO BOTH RMC AND TO OTHER CANADIAN UNIVERSITIES. APPLICANTS ARE EXPECTED TO APPLY TO ACCREDITED CANADIAN UNIVERSITIES WITHIN THEIR GEOGRAPHIC LOCATION AND THAT OFFER PROGRAMS COMPATIBLE WITH THE MOSID ENTRY STANDARDS OUTLINED AT REF C. PREFERENCE WILL BE GIVEN TO AN ACADEMIC INSTITUTION IN THE GEOGRAPHIC LOCATION WHERE APPLICANTS ARE POSTED AT THE TIME OF APPLICATION. A LIST OF CANADIAN UNIVERSITIES IS AVAILABLE AT ANNEX B OF REF K. FINAL DECISION ON THE ACADEMIC INSTITUTION WILL BE MADE BY DMCPG 5
ELIGIBILITY CRITERIA:
THE UTPNCM ELIGIBILITY CRITERIA ARE OUTLINED AT REFS A AND B. GIVEN THE PURPOSE OF THE UTPNCM, THE CO S COMMENTS SHOULD EMPHASIZE THE OFFICER POTENTIAL OF CANDIDATES WRT THEIR LEADERSHIP ABILITY AND OFFICER-LIKE QUALITIES
RANK. AN APPLICANT MUST BE OF CPL RANK (SUBSTANTIVE) OR ABOVE BY 13 DEC 13, CLOSING DATE OF THE COMPETITION. CPL RANK (SUBSTANTIVE) REFERS TO A MEMBER WHO HOLDS THE RANK OF CPL AND HAS COMPLETED QL5 OR THE EQUIVALENT APPROPRIATE QUALIFYING COURSE FOR THEIR MOSID
MEDICAL CATEGORY. APPLICANTS MUST HAVE A CURRENT VALID MEDICAL CATEGORY IAW REF J AND POSSESS THE REQUIRED MEDICAL PROFILE FOR THEIR TARGET MILITARY OCCUPATION, AS PER REF F
FITNESS. AS PER REFS G AND H, THE APPLICANTS MUST HAVE A VALID ANNUAL PHYSICAL FITNESS EVALUATION WITH A PASS OR INCENTIVE EXEMPT RESULT
ACADEMIC PROGRAM STANDARDS. MOSID ENTRY STANDARDS OUTLINED AT REF C WILL BE STRICTLY ADHERED TO. WHERE THE UTPNCM ENTRY STANDARD REFERS TO A DEO STANDARD, ONLY THOSE ACADEMIC PROGRAMS CONSIDERED IDEAL (OR PREFERRED) WILL BE SUPPORTED. DISTANCE LEARNING PROGRAMS ARE NOT ACCEPTED
ACADEMIC ELIGIBILITY
(1) MEMBERS COMPLETING THEIR FINAL COURSES IN DEC 13 SO AS TO MEET ELIGIBILITY REQUIREMENTS MAY APPLY TO THE UTPNCM PROGRAM ON CONDITION THAT THEY PROVIDE PROOF OF SUCCESSFUL COMPLETION OF THOSE COURSES TO DMCPG 5-2 NLT 30 JAN 14
(2) PROOF OF UNIVERSITY TRANSFER CREDIT(S) AWARDED BY EACH UNIVERSITY APPLIED TO MUST BE PROVIDED BY 30 JAN 14, VICE 1 JAN OF THE COMPETITION YEAR AS OUTLINED IN REF A PARA 7G
(3) ONLY THE FOLLOWING OPME COURSES MAY BE CREDITED TOWARDS MEETING MINIMUM ACADEMIC ELIGIBILITY REQUIREMENTS:
(A) HIE 208 - CANADIAN MILITARY HISTORY: A STUDY OF WAR AND MILITARY HISTORY 1867 TO THE PRESENT
(B) POE 206 - THE CANADIAN FORCES AND MODERN SOCIETY: CIVICS, POLITICS AND INTERNATIONAL RELATIONS
(C) HIE 275 - SURVEY OF TECHNOLOGY, SOCIETY AND WARFARE, AND
(D) PSE 402 - LEADERSHIP AND ETHICS
(4) MEMBERS MAY SUBMIT AN APPLICATION TO THE UTPNCM WITH ONE OF THE THREE FOLLOWING DOCUMENTS: A. LETTER OF UNCONDITIONAL UNIVERSITY ACCEPTANCE B. LETTER OF ADMISSIBILITY OR C. PROOF OF APPLICATION FROM EACH UNIVERSITY (SHOWING THE SPECIFIC DEGREE PROGRAM) APPLIED TO FOR EACH MOSID THE MEMBER WISHES TO BE CONSIDERED FOR UNDER THE UTPNCM. IF LETTERS OF UNCONDITIONAL UNIVERSITY ACCEPTANCE ARE NOT AVAILABLE AT THE TIME OF APPLICATION, THEY MUST BE SENT DIRECTLY TO DMCPG 5-2 NO LATER THAN 1 JUL 14
IT IS IMPORTANT THAT INFORMATION PROVIDED ON THE APPLICATION FORM (REF B) BE INCLUSIVE AND PRECISE. APPLICANTS MUST INDICATE THE PREFERRED UNIVERSITY, SPECIFIC DEGREE PROGRAM, AND NUMBER OF YEARS IT IS EXPECTED TO TAKE TO COMPLETE THE DEGREE FOR EACH MOSID CHOICE
WAIVERS. REGARDLESS OF WHETHER OR NOT PREVIOUS WAIVERS WERE GRANTED, AN APPLICANT ALREADY POSSESSING A DEGREE THAT IS NOT SUITABLE FOR ANY OF THE CHOSEN MOSIDS MUST REQUEST AND INITIATE AN ACADEMIC REQUIREMENTS WAIVER THROUGH THEIR LOCAL PSO OFFICE SO AS TO BE CONSIDERED ELIGIBLE FOR THIS YEAR S COMPETITION
OBLIGATORY SERVICE (OS). IAW REF D, A MEMBER IS NOT NORMALLY PERMITTED TO INCUR MORE OS PRIOR TO COMPLETION OF ANOTHER PERIOD OF OS. ANY EXCEPTION WILL REQUIRE APPROVAL FROM DGMC. IN SUCH CASES, THE NEW PERIOD OF OS WILL BE ADDED TO THE UNEXPIRED PORTION OF THE PREVIOUS PERIOD OF OS. THE TWO PERIODS WILL BE SERVED CONSECUTIVELY AND IN THE ORDER IN WHICH THEY ARE INCURRED
OTHER MOSID SPECIFIC REQUIREMENTS MAY INCLUDE:
(1) ALL APPLICANTS MUST HAVE COMPLETED MEDICAL BASE-LEVEL SCREENING AT PARA 3 OF THE APPLICATION FORM AT REF B. ALTHOUGH APPLICANTS FROM MOSIDS 00182 ACSO, 00183 PLT, AND 00184 AEC MAY NOT YET HAVE BEEN ASSIGNED THE FINAL AIR FACTOR BY THE CANADIAN FORCES ENVIRONMENTAL MEDICINE ESTABLISHMENT (CFEME), MEDICAL STAFF MUST INDICATE WHETHER THE APPLICANT HAS PASSED THE BASE-LEVEL AIRCREW MEDICAL SCREENING. FOR THOSE APPLICANTS, UNITS MUST ENSURE THEIR DULY COMPLETED MEDICAL FILE, ALONG WITH THE CF 2088, TESTS AND ANNOTATED DOCUMENTS, ARE COURIERED TO THE CANADIAN FORCES ENVIRONMENTAL MEDICINE ESTABLISHMENT (CFEME) TORONTO/AEROSPACE AND UNDERSEA MEDICAL BOARD (AUMB) FOR PROCESSING. FURTHER DETAILS CAN BE OBTAINED BY CONTACTING CFEME TORONTO (CSN) 634-2017 OR (COMM) 416-635-2017
(2) APPLICANTS FOR MOSID 00182 ACSO MUST SUCCESSFULLY COMPLETE THE AIRCREW SELECTION TEST SERIES (ACSO PORTION) ADMINISTERED BY THE LOCAL PSO OFFICE (3) FINAL SELECTION OF MOSID 00183 PLT CANDIDATES WILL BE SUBJECT TO SUCCESSFUL COMPLETION OF ASC AT THE CANADIAN FORCES AIRCREW SELECTION CENTRE (CFASC) AND FURTHER MEDICAL PROCESSING AT CFEME TORONTO. REQUESTS CONCERNING ASC COURSE LOADING WILL BE DIRECTED BY DMCPG 5-2
(4) FINAL SELECTION OF MOSID 00184 AEC CANDIDATES WILL BE SUBJECT TO SUCCESSFUL COMPLETION OF AEC TESTING AT THE CFASC AND FURTHER MEDICAL PROCESSING AT CFEME TORONTO. REQUESTS CONCERNING AEC COURSE LOADING WILL BE DIRECTED TO DMCPG 5-2, AND
(5) FINAL SELECTION OF 00214 MPO NOMINEES WILL BE SUBJECT TO SUCCESSFUL COMPLETION OF THE MILITARY POLICE OFFICER ASSESSMENT CENTRE (MPOAC). REQUESTS CONCERNING MPOAC COURSE LOADING WILL BE DIRECTED BY DMCPG 5-2. REFERENCES AND CRIMINAL BACKGROUND CHECK FOR 00214 MPO ARE NOT REQUIRED
DULY COMPLETED UTPNCM APPLICATIONS ARE TO BE RECEIVED AT DMCPG 5-2 (FORMERLY D MIL C 7) NLT 13 DEC 13 IN ORDER TO BE CONSIDERED FOR THE 2014 UTPNCM COMPETITION. APPLICATIONS RECEIVED AFTER THIS DATE WILL BE RETURNED TO UNITS. AN APPLICATION WILL BE CONSIDERED DULY COMPLETED IF IT INCLUDES ALL THE FOLLOWING DOCUMENTS:
(1) DULY COMPLETED UTPNCM APPLICATION FORM (REF B), INCLUDING CO S LETTER OF RECOMMENDATION IN PART 4 OR ON A SEPARATE COVERING LETTER
(2) COMPLETED STATEMENT OF UNDERSTANDING (DND2830 AT REF B)
(3) DND 2790 SELECTION ASSESSMENT REPORT
(4) UPDATED COPY OF MPRR INCLUDING FITNESS RESULTS
(5) ALL TRANSCRIPTS (HIGH SCHOOL AND POST-SECONDARY), PROOF OF UNIVERSITY TRANSFER CREDIT(S) AWARDED AND PROOF OF COURSE(S) IN PROGRESS
(6) LETTER OF UNCONDITIONAL UNIVERSITY ACCEPTANCE, LETTER OF ADMISSIBILITY, OR PROOF OF APPLICATION FROM EACH UNIVERSITY (SHOWING THE SPECIFIC DEGREE PROGRAM) APPLIED TO - FOR EACH MOSID THE MEMBER WISHES TO BE CONSIDERED FOR UNDER THE UTPNCM AND
(7) UNITS ARE TO INFORM NDHQ DGMC OTTAWA//D MIL C (MEMBER S CAREER MANAGER)// BY MSG, FAX OR E-MAIL WHEN A UTPNCM APPLICATION HAS BEEN DISPATCHED TO DMCPG 5-2
INITIAL OFFERS FOR SUCCESSFUL APPLICANTS SHOULD COMMENCE IN FEB 14. INQUIRIES ON ACTIVE FILES WILL NOT BE ENTERTAINED UNTIL MAY 14. SUCH REQUESTS MUST GO THROUGH THE UNIT CHAIN OF COMMAND
UNITS/APPLICANTS ARE TO CONTACT THEIR LOCAL PSO OFFICE FOR ALL INQUIRIES. ONLY LOCAL PSO STAFF ARE AUTHORIZED TO CONTACT DMCPG 5-2 STAFF REGARDING POLICY AND SELECTION MATTERS
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Hi all
I am applying for a UTPNCM. The problem is, that I only want to get into one trade, and this is because of the university program that I am taking.
No other MOSIDs accepts my study, only the INTO, INFO, ARTY, and ARMD
None of those appeal to me, except for the INTO.
Can I only put in my application the INTO?
Can I turn down other MOSIDs if I was offered any?
Thank you
I am applying for a UTPNCM. The problem is, that I only want to get into one trade, and this is because of the university program that I am taking.
No other MOSIDs accepts my study, only the INTO, INFO, ARTY, and ARMD
None of those appeal to me, except for the INTO.
Can I only put in my application the INTO?
Can I turn down other MOSIDs if I was offered any?
Thank you
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I would suggest you research more.
Yes, can only make one choice if that is all you want. (INT O would not be a good choice if that is the only one you want to make.)
Yes, you can turn down an offer.
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Yes, can only make one choice if that is all you want. (INT O would not be a good choice if that is the only one you want to make.)
Yes, you can turn down an offer.
READ
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It's that time of year again. UTPNCM competition messages are out, applications are going in. This is a good forum to share your thoughts, news and plans relating to the program. Personally, I plan on submitting an application for AERE & PSEL (with Concordia as my preferred university). Good luck to all with your applications.
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