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US Election: 2016

milnews.ca said:
Started work on my own page o' links to keep track of the U.S. election - sharing it here in case someone might find it useful.
I've added a few more source links since first sharing -- enjoy!
 
https://www.google.ca/amp/s/amp.cnn.com/cnn/2016/07/22/politics/dnc-wikileaks-emails/index.html?client=ms-android-rogers-ca#

Nearly 20,000 emails sent and received by Democratic National Committee staff members were released Friday by Wikileaks, and some messages are raising questions about the committee's impartiality during the Democratic primary.

One email appears to show DNC staffers asking how they can reference Sanders' faith to weaken him in the eyes of Southern voters. Another seems to depict an attorney advising the committee on how to defend Clinton against an accusation by the Sanders campaign of not living up to a joint fundraising agreement.

The revelation threatened to shatter the uneasy peace between the Clinton and Sanders camps and supporters days before the Democratic convention kicks off next week.

The leaks, from January 2015 to May 2016, feature Democratic staffers debating everything from how to deal with challenging media requests to coordinating the committee's message with other powerful interests in Washington.

The emails were leaked from the accounts of seven DNC officials, Wikileaks said. CNN has not independently established the emails' authenticity.

One email features DNC staffers appearing to ponder ways to undercut Sanders, an insurgent Democrat who had a bitter relationship with party leadership. Sanders supporters charged that the DNC was biased toward Clinton, and Sanders late in the primary endorsed DNC chair Debbie Wassserman Schultz's primary opponent in her Florida congressional race.

On May 5, a DNC employee asked colleagues to "get someone to ask his belief" in God and suggested that it could make a difference in Kentucky and West Virginia. Sanders' name is not mentioned in the note.

"This could make several points difference with my peeps. My Southern Baptist peeps would draw a big difference between a Jew and an atheist," DNC chief financial officer Brad Marshall wrote.

Neither the DNC nor Marshall responded to requests for comment.

But Republican nominee Donald Trump said the emails were proof of the Democrats' "rigged" system, resurfacing an*attack he's leveled against the party before.

"Leaked e-mails of DNC show plans to destroy Bernie Sanders. Mock his heritage and much more. On-line from Wikileakes, really vicious. RIGGED," Trump tweeted Saturday morning.
I don't think those sanders supporters are showing up for clinton.
 
If the Democrats didnt have the Super Delegates Sanders would be the nominee.
 
Trump called the Cleveland Police Chief to thank him and the officers for a safe convention.Its on video. :D

http://fox8.com/2016/07/22/donald-trump-calls-cleveland-police-chief-calvin-williams-to-say-thank-you/
 
tomahawk6 said:
If the Democrats didnt have the Super Delegates Sanders would be the nominee.

Last count that I saw had Clinton with 2,205 pledged delegates plus 602 super delegates while Sanders had 1,846 pledged delegates and 48 super delegates. Either way Clinton's ahead.

:cheers:
 
With the WikiLeaks dump the DNC Chairwoman has resigned.She has also been served with a class action law suit alleging the DNC conspired to rig the primaries.

http://observer.com/2016/06/debbie-wasserman-schultz-served-class-action-lawsuit-for-rigging-primaries/

On June 28, the Miami-based law firm Beck & Lee filed a class action lawsuit against the Democratic National Committee and DNC chair Debbie Wasserman Schultz.

“There are essentially six legal claims we are asserting in this lawsuit on behalf of the composed class members,” said attorney Jared Beck in a YouTube video announcing the lawsuit. “The first is a claim for fraud—against the DNC and Debbie Wasserman Schultz—based on the revelations from the recent Guccifer 2.0 documents purportedly taken from the DNC’s own computer network.” The Guccifer 2.0 documents include internal memos in which the DNC broke legally binding neutrality agreements in the Democratic primaries by strategizing to make Hillary Clinton the nominee before a single vote was cast.
 
And the Democrats thought they were free after Clinton escaped being charged....

Some of them are probably raging after their friendly Wikileaks website attacked them this way. No loyalty among Liberals?
 
What kind of a world is it when the Democratic  Party isn't even subjected to a RICO investigation?  >:D

I hear the mafia is pretty mad at the double standard.
 
One of the other interesting things to come from the Wikileaks emails is just how closely the Legacy media colluded with the DNC; as Glenn Reynolds (Instapundit) says; "Think of them as Democrat operatives with bylines". This is the smoking gun for media bias, but I expect the usual suspects will attempt to spin things with ridiculous claims (i.e. Russian hackers) or simply pretend this isn't out there.

http://sanfrancisco.cbslocal.com/2016/07/22/hilary-leaks-wikileaks-releases-democratic-national-committee-emails/

WikiLeaks’ DNC Email Leak Reveals Off The Record Media Correspondence
July 22, 2016 12:29 PM

KPIX 5's Phil Matier spoke with Hillary Clinton at a campaign stop in Oakland on May 6, 2016. (CBS)
SAN FRANCISCO (CBS) — WikiLeaks released over 20,000 emails on Friday allegedly sent from the accounts of U.S. Democratic National Committee officials, including dozens of off the record media correspondence.

Dubbed the “Hillary Leaks series” by WikiLeaks, the leak is comprised of a searchable database of almost 20,000 emails with over 8,000 attachments and photos from the email accounts of top DNC employees.

Some of the most interesting emails to read are those exchanged by DNC staffers as they decide how to respond to media inquiries, and then their off-the-record and deep background responses to numerous national media outlets. The emails contained off the record correspondence with reporters at the Washington Post, Politico, and the Wall Street Journal, among others.

Many emails in the database were sent from the email accounts of DNC’s Northern California finance director, Robert Erik Stowe, communications director Luis Miranda, national finance director Jordon Kaplan, finance chief of staff Scott Comer, finance director of data & strategic initiatives Daniel Parrish, finance director Allen Zachary and senior advisor Andrew Wright, among others.

The emails, according to WikiLeaks, covers the period from January 2015 through May 25, 2016.

Wikileaks said this is just part one of the Hillary Leaks series.

An internal email from DNC spokesman Eric Walker mocked a Buzzfeed news report analyzing the DNC and the Republican National Committee’s potentially weak cybersecurity.

Another email shows DNC staffers’ fake craigslist job posting made for women who wish to apply to jobs at one of Trump’s organizations. The fake position, titled a Honey Bunny, requires the prospective applicant to, among other tasks, refrain from gaining weight, be open to public humiliation and be alright with groping or kissing by her boss.

A leaked email between NextGen Climate’s vice president of development Jenna Narayanan and Stowe, notes what appears to be the Social Security number of NextGen Climate president and San Francisco resident Tom Steyer. Steyer, a billionaire and liberal climate change activist, founded the Super PAC – Next Gen Climate Action Committee.

Another email between DNC national finance director Jordan Kaplan and DNC’s Northern California finance director Erik Stowe has Kaplan coarsely describing a conference call with President Barack Obama on National Small Business Week as related to “small business ****.”

Additionally, photos of President Barack Obama attending fundraising events earlier this year at private California residences were also in the leaked emails.

Wikileaks has not revealed the source of the leaked emails.


The leak comes just days before the Democratic National Convention in Philadelphia, which runs July 25-28.

On Friday night, hours after the leak surfaced, Hillary Clinton confirmed her running mate to be Virginia Senator Tim Kaine.

By Hannah Albarazi – Follow her on Twitter: @hannahalbarazi.

and for the twofer; Rhetoric vs Dialectic:

https://voxday.blogspot.ca/2016/07/the-importance-of-rhetoric.html

The importance of rhetoric
James Carville explains, in an email released by Wikileaks as part of the #DNCleaks in a note of unknown provenance:

Ideologies aren't all that important. What's important is psychology.

The Democratic constituency is just like a herd of cows. All you have to do is lay out enough silage and they come running. That's why I became an operative working with Democrats. With Democrats all you have to do is make a lot of noise, lay out the hay, and be ready to use the ole cattle prod in case a few want to bolt the herd.

Eighty percent of the people who call themselves Democrats don't have a clue as to political reality.

What amazes me is that you could take a group of people who are hard workers and convince them that they should support social programs that were the exact opposite of their own personal convictions.

- James Carville, Clinton strategist


What Carville is talking about is rhetoric. 80 percent of the people are limited to rhetoric; per Aristotle, they cannot be convinced by information. They can only be moved by an appeal to their emotions or appetites.

UPDATE: The Carville note appears to be a fake being passed around under cover of the DNCleaks; I thought it was a little strange that the wily Carville would come right out and say that. But whether he said it or not, it is true, moreover, it is true of Republicans as well. It is true of everyone and it has been true since Aristotle's day. Most people simply don't speak or think in terms of dialectic.

As for those who think Hillary Clinton is a shoe-in due to demographics, note that the DNC doesn't believe so. And this is a genuine day one DNCleak.

"HRC will go into gen election as vulnerable candidate. Clinton Foundation quid-pro-quo worries are lingering, will be exploited in general."

Translation: she sold out the USA while Secretary of State.
 
Well, if the Republican's convention became a clown show, then the Democrats have started with one.

What a mess.  As much as our politics seem screwed up, it pales in comparison to what is happening south of the border...
 
The democrats are expecting another WikiLeaks document drop,which is probably intended to help Sanders.If Hillary can be knocked out of the running prior to delegate voting,then who knows what can happen ?

http://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2016/07/breaking-wikileaks-drop-another-bomb-dnc-convention/
 
Some of the most interesting emails to read are those exchanged by DNC staffers as they decide how to respond to media inquiries, and then their off-the-record and deep background responses to numerous national media outlets. The emails contained off the record correspondence with reporters at the Washington Post, Politico, and the Wall Street Journal, among others.

It is interesting to see "Reporters" sending their columns to the DNC, before sending to their Editors, to be approved prior to publishing. Not for fact checking of i.e. financial numbers. but approval.
 
Interesting article comparing the two.  I wouldn't say Trump is exactly emulating Putin, but there are some parallels.  Plus, the cover (obviously Photoshopped) photo is both hilarious and slightly nauseating  :-X

...The answers might lie behind the walls of Red Square. America’s arch-capitalist doesn’t just admire Vladimir Putin, he resembles him. From the disdainful attacks on opponents to the promises of renewed national glory, to the manipulation of the media and the appeal to the public’s basest fears, Trump is following the Russian leader’s template. Both men obsess over even the mildest criticism, like to revel publicly in their virility, and choose to focus almost exclusively on outcomes, rather than policy. The apprentice, it appears, is cribbing notes from the master.

http://www.macleans.ca/news/world/trumputin-the-disturbing-parallels-between-donald-trump-and-vladimir-putin/
 
I'll just leave this right here and back away quickly

http://www.npr.org/2016/07/24/487081526/rallies-marches-and-a-fart-in-philadelphia-gets-ready-for-the-dnc

To stand out, you have to be creative. That's why Cheri Honkala with the Poor People's Economic Human Rights Campaign is gathering cases of donated beans in her office. She plans to feed them to protesters on the last night of the convention when Hillary Clinton accepts her party's nomination.

You could say her protest plan is a real gas.

"We thought that this process really stinks," Honkala says. "So we decided to organize a national fart-in." She doesn't like that only two political parties dominate American politics.

:evil:
 
cavalryman said:
.....gathering cases of donated beans in her office. She plans to feed them to protesters on the last night of the convention when Hillary Clinton accepts her party's nomination.
"So we decided to organize a national fart-in."

      A "shining city upon a hill," indeed.    :not-again:
 
PuckChaser said:
Some of them are probably raging after their friendly Wikileaks website attacked them this way. No loyalty among Liberals?
C'mon, we KNOW it was the Russians ...  ;D
Cyber security experts and U.S. officials said on Monday there was evidence that Russia engineered the release of sensitive Democratic Party emails in order to influence the U.S. presidential election.

The FBI said it was investigating a cyber intrusion at the Democratic National Committee (DNC), which has led to discord as the party's convention in Philadelphia opens on Monday to nominate former U.S. secretary of state Hillary Clinton as its candidate.

Although the hacking of the DNC was known to officials and cyber security experts a month ago, the timing of the release of the contents of communications within the party is what is causing concern for U.S. authorities.

A U.S. official involved in the investigation said that the classified information collected on the hack so far "indicated beyond a reasonable doubt that it originated in Russia."

The official, speaking on condition of anonymity, said that the timing of the release of emails "has all the hallmarks of a classic intelligence operation intended to damage a perceived adversary."

The official said, however, that it may be impossible to prove definitively that Russian President Vladimir Putin’s government directed the attack ...

Rifleman62 said:
Some of the most interesting emails to read are those exchanged by DNC staffers as they decide how to respond to media inquiries, and then their off-the-record and deep background responses to numerous national media outlets. The emails contained off the record correspondence with reporters at the Washington Post, Politico, and the Wall Street Journal, among others.
It is interesting to see "Reporters" sending their columns to the DNC, before sending to their Editors, to be approved prior to publishing. Not for fact checking of i.e. financial numbers. but approval.
Is there something in that quote, or in the article in question at all, that says reporters are vetting columns w/the DNC?  I stand to be corrected, but I didn't see that mentioned.

Getting an off-the-record/deep-background answer to an emailed question =/= reporter asking the party "is this piece OK?".

No shortage of media errors to be scrutinized, but let's at least be precise in what we're dinging them for.
 
tomahawk6 said:
The democrats are expecting another WikiLeaks document drop,which is probably intended to help Sanders.If Hillary can be knocked out of the running prior to delegate voting,then who knows what can happen ?

http://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2016/07/breaking-wikileaks-drop-another-bomb-dnc-convention/

All the super delegates are bought and paid for. Hillary will not give up her coronation unless she actually falls dead on the convention stage, the party be damned.

Of course the Bernie Bro's chanting "Lock Her Up" and the resignation of DWS on day one are just two of the talking points that will be quickly passed over by the Legacy Media, since the Democrat Party leadership hasn't approved these stories for release.

Frankly, the only real question about the DNC coverage should be "How many seconds video delay is built into the coverage?", so missteps, gaffes and even outright lies can be airbrushed away before viewers see them.
 
milnews.ca said:

If the FBI investigates they will discover the DNC was "careless" in protecting the server and did not "intentionally" have damaging emails stored on it, and there was "no intent" to sabotage Bernie Sander's campaign or collude with the Legacy Media.....
 
Thucydides said:
Of course the Bernie Bro's chanting "Lock Her Up" and the resignation of DWS on day one are just two of the talking points that will be quickly passed over by the Legacy Media, since the Democrat Party leadership hasn't approved these stories for release.
I guess the media didn't get the DNC's DWS memo ...

Thucydides said:
If the FBI investigates they will discover the DNC was "careless" in protecting the server and did not "intentionally" have damaging emails stored on it, and there was "no intent" to sabotage Bernie Sander's campaign or collude with the Legacy Media.....
So it's the DNC's fault, then?
 
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