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I have heard more than one comment today that runs along the lines of "karma is a bitch".
VAdm Norman - Supply Ship contract: Legal fight
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According to a lengthy story here:
http://www.cbc.ca/news/politics/norman-shipbuilding-leak-1.3939685
VAdm Norman was relieved for leaking classified material concerning some part of a ship building program. Again, unconfirmed at this time.
http://www.cbc.ca/news/politics/norman-shipbuilding-leak-1.3939685
VAdm Norman was relieved for leaking classified material concerning some part of a ship building program. Again, unconfirmed at this time.
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And consider the source. CBC was also the one to officially report that HMCS WINNIPEG hit an American fishing vessel. This being while the ship was tied up alongside the jetty. It's ok for all of us to share what the media is "reporting" but I will believe none of it until we get something official directly from the CDS's office.
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Correction - the story states that be was relieved because it appears that an RCMP investigation that has been underway since mid-2015 is now investigating him. Depending on your predisposition, you can read this either to understand that they're "closing in" on him as a suspect, or to alternately understand that a flailing RCMP investigation has decided that it can't rule anyone out and that they'll investigate everyone systematically from the top down.Old Sweat said:
The story also suggests the leak may have something to do with the Project Resolve supply ship out of Davies. On the basis of what I've seen of the new British management of that yard, I can't say I'm surprised at all - their level of media interaction has screamed "shifty" from the beginning. What I can say I'm personally pretty confident of is that Mark Norman had nothing to do with any leak.
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More details (perhaps) from the Chronicle Herald today. Possibly leaking the statement of requirements to Irving for the CSC bid...
http://thechronicleherald.ca/novascotia/1433665-vice-admiral-mark-norman-dismissal-document-leak-may-stall-irving-ship-work
http://thechronicleherald.ca/novascotia/1433665-vice-admiral-mark-norman-dismissal-document-leak-may-stall-irving-ship-work
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Irving Shipyard products leak all by themselves. They don't need any external assistance for that. Just ask the Coast Guard about the Hero class mid-shore vessels. :nod:
On a more serious note, Am I the only one that find it funny, if true, that the Statement of Requirement that is used to ask providers to propose their "product" would have classified technical annexes that contain further and more precise requirements than those appearing in the documents stating the requirements and that those annexes would not have been divulged to all parties interested in biding - confidentialy of course - but provided none the less.
The Chronicle Herald mentions potential delays due to lawsuit if a single competitor knows those "secret" requirements and tailors its bid to be the only one who matches it, but I can tell you from experience that you will also have long and protracted litigation if you hold a competition in which someone's product is eliminated for failure to meet a requirement that was never divulged to them and that they could have met had they been aware of its existence. No court will consider the setting aside of a bidder's bid to be the result of a fair and transparent competition if that bidder was not given a requirement that had to be met to compete and that he could have met had he known. The whole process would have to start again.
On a more serious note, Am I the only one that find it funny, if true, that the Statement of Requirement that is used to ask providers to propose their "product" would have classified technical annexes that contain further and more precise requirements than those appearing in the documents stating the requirements and that those annexes would not have been divulged to all parties interested in biding - confidentialy of course - but provided none the less.
The Chronicle Herald mentions potential delays due to lawsuit if a single competitor knows those "secret" requirements and tailors its bid to be the only one who matches it, but I can tell you from experience that you will also have long and protracted litigation if you hold a competition in which someone's product is eliminated for failure to meet a requirement that was never divulged to them and that they could have met had they been aware of its existence. No court will consider the setting aside of a bidder's bid to be the result of a fair and transparent competition if that bidder was not given a requirement that had to be met to compete and that he could have met had he known. The whole process would have to start again.
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I think the speculative worry is about leaks out, not leaks in ... ;DOldgateboatdriver said:
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CSC is becoming the new F-35....?
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Good catch! Legal counsel's statement also attached in case you can't clilck thru to Twitter from where you are.Occam said:
Oldgateboatdriver
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Jarnhamar said:National hero
It's a typo. Should have read "notional" hero. It is the CAF we are talking about after all. ;D
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More on the latest ...
- "Canadian vice-admiral denies any wrongdoing after being removed from post" (Toronto Star)
- "Vice-Admiral Mark Norman victim of 'bureaucratic crossfire,' says high-profile lawyer" (CBC)
- "Suspended Canadian admiral brings in prominent lawyer to represent him" (The Canadian Press)
- "Marie Henein hired to defend vice-chief in military leaks investigation" (Globe & Mail)
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