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Volunteer unpaid Militia idea (split from Reserve role thread)

cryco said:
I wasn't looking for paid stuff, the money is irrelevant. I'm just looking to know if there's any way you can do extra stuff on your own time but with army equipment and tools.
So there's no army range where you can go shoot with issued weapons? (firing with my personal rifle is not the same as using a c7) So if your unit is not on exercise, there's nowhere to go?
The unit is empty on non duty weekends?

No, you may not perform unpaid service as a Reservist. There are no iterations of this question that will result in yes.
 
ModlrMike said:
No, you may not perform unpaid service as a Reservist. There are no iterations of this question that will result in yes.

I was talking to a guy who had to 'voluntarily parade' wayyyy back in the 70s. He got screwed on his pension, of course, because they didn't track his time.
 
I was mostly hoping that it would be possible to go practice with the c7 more than the required time on bmq for a reservist. Even if it means paying for the ammo out of pocket.
 
cryco said:
I was mostly hoping that it would be possible to go practice with the c7 more than the required time on bmq for a reservist. Even if it means paying for the ammo out of pocket.

Yeah FULL STOP that ain't ever, never, gonna happen.....

MILNET.CA MENTOR
 
NFLD Sapper said:
Yeah FULL STOP that ain't ever, never, gonna happen.....

MILNET.CA MENTOR

Correct, but the principles of marksmanship do not change.

 
cryco said:
I was mostly hoping that it would be possible to go practice with the c7 more than the required time on bmq for a reservist. Even if it means paying for the ammo out of pocket.

They are classified as "probited weapons" in the Criminal Code and are very tightly controlled.

Thirty-round magazines are also prohibited by the Criminal Code.

You would not be allowed to sign one out, or put your own ammunition through one, and ranges are also very tightly controlled.

Unless you were on duty.

Civilian AR15s are "Restricted Weapons" under the Criminal Code. You can take the course and get a Restricted Possession and Acquisition Licence and buy one, and join a gun club. This would not be cheap, but it would be the closest that you could get.

Wait until you're in and at least semi-trained before bothering.
 
Hamish Seggie said:
Correct, but the principles of marksmanship do not change.

True, then the OP could buy a rifle and go to the local Gun Club and fire off rounds....
 
cryco said:
So if your unit is not on exercise, there's nowhere to go?

There are reserve trades that are more likely than others to be tasked on the exercises of other units; Signals and Medics come to mind. In the past, there have been more requests for these support positions than there have been personnel willing to fill them. It depends on your trade, your location, what the training tempo is for nearby units, and their willingness to plan and request support in a timely manner.

You would be paid by the gaining unit.
 
NFLD Sapper said:
True, then the OP could buy a rifle and go to the local Gun Club and fire off rounds....

Exactly. A Ruger .22 would be a good start.
 
Yes, I could, I have both my permits, am a member at a club but do not own an AR. I've considered it, and probably will end up buying one (no rush), as marksmanship (or the attempt at) is a beautiful thing.
 
cryco said:
Yes, I could, I have both my permits, am a member at a club but do not own an AR. I've considered it, and probably will end up buying one (no rush), as marksmanship (or the attempt at) is a beautiful thing.

Hopefully you don't get one of those clubs that banned "rapid firing".

 
Brasidas said:
There are reserve trades that are more likely than others to be tasked on the exercises of other units; Signals and Medics come to mind. In the past, there have been more requests for these support positions than there have been personnel willing to fill them. It depends on your trade, your location, what the training tempo is for nearby units, and their willingness to plan and request support in a timely manner.

You would be paid by the gaining unit.

thanks for the info. I'm looking to join the combat engineers, so it's probably not as high in demand as the trades you mentioned.
And for the record, I've fired many boxes of rounds out of my 597, I'm not crazy or rich enough to learn on a larger caliber.
 
My question would be: How much disposable income do you have? You want to shoot on your own, I can certainly relate. It is not cheap, but it is possible. I have not heard of many courses or training opportunities in Quebec, but they do exist.

I will tell you this: many people get hung up on using a copy which is as close as possible to the C7. While using an AR15/M16FOW is imperative in my books (for commonality of manual of arms/drills) getting trigger time is the important part.

If you are committed to getting some trigger time on your own, please send me a PM and I will guide you through the initial steps. But no, it won't happen through your unit.
 
cryco said:
thanks for the info. I'm looking to join the combat engineers, so it's probably not as high in demand as the trades you mentioned.
And for the record, I've fired many boxes of rounds out of my 597, I'm not crazy or rich enough to learn on a larger caliber.

Engineers? You should try to get a job with a blasting crew then before you sign up!
 
Hehe, that would be something. It may be a little more complicated to do some blasting on the side than some practice with an AR15.
 
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