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Just a quick question.  Why is corn-on-the-cob red listed?  I understand that corn has low nutritional value but I am ignorant of how it could be detrimental.
 

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I thought this was a porn thread.

So, who's getting hardcore for the express test?
 

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Great post...lots of useful info.

The only thing I would add is that one's LIFESTYLE has alot to do with getting/staying in shape and losing weight.  Eating is only one side of the coin.  It depends on what kind of job you do, what you do in your free time etc etc.

If you work in an office for example, where you sit for 8 hours in front of a computer, and then you go home and watch the boob tube for another few hours...well then you need to shape your diet accordingly...you're burning way less energy...

Same as if you work a seriously labour intensive job (like I do) then you need to similarly shape your diet.  For example, I eat alot of more because I need the energy to burn while I work...add to that going to the gym for 2 hours...

It's not just about going to the gym and eating properly...you also need to factor in what you do for the rest of your day...that will give you a better picture.





 

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I eat EVERYTHING I shouldn't!!!!!

And yet still.. I'm a skinny little bugger
(even lost 5 pounds on the 60 k ruck march on the weekend)

Hurrah to an early death!
 

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SemperFidelis said:
50 grams of pretzels has (approximately)
1g   of fiber
4g protein

Now are you gonna tell me its okay to it eat it (for someone who's trying to lose wight)   because it has a 1g of fiber and 4g of protein...lets never mind that its made from white flour (refined = not good for you) , salt ( water retention )   and has 41g of carbs per same serving... I dont think so.   You can argue every food has nutritional value.   However, for anyone trying to achieve optimal results due to healthy eating and exercising...eating foods with a high thermogenic value, low glycemic index (a measure of blood sugar level), and nutritious as possible often as possible is a must.

No to ketchup because its full of sugar...if you read the ingredients on the back (keep in mind the first ingredient on the list has the highest % and   the last the lowest % )   -This label is the Heinz Tomato Ketchup- Tomato Paste, Liquid Sugar, White Vinegar, Salt, Onion Powder, Spices.
If you want Lycopene...grab a darn tomato.  

As far as antioxidants go...vegetables and fruits that are rich in colours, for example : berries, brocolli, spinach, oranges, mangos,sweet potatoes etc etc etc

You have a long way to go if you think you're going to give me a "talking to" Semper. What your basically trying to push is a low carb diet, and we all know how that works don't we. Small portions of anything will not hurt anybody, dieting or not. If you were to choose a "junk" food, pretzels would probably be #1 on the list. A tablespoon of ketchup has 4g of sugar, hardly detrimental to anyone, unless you're on a low carb diet. The real reason your telling people not to eat carrots or corn is because of carbohydrates. So why didn't you just come out at the start of the thread and say, "this is a low carb plan" It would clear a lot of things up for people. Go reread the part about the carrots before you critize again. But hey what do I know, I'm just a lowly gym rat.
 

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  Hey everyone, here is my addition to this topic.......................Refined sugar, as Camochick said is the devil, when trying to lose weight or get in shape. When I gave up sugar, that was the jump start for me losing 70 pounds!  Most people dont realize that drinking a can of regular soda has at least 10 Tsp. of sugar in it.  Thats liquid  candy!!  My other tip is, if you enjoy salsa, eat is as often as you can!!!!  That has been rated the number one condiment.  Put salsa on your burgers, or chicken or eggs, or whatever you can think of.  Has so many antioxidants and the lypocene that ketchup has.....without any sugar.  For breakfast almost everyday I have a 3 egg omlette( two whites, and one whole) with a small amount of Light cheese and a ton of salsa.  Then a 1/2 cup of all bran cereal with skim milk.  Healthy and filling!!!
  Cheers all
Steve :cdn:
 

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CallOfDuty said:
  Put salsa on your burgers, or chicken or eggs, or whatever you can think of

Ugh...salsa and eggs...we all know what that reminds us of..

so what you're saying is that a coke and a smoke for breakfast would be bad?

I personally don't watch what I eat too often, usually lean towards a Hi-carb diet, interspaced with lots of greens...lots of protein, but I also space it with lots of Rugby and Hockey, both good cardio sports
 

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At work yesterday(in our boredom) we actually looked at the info on the side of a Coke can. 135 calories and 45g of sugar. 45 grams is a freaking lot. I know a woman who changed from pop to water and lost 20Pd's without trying. I guess now i know why. I'm going to stick to my yummy yummy aspertame. hehe >:D
 

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Yup, 45 grams of sugar. My first year of Uni, I drank 12-15cans a day. Do the math. Even if it was 11 cans a day, 11*45 =495grams = approx 1/2 kg. 1Kg = 2.2 lbs, so I had 1.1lbs of sugar intake daily from pepsi/coke alone. Add those tubs of strawberry/bananna candy, takeout food, sour keys... all on a daily basis.
 

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In my younger days I used to work at Mcdonalds. I also ate there twice a day. I can't even imagine the damage i probably did to my body eating that stuff. If you look at their food analysis sheets, you'll find that even the things on the so called healthy eating menu are full of bad things like sugar and sodium(one of their grilled chicken breasts had something like 1000mg's of soduim.)  >:D
 

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I saw "Supersize Me" about a year ago. Since then, I've eaten at MacDonalds twice, and felt like absolute crap within an hour both times.  Scary movie, that one.
 

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I've never seen it, but I want to. I've stopped having the usual with a buddy of mine. We would order the following.

When the McDeal is double cheeseburgers,

Order 4 mcdeals, supersized.

That consisted of 8 cheeseburgers, 4 supersize fries, 4 supersize coke.

So much grub that he had to Get in the back seat and put the front passenger seat down and use it as a table  :eek:
 

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Calvin said:
Just a quick question.   Why is corn-on-the-cob red listed?   I understand that corn has low nutritional value but I am ignorant of how it could be detrimental.

Because corn (maize) has a high gylecmic index. Boiling it causes the starches to break down, which rise the GI significantly (glycemic index).  Generally, when youre trying to lose weight you want to keep the GI as low as possible.  However, as paracowboy stated earlier in the post.

Allow yourself to cheat once in a while. ("Once in a while" is not twice a day, every day.)
 

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Wow fry this is what you put in your body

4 cheesburgers- 1240 calories, 2960mg sodium, 48g of fat, 24 of that saturated and 4 of that trans

2 super size fries- 1040 calories, 660 of sodium, 50g of fat, 10 of that saturated and 12 of it trans fat.

2 cokes- 610 calories, 20mg sodium.

Your grand totals calories- 2890
                        sodium- 3640
                        fat - 98 grams
                        saturated 34 grams
                        trans fat- 16 grams

Kind of makes you thing doesnt it. You ate enough calories and fat to probably last you a day and a half, all in one meal.
 

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Island Ryhno said:
You have a long way to go if you think you're going to give me a "talking to" Semper. What your basically trying to push is a low carb diet, and we all know how that works don't we. Small portions of anything will not hurt anybody, dieting or not. If you were to choose a "junk" food, pretzels would probably be #1 on the list. A tablespoon of ketchup has 4g of sugar, hardly detrimental to anyone, unless you're on a low carb diet. The real reason your telling people not to eat carrots or corn is because of carbohydrates. So why didn't you just come out at the start of the thread and say, "this is a low carb plan" It would clear a lot of things up for people. Go reread the part about the carrots before you critize again. But hey what do I know, I'm just a lowly gym rat.

First of all, nowhere did I say "dont eat carrots or corn because of carbohydrates" if you read properly you would have seen that its due to the glycemic index (which rises as foods are exposed to heat).  NO where did i say uncooked carrots are not bad.  If you re-read the post, perhaps you'll find that theres plenty of foods on the "do eat" list that have carbohydrates that are a) more nutritionally inclined and b) are 'good carbs'.  

Carbs are a must! Especially for an active individual.  

And by the way, if you missed it I'll re-post.  
[quoteThose of you looking for the "Perfect Diet" arent gonna find it here.  These are guildelines and suggestions, that are a) universal b) tried , tested and true c) helped me lose a total of over 100lbs. ][/quote]

 

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ReadyAyeReady said:
If you work in an office for example, where you sit for 8 hours in front of a computer, and then you go home and watch the boob tube for another few hours...well then you need to shape your diet accordingly...you're burning way less energy...

For anyone looking for to lose weight, after being sedentary at the office for 8 hours, I would tell them get lose the boob-tube and get walking, running , the gym.  Any sort of physical activity, sitting on the couch and reaching for the chips not included.
 

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SemperFidelis said:
First of all, nowhere did I say "dont eat carrots or corn because of carbohydrates" if you read properly you would have seen that its due to the glycemic index

Uh then you're giving out advice which you don't even understand. The glycemic index is a ranking of carbohydrates based on their immediate effect on blood glucose (blood sugar) levels. It compares foods gram for gram of carbohydrate. Carbohydrates that breakdown quickly during digestion have the highest glycemic indexes. The blood glucose response is fast and high. Carbohydrates that break down slowly, releasing glucose gradually into the blood stream, have low glycemic indexes.

Uh sounds like the Glycemic INdex is directly related to Carbohydrates to me. But I digress. I will not argue with you anymore. I understand what you're trying to get across.

 

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All I know is, that if I want to lose weight, I'll cut the bad foods, late night eating, and less TV... excercise more frequently!
 

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First of all, nowhere did I say "dont eat carrots or corn because of carbohydrates" if you read properly you would have seen that its due to the glycemic index  

That was poorly stated.  But if you'd like me to dumb it down...sure.

First of all, nowhere did I say "dont eat carrots or corn because of carbohydrates" if you read properly you would have seen that its due to the glycemic index  

I should have elaborated, which I did in pervious posts, what happens when you cook a food.  

AND...these "guidelines and suggestions"  are for people who seriously want to lose weight.  Im done arguing you Island.
 
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