War on Free Speech

[CBH99]

Curious to hear people's opinions on this...

Visa ban for European critics of online harm is first shot in US free speech war

Legislation that seeks to curb harmful content is viewed as a threat to Silicon Valley by many Maga politicians

www.theguardian.com

 

[Colin Parkinson]

It's shows how murky the world is. Social Media does not generally respect national boundaries, countries are generally used to enforcing laws on their turf, but in the internet, where exactly is the "Turf"? Is it the server, or the on the users device? I dislike the UK and EU hate-speech laws, They are to easy to use to bludgeon the population into compliance and very open to abuse by governments, who have a hard time not using a tool to excess when they have unbridled access. I get some of the good intentions, but the road to hell is paved with good intentions. If you are going to have hate speech laws, the onus on government to prove their case must be strictly enforced, with penalties to both the department and individuals involved in any excess enforcement.

 

[McG]

Curious to hear people's opinions on this...

Visa ban for European critics of online harm is first shot in US free speech war

Legislation that seeks to curb harmful content is viewed as a threat to Silicon Valley by many Maga politicians

www.theguardian.com

This is about money and not freedom of speech. The current administration is more than happy to trample speech that it does not like.

https://twitter.com/x/status/2004179124487864828

 

[CBH99]

This is about money and not freedom of speech. The current administration is more than happy to trample speech that it does not like.

https://twitter.com/x/status/2004179124487864828

That's why I floated this out there. Curious to hear the different perspectives on this.

How is it about money??

 

[OldSolduer]

I said a number of years ago free speech is alive and well….

As long as you agree with me!!

 

[mariomike]

If you are going to have hate speech laws, the onus on government to prove their case must be strictly enforced, with penalties to both the department and individuals involved in any excess enforcement.

On the subject of "hate- motivated" enforcement, Toronto Police Hate Crime Unit issued a News Release on Christmas Eve,

https://www.tps.ca/media-centre/news-releases/64869/

Toronto police release image of woman sought in hate-motivated mischief probe - Toronto | Globalnews.ca

Toronto police are asking anyone with information or who knows the identity of the suspect in a hate-motivated mischief investigation to call the authorities.

globalnews.ca

 

[Brad Sallows]

That's why I floated this out there. Curious to hear the different perspectives on this.

How is it about money??

The social media companies want to make money and the EU wants to fine them massively.

 

[Kirkhill]

Meanwhile in the UK

Non-crime hate incidents (thought crimes) will be scrapped. Police will no longer enforce them.

Our betters may be getting the message. The British aristos have always had a sense for when the guillotine was getting too close.

Non-crime hate incidents to be scrapped

Police to use ‘common sense’ instead of sticking with scheme widely criticised for undermining freedom of speech

www.telegraph.co.uk

 

[Kirkhill]

Multi-culturalism trumps free-speech in the EU, the UK, Australia and.... Canada?

Free speech will have to go to preserve multiculturalism

One Australian politician has said the quiet part out loud

www.telegraph.co.uk

We are living a social experiment.

Any tumbrils handy?

 

[Brad Sallows]

Multi-culturalism trumps free-speech in the EU, the UK, Australia and.... Canada?

We are living a social experiment.

Any tumbrils handy?

There is no particularly compelling reason for multi-culturalism to be a goal. Just stop trying to mix liberal and illiberal cultures. When we figure the latter are ready, they can join.

 

[Jarnhamar]

Meanwhile in the UK

Non-crime hate incidents (thought crimes) will be scrapped. Police will no longer enforce them.

Our betters may be getting the message. The British aristos have always had a sense for when the guillotine was getting too close.

Non-crime hate incidents to be scrapped

Police to use ‘common sense’ instead of sticking with scheme widely criticised for undermining freedom of speech

www.telegraph.co.uk

In 2023 police in the UK arrested 32 people per day for online posts. Many of those posts were for causing someone distress or anxiety