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All Things AB Separatism (split fm Liberal Minority Government 2025 - ???)

The local councillor yes and even Goldy whom I have no real fondness for opened up her office so people could come get coffee or charge their phones etc
You’re right; that could be fairly described as a minor natural disaster in the riding. Didn’t hear shit from him.
George was solid! Glad he replaced Goldy as MPP.

PP was invisible…only time I saw him in person was jogging by my house before he moved to Stornaway. He was pretty out of touch with his constituency and never left any lay-back canaries in his mine to chirp warnings as the winds changed. Will be interesting to see the effect of the separatist candidate in the by-election. I bet his win will be 20-25 points lower than the ex-incumbent’s ~80%.
 
Counterpoint: last month I was on a battlefield tour. A woman (52 YOA) on the tour said PP was active and attended events. She liked him.
 
Counter-counterpoint: Clearly there weren’t as many of her type as he thought there were.

In Survivor, it’s called ‘being left out of the vote.’
 
I lived in his riding for seven years, never caught a whiff of him doing or pushing anything local. I’m not saying he never did, just that I’m reasonably attentive and I never noticed it if he did.

I will say in fairness that his constituency assistants did a bang up job helping me sort out a federal survivor benefits issue with Service Canada for a family member of mine.

I've lived in the same house since 2010(ish) and the only political representative I've actually spoken too was an NDP candidate who came buy while I was packing the truck a few years back.

I couldn't pick Lena Metlage Diab out of line up.

The exception is my city counselor. I've interacted with her a few times.
 

And the balancing act begins…
Balancing act, yes but the acting opposition leader who has US citizenship not outright putting out there he is against AB separating (which most pro separation people I've spoken to want AB to join the US) it's becoming the elephant in the room conservatives need to address.

In AB groups are already organizing to try and recall UCP MLA's to potentially force a general election. So far two ridings have begun collecting signatures. With already vacant seats, only 5 MLA's would need to be recalled to potentially force a general election.
 
Balancing act, yes but the acting opposition leader who has US citizenship not outright putting out there he is against AB separating (which most pro separation people I've spoken to want AB to join the US) it's becoming the elephant in the room conservatives need to address.

Oof. There’s a fun bit of the dynamic I hadn’t linked together yet.
 
it's becoming the elephant in the room conservatives need to address.
Unlikely. A "need to address" talking point is usually something invented by people trying to tear a politician or party down. No-one really strained themselves trying to defend Carney against his history of playing "citizen of the world", and the LPC's tendency to lean internationalist/post-nationalist for the past decade has been obvious and did not put them in much danger of "needing to address" it.
 
Balancing act, yes but the acting opposition leader who has US citizenship not outright putting out there he is against AB separating (which most pro separation people I've spoken to want AB to join the US) it's becoming the elephant in the room conservatives need to address.

In AB groups are already organizing to try and recall UCP MLA's to potentially force a general election. So far two ridings have begun collecting signatures. With already vacant seats, only 5 MLA's would need to be recalled to potentially force a general election.
More importantly a gvt in waiting that refuses to condemn separation…
 
More importantly a gvt in waiting that refuses to condemn separation…
This has the risk of becoming the most archetypal example of the CPC pandering unnecessarily for an extra 15-20% of the vote in Alberta that they don’t at all need to win, at the expense of the rest of us asking “what the hell are you doing?”

If the CPC aim to lead Canada there should be zero question about heir opposition to western separatism. It’s not like it would be rocket surgery for them to say “hell no” and then immediately build on it with a constructive message about instead looking to rebuild the relationship so that separatists no longer feel the need. They won’t pull all of them back but they don’t need to. Let the fringe go fringe somewhere. Them walking away doesn’t threaten the CPC at all, but courting them - even tacitly - can and will.
 
This has the risk of becoming the most archetypal example of the CPC pandering unnecessarily for an extra 15-20% of the vote in Alberta that they don’t at all need to win, at the expense of the rest of us asking “what the hell are you doing?”

If the CPC aim to lead Canada there should be zero question about heir opposition to western separatism. It’s not like it would be rocket surgery for them to say “hell no” and then immediately build on it with a constructive message about instead looking to rebuild the relationship so that separatists no longer feel the need. They won’t pull all of them back but they don’t need to. Let the fringe go fringe somewhere. Them walking away doesn’t threaten the CPC at all, but courting them - even tacitly - can and will.
Which if they do it for to long, may kill them in the polls just enough next election cycle to give carney a majority
 
This has the risk of becoming the most archetypal example of the CPC pandering unnecessarily for an extra 15-20% of the vote in Alberta that they don’t at all need to win, at the expense of the rest of us asking “what the hell are you doing?”
A hint maybe of doubling down in his current strategic/tactical approach? After all,once he’s opposition leader again, too easy to go back to opposing, not proposing. I suspect if wax going to broaden his appea, we’d see more of this ..,I
If the CPC aim to lead Canada there should be zero question about heir opposition to western separatism. It’s not like it would be rocket surgery for them to say “hell no” and then immediately build on it with a constructive message about instead looking to rebuild the relationship so that separatists no longer feel the need.
Let’s see how his approach unfolds (or not?) and the results.
 
Conservatives should be expected to support decentralized federation more than progressives. Part of that is taking seriously regional grievances, and the rights of people to exercise some form of self-determination, without panicking and declaring it beyond the pale. And the conservative solution (decentralization/subsidiarity) should be expected to achieve better outcomes for the aim of discouraging separation.
 
Conservatives should be expected to support decentralized federation more than progressives. Part of that is taking seriously regional grievances, and the rights of people to exercise some form of self-determination, without panicking and declaring it beyond the pale. And the conservative solution (decentralization/subsidiarity) should be expected to achieve better outcomes for the aim of discouraging separation.
Yeah, so pretty much what I said about voicing opposition to outright separation, but validating the existence of underlying grievances and steering the conversation to how they would heal that fracture and rebuild relationships. But as a political reality they need to recognize that shying away from rejecting separatism, or anything seen as pandering to it, will bear costs in their support elsewhere in Canada. Those costs will probably have a more detrimental net effect on their electoral prospects than any marginal gain in support among Alberta separatists.
 
If the federal government acted fairly and equitably with the provinces, you wouldn’t have issues of separation. The whole fault lies with the sitting federal party. Not with the provinces or the people that are charged with well being of their constituents. When people are pushed to the wall, are tired of being taken advantage of, while being unfairly blamed by Ottawa for woes of Ottawa's making, when Ottawa ignores their pleas to sit and negotiate, in good faith, they start to feel the only way forward is the nuclear option.

I'm not ready to blame provinces or their gatekeepers for what is essentially a planned coup of the feds to destroy the livelihoods and resources of any province.

Instead of slagging people as being separatists, how about questioning the root cause of the angst and putting it where it belongs. On carney and his caucus of anti development, anti resource, my way or the highway, net zero gang of minor overlords.

While you're asking, question carney's total lack of concern. Ask why he is ignoring this completely while jetting around the world gladhanding his cronies and business contacts. Oh, and let's watch and see if he ignores all of these trade and separation issues, amongst others, and sends everyone on vacation. After all, what could possibly be more important than time off for a group that hasn't sat the House since September.
 
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