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Most likely.
No doubt our Mandarins are white boarding/role playing out a few dozen scenarios for each and every possible or long shot issue that could come out.
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No doubt our Mandarins are white boarding/role playing out a few dozen scenarios for each and every possible or long shot issue that could come out.
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Pure speculation based on nothing.
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They didn't see any light. They're backed into a corner and have been forced.
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And how do you suggest PP may have done against Trump without actually seeing how he does?
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Nobody can know, but you can speculate
Doesn't matter. Canadians chose the LPC and the LPC is what they'll get.
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I certainly hope so. I was partly hoping for another Trudeau victory, but so long as there remains the LPC to carry the Trudeau legacy forward, I'd be satisfied with that.
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I'm so incredibly glad we don't hit F5 on the civil service with each change of government.
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Except... very clearly... PMMC is taking a full 180 on a lot of Trudeau-era policies, to the rejoicing of Blue and Red voter alike.
JT's Liberalism was an exception, not the norm. This fact alone means the CPC and PP's "Just Like Justin" blustering was just that. If Poilievre doesn't win the by-election, he is cooked. Even still, if he comes into the Fall session with the same old rhetoric, his leadership review will be the final nail.
The situation changed. Time to go back to the drawing board.
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The Trudeau government won three elections... that isn't just a blip. And the Carney lead Trudeau era government just won again. PMMC said he'd 180 on a lot of things, I'm waiting... we'll see.
As to "if PP doesn't win the by-election he's cooked..." lol no shit. The CPC will certainly have to adjust to beat the natural Canadian governing party. And the LPC will need to adjust to avoid a USA losing patience with Canada.
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Carney is still an internationalist, citizen-of-the-world, pro-green, Europhilic, top-down-technocratic type of guy. He just doesn't wear a bleeding heart on his sleeve. If big-project infrastructure and military improvement are obviously looking like damp squibs and the federal fiscal position is still a sea of red ink in a couple of years, nothing useful changed.
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2015 - Canadians were tired of Stephen Harper. ABC was the rallying cry. Trudeau was a breath of fresh air compared to the stagnant farts the CPC had accumulated.
2019 - LPC only won a minority, with large thanks to Scheer fumbling the ball. Not the sweeping victory you think it to be.
2021 - COVID election. Much like the Stanley Cup winner that year, doesn't count as a real victory. Also is a minority government.
3 victories, yes, but... these aren't any more of an indicator of Canadians being happy with the LPC, or just unimpressed with the CPC. I would say 2025's election kept with the trend of "enh.... I would rather not."
Consumer Carbon Tax repeal- Done
NATO pledge for 5% of GDP - Done
Bill C-5 - Done
Bill C-6 and C-7 - Done.
Major support from the CPC on all these bills - Done
This is all in just shy of 3 months of being in office. Keep waiting I guess.
They have had over a decade to do so and have flopped spectacularly in all occasions. They don't need to adjust to the LPC, they need to demostrate to the Canadian voter that they are a viable alternative.
PP is not one. O'Toole might very well have been. Scheer is not.
I think PMMC's plays so far have been fruitful. Especially if the DST play is a sign of things to come.
Basically we elected a progressive conservative. He’s grabbed the party apparatus by the scruff and is dragging it somewhat back to center: Blue grits who’ve felt increasingly out of place are happy, and red Tories who’ve been wondering WTF has happened to their party are looking across the aisle and seeing much more tolerable policy being proposed or enacted.
LPC and CPC have each been drifting outwards, and Carney has finally seen a big gap to run them up the middle.
I’m sure Poilievre will win the byelection, but I’m skeptical he can come close to recapturing the same amount of momentum and support that he had before. He’ll have a few months to prove otherwise to the party before the leadership review. Hopefully CPC are introspective to recognize they need to change the channel. Time will tell whether Poilievre is capable of doing that or if he just stays his errant course.
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