Alberta government thread

[MilEME09]

It's doesn't roll of the togue like PC does.

Ergo, the party is doomed to failure.

going to depend how well they can organize, and fund raise. The UCP war machine is large, with deep pocket doners, if any of these recalls lead to a by election, they will have a chance to run candidates, if not they have until 2027 to get things in order.

 

[Kirkhill]

Interesting little factoid:

"Let’s face it — we don’t trust the Liberals in this part of the world. We haven’t since they tried to dupe us more than a century ago by pretending to bring telephone service to rural Alberta. In reality, they were just dumping thousands of wooden poles in prominent small-town locations right before a provincial election.

"When this hoax was discovered, it was the upstart United Farmers of Alberta party that roared to victory, replacing the ruling Liberals. Following that scandal, the Grits have been shut out in provincial and national elections in Alberta ever since. "

Nelson: Federal Tories left Danielle Smith no choice but to deal with Carney

A year ago it looked certain the Tories would form a national government. When that didn't happen Alberta had to deal with the Liberals.

calgaryherald.com

Pre-Trudeau II no more pipelines, tanker ban, carbon caps and taxes
Pre-Trudeau I National Energy Policy
Pre-Depression era bankers

Etc....

 

[MilEME09]

Alberta next panel has released its report, and its exactly what we predicted with no "no" option in the survey. I absolutely laughed at number 7 bullet point 2. The "we wanna opt out but keep the money" referendum

 

[HavokFour]

Alberta next panel has released its report, and its exactly what we predicted with no "no" option in the survey. I absolutely laughed at number 7 bullet point 2. The "we wanna opt out but keeo the money" referendum

I almost want to believe no one proof read this, just because of that point.

 

[brihard]

Alberta next panel has released its report, and its exactly what we predicted with no "no" option in the survey. I absolutely laughed at number 7 bullet point 2. The "we wanna opt out but keep the money" referendum

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7(3) and 7(4) would both require constitutional amendments with the support of seven provincial legislatures representing at least fifty percent of the population. Good luck with that.

We have an exceptionally difficult Constitution to amend. The appointment of judges and the existence and appointment of the Senate are both here to stay.

 

[MilEME09]

7(3) and 7(4) would both require constitutional amendments with the support of seven provincial legislatures representing at least fifty percent of the population. Good luck with that.

We have an exceptionally difficult Constitution to amend. The appointment of judges and the existence and appointment of the Senate are both here to stay.

Read as AB gov wasting money to do nothing more than puff their chest

 

[MilEME09]

More fuel to the fire that the Lethbridge east recall might be a scam to protect the current MLA

https://twitter.com/x/status/2002100777800905036

 

[Blackadder1916]

More fuel to the fire that the Lethbridge east recall might be a scam to protect the current MLA

https://twitter.com/x/status/2002100777800905036

Additional to above.

All I want for Christmas is Ryan Tanner’s phone number

Scott Sakatch Herald Editor This past Wednesday marked three weeks since the recall petition for Lethbridge East MLA Nathan Neudorf was approved by

lethbridgeherald.com

Even if it is a bogus recall petition, there may not be a lot that the Election Commissioner can do about it. While he does have authority to investigate when there are “reasonable grounds to believe” an infraction has occurred, that is a high threshold. The Recall Act does provide for offences and penalties, but they mainly deal with procedural irregularities and do not specifically address the situation of an applicant who, after being authorized to initiate a recall petition, makes no attempt to actually enlist canvassers or gather signatures.

Alberta King's Printer:

Offences re recall petition

55(1) A person commits an offence if the person

(a) knowingly makes a false or misleading statement concerning the contents or effect of a recall petition,

(b) refuses to allow an individual to read a notice of recall petition,

(c) subject to the regulations, in any manner exerts undue influence on an individual, within the meaning of section 175 of the Election Act, in respect of the signing of a recall petition,

(d) commits an offence or contravention prescribed by the regulations for the purposes of this section, or

(e) affixes a false or forged signature on a recall petition.

(2) A person commits an offence if the person contravenes any of the following provisions or a provision that is specified for the purposes of this section and the regulations:

(a) section 4(2) or (4);

(b) section 5(1) or (2);

(c) section 10 or 16;

(d) section 11(1) or (3).

(3) A person that collects, uses or discloses personal information, except as authorized under this Act or the regulations, commits an offence.

(4) A person who contravenes this section is guilty of an offence and liable to a fine of not more than the amount prescribed in respect of that offence.

2021 cR-5.7 s55;2022 c14 s14

Obstruction

56(1) No person shall obstruct any person carrying out an inquiry, investigation or examination under this Act or withhold from that person or conceal or destroy any books, papers, documents or things relevant to the subject‑matter of the investigation or examination.

(2) A person who contravenes this section is guilty of an offence and liable to a fine of not more than the prescribed amount.

False documents

57(1) No person shall knowingly make a false statement in any application, return, financial statement, report or other document filed with the Chief Electoral Officer under this Act.

(2) A person who contravenes this section is guilty of an offence and liable to a fine of not more than the prescribed amount.

False statements

58(1) No person shall knowingly give false information to a chief financial officer or other person authorized to accept contributions.

(2) A person who contravenes this section is guilty of an offence and liable to a fine of not more than the prescribed amount.

Expenses more than maximum

59 A person who contravenes section 13 or 18 is guilty of an offence and liable to a fine of not more than $100 000.

Failure to provide financial statement or return

60 An applicant or the chief financial officer of an applicant who contravenes the regulations under Part 3 by failing to provide a financial statement or return is guilty of an offence and liable to a fine of not more than $1000.

Failure to comply with directions

61 A person who fails to comply with a direction of the Chief Electoral Officer or the Election Commissioner is guilty of an offence and liable to a fine of not more than $1000.

Third party recall advertising offences

62 A third party that contravenes Part 3 is guilty of an offence and liable to a fine not exceeding

(a) $10 000 if the third party is an individual, or

(b) $100 000 if the third party is a corporation, unincorporated organization or association.

General offences

63(1) Subject to the regulations, a person who contravenes any of the provisions of this Act, for which contravention no fine is otherwise provided, is guilty of an offence and liable to

(a) in the case of an individual, a fine not to exceed $10 000, or

(b) in the case of a corporation, unincorporated organization or association, a fine not to exceed $100 000.

(2) If a corporation commits an offence under this Act or the regulations, an officer or director of the corporation who directed, authorized, assented to, acquiesced in or participated in the commission of the offence is guilty of the offence and liable to the penalties set out in respect of the offence whether or not the corporation has been prosecuted or convicted.

Administrative penalties

64(0.1) Subject to this Part and the regulations, the Election Act and Election Finances and Contributions Disclosure Act apply with all necessary modifications with respect to an administrative penalty issued under this section.

(1) After completing an investigation, if the Election Commissioner is of the opinion that a person has contravened a provision of this Act or a provision that is specified for the purposes of this section in the regulations, the Election Commissioner may, in accordance with the regulations, by notice in writing given to that person, require that person to pay an administrative penalty in the amount set out in the notice for each contravention.

(2) All penalties collected under this section shall be paid into the General Revenue Fund.

(3) A person who pays an administrative penalty in respect of a contravention may not be charged under this Act with an offence in respect of that contravention.

 

[MilEME09]

Additional to above.

All I want for Christmas is Ryan Tanner’s phone number

Scott Sakatch Herald Editor This past Wednesday marked three weeks since the recall petition for Lethbridge East MLA Nathan Neudorf was approved by

lethbridgeherald.com

Even if it is a bogus recall petition, there may not be a lot that the Election Commissioner can do about it. While he does have authority to investigate when there are “reasonable grounds to believe” an infraction has occurred, that is a high threshold. The Recall Act does provide for offences and penalties, but they mainly deal with procedural irregularities and do not specifically address the situation of an applicant who, after being authorized to initiate a recall petition, makes no attempt to actually enlist canvassers or gather signatures.

Alberta King's Printer:

Wonder if there would be grounds for a fraud investigation though?

 

[lenaitch]

I absolutely laughed at number 7 bullet point 2. The "we wanna opt out but keep the money" referendum

Right out of the Quebec playbook.

I find it interesting that they want to strengthen the rules about keeping the feds out of the provincial sandbox, then call for the Senate to be abolished, which is solely a federal matter.

 

[Brad Sallows]

Right out of the Quebec playbook.

I find it interesting that they want to strengthen the rules about keeping the feds out of the provincial sandbox, then call for the Senate to be abolished, which is solely a federal matter.

Odder is anyone who wants to open the constitution to talk about the Senate and doesn't want to properly reform it to be a co-equal branch of a bicameral legislature, structured for equal provincial representation.