Alberta government thread

[RangerRay]

Can you give some examples of that ?

The recall campaigns in B.C. A bunch of groups loosely connected to the parties have used them 29 times to fight the last election. Only one got the required number of signatures because he got caught sending fake letters to the editor at the local paper. He ended up resigning before the vote.

California is full of referenda cases where one group will get a law through, then the next year another group will get that law repealed or replaced with an opposite law, and the process goes back and forth as infinitum. Businesses can’t operate in that environment.

 

[Good2Golf]

Message to the UCP who started this goat rodeo....play stupid games, win stupid prizes.

Don't blame the NDP for what the UCP did to themselves.

“Down in the minors” version of David Cameron’s attention diversion effort using BREXIT as a threat…until they voted for it…

 

[daftandbarmy]

The recall campaigns in B.C. A bunch of groups loosely connected to the parties have used them 29 times to fight the last election. Only one got the required number of signatures because he got caught sending fake letters to the editor at the local paper. He ended up resigning before the vote.

California is full of referenda cases where one group will get a law through, then the next year another group will get that law repealed or replaced with an opposite law, and the process goes back and forth as infinitum. Businesses - or anyone else except lawyers and policy wonks - can’t operate in that environment.

There, FTFY

 

[CBH99]

Just to further this particular topic...

Alberta’s Smith says courts should not be gatekeepers on constitutional questions

Alberta Premier Danielle Smith says those seeking an independence referendum should not have “gatekeepers,” like the courts, standing in their way.

www.ctvnews.ca

 

[CBH99]

Alright so next up on the UCP power trip, handing powers from the Chief electoral officer to a minister, putting naming restrictions on political parties (likely a direct target against the AB party trying to rename to the AB PC's), and discontinue any court proceeding brought by the chief electoral officer (who referred a separatist referendum petition to the courts to see if its wording was even legal), limits to the training the Law society can mandate. For any healthy democracy, the amount of power the UCP in trying to concentrate on them is worrisome, especially the justice minister.

https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/edmonton/alberta-legislation-would-change-citizen-referendum-rules-restrict-political-party-names-9.7003718

So I think here is the crux of the issue, and I suspect it's just one of those things that will generate debate among people for the foreseeable future...

When it comes to a healthy democracy, that's exactly what I see when it comes to Danielle Smith. Someone who has, and is, trying to protect people's freedoms at a fundamental level.

For example - I agree with her that citizen led movements aren't supposed to have a bunch of gatekeepers that either allow or disallow those movements to take root.

If it's an unpopular idea, then it won't go anywhere. And if it's an idea that people can get behind, it'll find itself supported by the common citizen.

Her point is that it shouldn't be up a court to determine whether or not work on that idea can proceed - especially at the citizen initiated, grassroots level...and that doesn't sound unreasonable to me on the surface

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Support for the idea of seperation may very well be starting to simmer down now that Trudeau is gone.

Regardless of his policies, Mark Carney is a new face & a lot more likeable, and I think people have put some pretty high hopes on him pulling thru for us in the end...so I think people in general will want to work with him & see what he can do for the province, and will consider that a far safer option than separating altogether

I personally think the seperation movement will gain some steam before it starts to lose steam, but in the end I imagine Alberta won't vote to seperate.

But the fact that it is even being discussed by so many people, so openly that the government & courts are starting to weigh in on the matter, I think proves just how hated he was by Albertans & how completely gone that trust with Ottawa is.