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U.K. General Election/Government, 4 Jul 2024 - ?

You know what Starmer et al will fill the place with.
Their buddies

They've been filling the place with "buddies" since before the Life Peerages Act (1958) when politicians and fellow travelers were made barons and their inbred first born sons inherited the title and seat. The only difference is that now inbred offspring don't get a vote.
 
Removing the hereditary peers, live devolution, is the legacy of Tony Blair and I wonder if really Britain is better governed today than it was when he was elected. I'm not going to defend hereditary power (although the one benefit of the remaining hereditary peers was that many were crossbenchers or independents) but the irony of Blair's reforms is that what Britain is left with is a ridiculously bloated version of our Senate.
 
A non-paywalled article...

Very 70s Callaghan Labour Government of them. I have no doubt that the results will be similar ;)





British Steel is on track to be fully nationalised within weeks, the Guardian understands, a year after the government took over the daily running of the loss-making business from its Chinese owner.

The steelmaker, which employs 3,500 people at its plant in Scunthorpe, was taken under government control last April amid fears that the owner Jingye was planning to shut down the site.

British Steel operates the last two remaining blast furnaces in the UK but it is still economically controlled by the Chinese company, which bought it out of insolvency in early 2020.

Ministers moved to designate the steel industry as vital to national security last week, which could clear the way for a nationalisation on those grounds, a source with knowledge of the matter said.

They are understood to have offered £100m to Jingye for British Steel earlier this month but were rebuffed. The Chinese company had originally demanded more than £1bn.

Alternatively, the government could simply set Jingye a deadline for a deal to be done, the source added. Whichever route they go down, ministers plan to take economic control of British Steel from Jingye in the coming weeks, the person added.

Shutting the plant would have ended Britain’s “primary” steel-making ability because blast furnaces allow the metal to be made from scratch, rather than relying on scrap.

But by the end of January this year the cost of keeping British Steel running had ballooned to £377m, and could exceed £1.5bn by 2028 if it continues at its current rate, the National Audit Office said earlier this month.

Should never have been allowed to be bought by a Chinese company in the first place...

On that note I wonder how those plans for that new Chinese embassy are coming along?
 
Our garage has been on fire in previous recent years. They just decided, again, to burn to the ground their entire estate.
 
Every time I think Canada's in trouble it helps to looks at the UK ;)


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It's an interesting reflection on the differences between our two "Westminster" approaches to parliament. Over the course of the 14 years from David Cameron's election in 2010, the Tories ran through 5 PMs, despite having majority governments for most of that time. Canada hasn't seen anything like that for a party in office since Sir John A died and it took 4 different leaders to finish up the rest of his term, the first of which died in office.

The big difference I think is the relative power of the backbenches in the UK. With so many MPs in the UK it's impossible to buy them all off with cabinet/PS/committee chair jobs, leaving a large and potentially unruly body of MPs to try and manage if things aren't going well for the government. For Starmer that meant continuously having to backtrack on any policy approach to fixing the UK's problems that didn't pass the left wing sniff test of much of the Labour backbench. Same with the Tory PMs in reverse.

We've had factions in our parties vying for power of course, think Paul Martin vs Chretien or John Turner vs PET for sitting government examples. Or Mulroney vs Clark and everyone vs Deif for the Tories in opposition. But we don't have the kind of formal mechanisms for backbenchers to force out a leader that the Brits have. At least we didn't until the Reform Act, which only the Tories have used to oust Erin O'Toole, and of course they were in opposition.

It will be interesting to see going forward if more of the federal parties start to make use of the Reform Act to give their MPs this kind of power.
 
Every time I think Canada's in trouble it helps to looks at the UK ;)


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No UK PM has served a full term since brexit.

I wonder why that is?

Right, because without the EU they are functionally broke. Too broke to afford to maintain services, too broke to raise taxes, but the public want their services and dont want higher taxes.

Best of luck to andy burnham, but he's going to be the latest one to try to govern the ungovernable.
 
It's an interesting reflection on the differences between our two "Westminster" approaches to parliament. Over the course of the 14 years from David Cameron's election in 2010, the Tories ran through 5 PMs, despite having majority governments for most of that time. Canada hasn't seen anything like that for a party in office since Sir John A died and it took 4 different leaders to finish up the rest of his term, the first of which died in office.

The big difference I think is the relative power of the backbenches in the UK. With so many MPs in the UK it's impossible to buy them all off with cabinet/PS/committee chair jobs, leaving a large and potentially unruly body of MPs to try and manage if things aren't going well for the government. For Starmer that meant continuously having to backtrack on any policy approach to fixing the UK's problems that didn't pass the left wing sniff test of much of the Labour backbench. Same with the Tory PMs in reverse.

We've had factions in our parties vying for power of course, think Paul Martin vs Chretien or John Turner vs PET for sitting government examples. Or Mulroney vs Clark and everyone vs Deif for the Tories in opposition. But we don't have the kind of formal mechanisms for backbenchers to force out a leader that the Brits have. At least we didn't until the Reform Act, which only the Tories have used to oust Erin O'Toole, and of course they were in opposition.

It will be interesting to see going forward if more of the federal parties start to make use of the Reform Act to give their MPs this kind of power.
It is too soon to see of Carney will experience a back bench revolt but the murmurs are there. It must make some of Trudeau's leftovers stifle their so called principles to be part of Carneys government. I have had some great fun with my Hardcore Liberal friends and family members by teasing them that the Harper second term being implemented by Carney seems to have very broad support.

Would a Trudeau have bought 65,402 AR-derived Assault rifles?
Would Trudeau have reduced the Women's Issues department budget from 486 Million to under 80?
Trudeau would have kicked Submarine questions down the street through 2035 if he was still around.
Climate anyone?, and Pipelines for all.
 
It is too soon to see of Carney will experience a back bench revolt but the murmurs are there. It must make some of Trudeau's leftovers stifle their so called principles to be part of Carneys government. I have had some great fun with my Hardcore Liberal friends and family members by teasing them that the Harper second term being implemented by Carney seems to have very broad support.

Would a Trudeau have bought 65,402 AR-derived Assault rifles?
Would Trudeau have reduced the Women's Issues department budget from 486 Million to under 80?
Trudeau would have kicked Submarine questions down the street through 2035 if he was still around.
Climate anyone?, and Pipelines for all.
Harpers 4th term.
 
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