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Liberal (Minority/Majority) Government 2025 - ???

Mods, should some of these recent post made be bumped over to Pipelines thread?

My point here was priorities of HSR vs Pipelines for the LPC not to deep dive into pipelines
 
Whatever. I don't care how you view my statement. Period. I took the time to do a quick google AI search and a shit ton of projects are showing at various near ready states (from just waiting government greenlights to do have some more leg work), I was going to quote it. Then I stopped. Alot of work to copy and paste, then I decided F it, better way to address it, in your own statement.

Ok so name one that’s ready to progress save for federal regulatory approval please. I did and it wasn’t hard to find- though blind reliance on AI may not get you there.

PREVIOUS Government? Those regulations (shackles) are STILL THERE. And PM MC is NOT using C5 to override them or by pass them.

Yes, previous government. There’s been quite a bit of turnover and a very clear change in political will and policy approaches.


And for reference, Trudeau/CARNEY's Anti-energy laws

"Key legislation and policies described by critics as "anti-energy" include:
  • Bill C-69 (2019): Established a new Impact Assessment Act and the Canadian Energy Regulator Act. It expanded assessments to include environmental, health, social, and economic impacts, which critics argued added insurmountable delays and uncertainty to infrastructure projects.
  • Bill C-48 (2019): The Oil Tanker Moratorium Act banned oil tankers carrying over 12,500 tonnes of oil from stopping at ports on British Columbia's northern coast, effectively preventing projects like the Northern Gateway pipeline.
  • Bill C-12 (2020): The Canadian Net-Zero Emissions Accountability Act enshrined into law the target of reducing greenhouse gas emissions to net-zero by 2050, requiring a significant shift away from fossil fuels.
  • Clean Electricity Regulations (2023): Draft regulations intended to phase out the use of fossil fuels in electricity generation by 2050.
  • Oil and Gas Subsidies Phase-Out: A move to eliminate "inefficient" fossil fuel subsidies, with a deadline set for 2025."

Prime Minister Carney was neither a member of Parliament nor a member of the government for any of those. The law that has passed during his tenure - C-5, you mentioned it - included establishing the MPO, which is simply awaiting a tabled proposal for an oil pipeline at this point, and which is already considering a major LNG project. Again, that’s the one I mentioned by name.

I’ll also point you to the ‘one project, one assessment’ agreement the Feds and Alberta have recently reached under PM Carney and minister Hodgson. That’s a major, major policy shift for environmental and impact assessments from the Feds.

 
Ok so name one that’s ready to progress save for federal regulatory approval please. I did and it wasn’t hard to find- though blind reliance on AI may not get you there.



Yes, previous government. There’s been quite a bit of turnover and a very clear change in political will and policy approaches.




Prime Minister Carney was neither a member of Parliament nor a member of the government for any of those. The law that has passed during his tenure - C-5, you mentioned it - included establishing the MPO, which is simply awaiting a tabled proposal for an oil pipeline at this point, and which is already considering a major LNG project. Again, that’s the one I mentioned by name.

I’ll also point you to the ‘one project, one assessment’ agreement the Feds and Alberta have recently reached under PM Carney and minister Hodgson. That’s a major, major policy shift for environmental and impact assessments from the Feds.


And, like anything else in the world of permit approvals, if the boss says 'speed things up and get it out the door' that's what the staff will do - laws be damned (kind of)...
 
Ok so name one that’s ready to progress save for federal regulatory approval please.
Used Google AI so take with a grain of salt (subject to errors)

Key "Ready-to-Go" / Nearing Operation Projects:
Major Projects Recently Added for Fast-Tracking:
Major Infrastructure & Expansion Projects:
Yes, previous government. There’s been quite a bit of turnover and a very clear change in political will and policy approaches.
Has there been a change in political will? That is your opinion, period. Previous government? Pretty much the same, different head man. Bill C5 created and remains unused for oil and gas.

Prime Minister Carney was neither a member of Parliament nor a member of the government for any of those.
Great, get rid of those of bills and blame it on Trudeau/"previous government". After all its "dangerous and divided world"

establishing the MPO
Time will tell if this slows things down even more or it actually speeds them up. In my OPINION, I don't think it is going to speed anything up.
 
And, like anything else in the world of permit approvals, if the boss says 'speed things up and get it out the door' that's what the staff will do - laws be damned (kind of)...
Political WILL is the key term. When any government really wants things to happen, the speeds at which it moves is amazing.
 


Danielle Smith seems pretty pleased with the Carney government's approach, compared to its predecessor. Hard to claim that the current government and its O&G policy is simply a continuation of the Trudeau approach. A few excerpts:

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"Premier Danielle Smith says the relationship Alberta has with the federal government feels more positive and that it’s been years since she’s seen this level of collaboration."

"I don’t think I’ve seen so much collaboration with the feds since I got elected – and it’s probably been over a decade since we saw that kind of collaboration, so that’s very positive."

"Smith said almost all of the “nine bad laws” have been addressed by Ottawa -- they’re still fighting out one on plastics in court -- but did acknowledge that the proof for most Albertans will see is movement on a proposed new pipeline to the west coast.

“We are going to put in a submission for west coast pipeline -- a million barrels a day -- by June, ” she said. “We want the Major Projects Office to give the go ahead to start the approvals by the end of the year and then when we identify -- the public will see which port we’re identifying -- that’s where we’ll look for the carve outs to take place so that’s part of our MOU (Memorandum of Understanding) agreement.”"

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Seems like there is optimism in the Premier's office, and progress being made in getting to the submission stage for a new pipeline.

It also sounds like Smith has a good working relationship with Energy and Natural Resources minister Tim Hodgson.

Edited for spelling
 
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"The energy deal stipulated that Alberta's industrial carbon price would eventually reach $130 per tonne, and Smith said how quickly that price is reached is what is still being negotiated."

"Smith pointed to other jurisdictions, like the United States, that currently don't have carbon pricing systems, and said they are more attractive investment environments."

"..Smith said she didn't want to see Alberta ramp up its price to $130 per tonne too quickly."

Just a few tidbits to consider. Its not there yet. And for god sakes DROP the f-ing carbon pricing, its BS.

And look at me, quoting CBC of all news agencies.
 
"Smith pointed to other jurisdictions, like the United States, that currently don't have carbon pricing systems, and said they are more attractive investment environments."

Carbon pricing is probably the dumbest thing canada has implemented. Just pure lunacy.
 
Used Google AI so take with a grain of salt (subject to errors)

Key "Ready-to-Go" / Nearing Operation Projects:
I've already pointed this out about a week ago - its full steam ahead on this expansion - they have already moved up the timelines on this. By early 2028, TMX will be producing 1.3m/barrels a day in oil. That's greater than 23% of all oil that Canada exports a day.

The 2yr timeline is the time if physically takes to build/install all the additional pumping stations needed along the pipeline. There is nothing stopping this from occurring other than the owners of the pipeline spending the money to make it happen.
 
Carbon pricing is probably the dumbest thing canada has implemented. Just pure lunacy.
Pure cash grab and a vote grab of the "greens" thinking voters. I wish people got it through their heads carbon not evil. It is simply a life essential element
 
Carbon pricing an impact at all? Other fees?
Trans Mountain will be at capacity by next month, April, over 18+months ahead of schedule.

That capacity will be at 890,000 barrels/day.

They are spending another 9$ million (which is absolute peanuts) by Jan 2027 to add 'drag reducing agents' that will increase the flow by 10%. That will bring the number of barrels/day to 979,000.

In addition, they are constructing more pumping stations that will be completed in 2028. That will add another 360,000 barrels/day to the pipeline.

By the 2028 Trans Mountain will be shipping 1,339,000 barrels/day to the docks for shipping somewhere in the world.

At 70$ USD/barrel that's 93.7m USD/day or 34.2b USD a year.

 
Just admit you all fell for the psy ops campaign
Is that the psy op/MSM IO that gave Team Blue such a big lead in polling for many months until they got their wish and PMJT GTFO’ed?
 
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I'll be upfront on the whole PP issue. I voted Conservative in the last three elections but did vote for JT in 2015 as the Conservatives were stale by that point and the country needed a change (but unfortunately didn't get the right kind of change). That being said I wasn't a PP fan and felt that the Conservative Party went the wrong direction in picking their leader.

I listened to the full Joe Rogan interview but haven't had a chance to watch the 2nd link yet. I thought the tone PP struck during the interview was definitely an improvement over what we saw in the lead up to the last election. That being said I felt it was a bit of a softball interview...more of a chat about MMA and health issues with some politics thrown in. Definite improvement but not enough for me to be convinced yet that he's the right leader to face Carney.

I'll watch the 2nd interview and try to keep an open mind about him, but as of now I still think the Conservatives should find a new leader before the next election. The bloom will inevitably come off Carney's rose (as it does with every government since none can ever deliver on everything that people expect) and I can't help but feel that the Conservatives might be better prepared under a different leader.
 
Just wrapping this up now.

I think it's obvious that either him or Jenni Byrne fucked up the last campaign and should have let this PP out.

The sad part is the oldies who are hoarding their riches and cowering over the Orange man won't listen to these.
I was contacted by the Conservatives for a donation shortly after the last election. I asked the guy on the phone why Jenni was
still around after losing four elections but Telford and Butts moved on after winning four. Umm aaah gee that's a god point.
They have not phoned back.
 
Pierre does it again, well done!

I might actually have voted for him IF he had been this person.

Same dude he has always been. Just presented differently. I admit Jenni Byrne did him no favours. Now, go back and look at the lesser known CANADIAN podcast interviews he did during the election 2025 campaign, same style, same Pierre. However many in this nation were rabid with TDS and bought the MSM slander campaign against Pierre.

No. He has learned from his past performance and adjusted how he interacts and communicates.

Don’t blame Jenni Byrne, he accepted whatever advice she gave, that’s on him.

Your point that this man existed last year during the campaign (I disagree) as evidenced by the more obscure social media space and that the majority of the voting citizenry only saw him verbing the (Trudeau-related) noun a day late and a penny short in fact confirms that he didn’t have his shizzle wired tightly during the campaign.

Ummm, thats not it all. He is the same guy as a year ago. He is in his mid 40s. Just admit you all fell for the psy ops campaign

You continue to say this. I don’t buy it for a second. He was off his campaign game without question.

I tried several times to engage through his constituency office in the years prior to the election and nothing back at all. An 11th hour try by one of his campaigners coming by my house (two blocks over from PP’s [pre-Stornaway] house) with a bunch of non-answers to my questions as to why he was still on Trudeau and not focusing on Carney’s platform. He was committed to staying on a stale message, that he stole defeat from the jaws of victory.
 
the difference standards of criticism many people here have CPC vs LPC.

This is a very accurate observation here and other platforms.

salivating at the opportunity to disagree with him and flex your own intellectual muscle is an unhealthy lifestyle choice.

I mean, let's be real. If Poilievre was posting here he'd call ArmyRick aggressive lol
 
I'll be upfront on the whole PP issue. I voted Conservative in the last three elections but did vote for JT in 2015 as the Conservatives were stale by that point and the country needed a change (but unfortunately didn't get the right kind of change). That being said I wasn't a PP fan and felt that the Conservative Party went the wrong direction in picking their leader.

I listened to the full Joe Rogan interview but haven't had a chance to watch the 2nd link yet. I thought the tone PP struck during the interview was definitely an improvement over what we saw in the lead up to the last election. That being said I felt it was a bit of a softball interview...more of a chat about MMA and health issues with some politics thrown in. Definite improvement but not enough for me to be convinced yet that he's the right leader to face Carney.

I'll watch the 2nd interview and try to keep an open mind about him, but as of now I still think the Conservatives should find a new leader before the next election. The bloom will inevitably come off Carney's rose (as it does with every government since none can ever deliver on everything that people expect) and I can't help but feel that the Conservatives might be better prepared under a different leader.

The CPC had a leadership review at end January. The Party claims 95% participation from party members. Pierre garnered 87.4% of that vote. I'll take those numbers over individual opinion.
 
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