Political impacts of Ukraine war

[The Bread Guy]

My, those UKR drones get around

Estonia expects Ukraine to improve drone control after airspace breaches

Estonia's government has said it expects Ukraine to improve control over its drones after a series of airspace breaches on the borders of the Baltic states in recent months.

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[Kirkhill]

A Dominic Nicholls report from a Ukraine operations room.

Kill zone from Front Line Own Troops to 30 km into the enemy rear with $2000 fibreoptic drones modified locally everyday.

5 km front for a brigade with one factory supplying 2000 FPVs a monthfor the brigade. 200 or so for a battalion.

No vehicular movement within the kill zone.

Russians dropped off 20 km from their destination, advancing on foot with no kit, led on the route by drones hoping that their kit will be delivered by drones once they are in position.

And AI autonomy

....

already here.

Inside the Ukrainian war room turning the tide on Russia

We get exclusive access to the secret command HQ to witness new technology ruthlessly ‘deleting’ Putin’s army

www.telegraph.co.uk

 

[Colin Parkinson]

And a estimate that it costs Ukraine $882 to kill a Russian solider.

 

[Eaglelord17]

And a estimate that it costs Ukraine $882 to kill a Russian solider.

Thats some good value right there.

Considering Afghanistan was approximately 13 million per direct kill and Vietnam was 168-200k (1970 dollars) the West has a lot to learn from them. And that is facing off against a much inferior force, let alone a peer to peer or even dominate force.

 

[Kirkhill]

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[Czech_pivo]

Thats some good value right there.

Considering Afghanistan was approximately 13 million per direct kill and Vietnam was 168-200k (1970 dollars) the West has a lot to learn from them. And that is facing off against a much inferior force, let alone a peer to peer or even dominate force.

That's their cost because their wages and support staff/services is more than likely much much lower than a NATO country.

But, its still amazingly lower than the above quoted numbers/costs.

 

[GR66]

That's their cost because their wages and support staff/services is more than likely much much lower than a NATO country.

But, its still amazingly lower than the above quoted numbers/costs.

Personally I wouldn't put too much stock in any $ vs casualty calculation for any war. There are so many factors involved in the effectiveness/ineffectiveness of any military that can wildly swing the number of casualties, never mind the difficulty of calculating an actual cost.

 

[KevinB]

Thats some good value right there.

Considering Afghanistan was approximately 13 million per direct kill and Vietnam was 168-200k (1970 dollars) the West has a lot to learn from them. And that is facing off against a much inferior force, let alone a peer to peer or even dominate force.

Kill figures during a war (and in cases of fairly non permissive areas after) are next to impossible to work out. Tons of casualties got dragged across the border in Afghanistan into Pakistan as well, to often be replaced by more. Even closed sources on Ukraine and Russian casualties can vary dramatically.

Additionally Afghanistan and Vietnam where primarily COIN operations without significant engagements of conventional forces at the levels the Russian invasion of Ukraine has seen.

Plus those giant FOB’s don’t fund themselves. Setting up a GreenBeans, Buger King, Dairy Queen and multiple base exchanges is fairly costly overhead.

Additionally the US and Australia in Vietnam, and NATO/Coalition members in Afghanistan where not getting a lot of donated equipment, nor where they a war for national survival that tended to focus one’s effort.