Liberal (Minority/Majority) Government 2025 - ???

[brihard]

I dunno is he ? This is what google tells me...

Have some substantiation or just a drive by smear ?

It’s him. He was a CMR student, charged under 130 NDA and kicked out right at the end for running a pyramid scheme. As he had completed all his degree requirements, he succesfully sued for conferral of his degree, though he was still punted from CAF.

https://canlii.ca/t/1nmbg

 

[Czech_pivo]

As Carney does many things I like, he erodes a notable portion of his "big tent" Liberal support.

He probably knew the real world back when he campaigned or maybe not.

That’s a true statement, question is this, is it being offset by an equal, smaller or larger number of red Tories or centre Tories?
Time will tell.

 

[Halifax Tar]

It’s him. He was a CMR student, charged under 130 NDA and kicked out right at the end for running a pyramid scheme. As he had completed all his degree requirements, he succesfully sued for conferral of his degree, though he was still punted from CAF.

https://canlii.ca/t/1nmbg

Again honorably discharged. Lets make sure we use the right words, some words have connotations.

A young man who leveraged a position of responsibility within a military college to get junior personnel to enter into a pyramid scheme is not a paragon of virtue to be emulated. When he declines t odiscuss it, one may infer certain things about him and his character.

Just so you are tracking he is 56 now. Again from your own Frank article, which I am glad we accepting as a credible source now BTW:

“It was a very difficult time in my life,” he says. Even after he got his degree, it took him a few years to get his life back on track. He was $40K in the hole from the court fight, and he struggled with depression.

He calls the pyramid scheme an “embarrassing mistake… I thought everything was legal. Once I realized what was going on, it was too late.”

He says he wasn’t the mastermind, it was run by people outside the college. Over 100 students were involved, he says, but he was “scapegoated.”

“They made me a case because I was influential, what can I say? The commandant at the time picked me as an example. The other officer cadets graduated no problem.”

And this invalidates his position in the post from X for you ?

 

[dapaterson]

Again honorably discharged. Lets make sure we use the right words, some words have connotations.



Just so you are tracking he is 56 now. Again from your own Frank article, which I am glad we accepting as a credible source now BTW:



And this invalidates his position in the post from X for you ?

I am saying that someone convicted should show some bare minimum of remorse.

 

[Halifax Tar]

I am saying that someone convicted should show some bare minimum of remorse.

Do you know he hasn't ? Did you read the portion I quoted from the article you provided ?

And again this invalidates his position in the post from X for you ? Or do you just not like him ?

 

[Maxman1]

I dunno is he ? This is what google tells me...

Have some substantiation or just a drive by smear ?

If I had to guess:

 

[dapaterson]

If I had to guess:

@brihard kindly shared an appeal court ruling that explained his conviction for participating in a pyramid scheme. https://www.canlii.org/fr/qc/qcca/doc/1995/1995canlii5191/1995canlii5191.html

Other online sources suggest there was a later out of court settlement that saw CMR award him his degree.

 

[Maxman1]

@brihard kindly shared an appeal court ruling that explained his conviction for participating in a pyramid scheme. https://www.canlii.org/fr/qc/qcca/doc/1995/1995canlii5191/1995canlii5191.html

Other online sources suggest there was a later out of court settlement that saw CMR award him his degree.

The issue was the assertion he was "court martialed and kicked out".

 

[dapaterson]

The issue was the assertion he was "court martialed and kicked out".

The documentation provided cites his court martial - para 15; and that he was released from the CAF - para 17.

 

[Blackadder1916]

@brihard kindly shared an appeal court ruling that explained his conviction for participating in a pyramid scheme. https://www.canlii.org/fr/qc/qcca/doc/1995/1995canlii5191/1995canlii5191.html

Other online sources suggest there was a later out of court settlement that saw CMR award him his degree.

Let's see what the alma mater fellow alumni have to say.

Shaping Canada’s Food Policy: CMC Alumnus Sylvain Charlebois (Class of 1992) – RMC Alumni Association Inc. | L'Association des Ancien(ne)s des CMR

From the classrooms of the Royal Military Colleges to the heart of Canada’s national conversation on food and public policy, Sylvain Charlebois, RMC Class of 1992, has built a career defined by rigorous analysis, public service, and thought leadership. A nationally recognized authority on...

www.rmcalumni.ca

 

[PrairieFella]

be really nice to see a few charters lined up at Pearson destination not Canada "we are going home kids"

Happens every day. We just dont celebrate because we as a society recognize the inherent dignity of all humans.

 

[Halifax Tar]

Let's see what the alma mater fellow alumni have to say.

Shaping Canada’s Food Policy: CMC Alumnus Sylvain Charlebois (Class of 1992) – RMC Alumni Association Inc. | L'Association des Ancien(ne)s des CMR

From the classrooms of the Royal Military Colleges to the heart of Canada’s national conversation on food and public policy, Sylvain Charlebois, RMC Class of 1992, has built a career defined by rigorous analysis, public service, and thought leadership. A nationally recognized authority on...

www.rmcalumni.ca

That's a pretty glowing endorsement.

I will quote the last line:

From the CMC’s to the national stage, Sylvain’s career reflects the values of intellectual rigour, leadership, and service.

@dapaterson seems his fellow alumni think he's worth listening too.

 

[ArmyRick]

That's a pretty glowing endorsement.

I will quote the last line:



@dapaterson seems his fellow alumni think he's worth listening too.

Sylvain being stupid in his early 20s and somehow people think 30+ years later we should disregard what he says. He is an analyst not an ethics teacher.

Its his knowledge and ability to analyze trends in food production, marketing and distribution that we all listen to.

@dapaterson you seem rather obsessed with discrediting and harping on his past? Sylvain is not running to be an MP. Its gis knowledge we we need.

 

[Lumber]

I do just that. Thank you Uncle Mark for taking defence much more seriously, actually considering oil and gas and thinking about the economy.

I have publicly praised him a few times. I wish (its just that) he would go all the way, not hesitate and completely eradicate Trudeau Liberal ideology

My biggest tissue with the Trudeau liberals was not really the ideology but the execution. "Don't completely fuck up the planet and ruin it for our children's future" doesn't sound like something we should completely irradiate.

 

[Halifax Tar]

Sylvain being stupid in his early 20s and somehow people think 30+ years later we should disregard what he says. He is an analyst not an ethics teacher.

Its his knowledge and ability to analyze trends in food production, marketing and distribution that we all listen to.

@dapaterson you seem rather obsessed with discrediting and harping on his past? Sylvain is not running to be an MP. Its gis knowledge we we need.

When people can't defend against content they will often attack character.

Sylvain does a regular segment on a local radios show, I don't always agree with what he has to say, but I can recognize he's an expert in his field.

Regardless of what shenanigans he got up to 30 years ago.

 

[ArmyRick]

My biggest tissue with the Trudeau liberals was not really the ideology but the execution. "Don't completely fuck up the planet and ruin it for our children's future" doesn't sound like something we should completely irradiate.

There is lets not f-ck up the planet mind set and then there is lets either make shit up or grossly exaggerate problems
-Cows were demonized as BAD for the planet, that is complete utter BS. Mismanagement of Cattle or any livestock is poor for the environment, same with human living, vegetable production, water purification, etc.
-Carbon is NOT BAD, good grief, carbon is a freaking life essential element, thats it. Hell too much oxygen can be deadly too. Without atmospheric carbon, plants don't grow and give off oxygen
-Stop blaming every storm on "man made climate change" and then exploiting that fear to implement rules and ca$h grabs
-Then the man made climate scammers who genuinely make errors, need to then own their mistakes instead of doubling down for the sake of ego and/or money

 

[PrairieFella]

Carbon isnt bad for the environment, the disruption of homeostatis is.

 

[Oldgateboatdriver]

Cows are not bad for the planet: they are bad for your cholesterol.