TKMS Type 212CD (Victoria class replacement megathread)

[dangerboy]

A naming convention I know they wouldn’t adopt because they are too cowardly to name things after people, but I think would have some merit would be to name them after some of the RCN fallen.

Why do you think this? The RCN have named the Harry DeWolf-class offshore patrol vessels after people who served on RCN vessels, such as HMCS Harry DeWolf, HMCS Margaret Brooke, and HMCS Frédérick Rolette.

 

[Czech_pivo]

Why do you think this? The RCN have named the Harry DeWolf-class offshore patrol vessels after people who served on RCN vessels, such as HMCS Harry DeWolf, HMCS Margaret Brooke, and HMCS Frédérick Rolette.

It’s a bit ironic that get our nickers in a twist about what to name our warships so as to not offend anyone but yet these same warships are expected to kill and maim our enemies at will…..

“Today HMCS Diversity successfully sank 2 Chinese frigates resulting in the complete loss of life of both crews. The crew of HMCS Diversity was welcomed back to Esquimalt to cheering crowds of joyous Canadians. Bravo Zulu HMCS Diversity!”

 

[Underway]

The army threads all seem to devolve into reorg conversations. The navy ones always end up arguing about ship names! Lol

I think most if the post game analysis on the sub program is probably done at this point. Tune in next for contract agreement in 6-12 months (I expect it to be done in Nov or early Jan, just a guess no inside info).

Very exciting and happy to see this moving. Now I'm turning my interest to other things. RCN has a lot of pieces moving now.

 

[Lumber]

....just a guess no inside info).

 

[Lumber]

The army threads all seem to devolve into reorg conversations. The navy ones always end up arguing about ship names! Lol

I think most if the post game analysis on the sub program is probably done at this point. Tune in next for contract agreement in 6-12 months (I expect it to be done in Nov or early Jan, just a guess no inside info).

Very exciting and happy to see this moving. Now I'm turning my interest to other things. RCN has a lot of pieces moving now.

Between 12 subs and up to 20 CDCs, if we don't finally get an HMCS Hamilton, well the world just ain't fair.

 

[lenaitch]

trying hard not to grind any axe

I will leave much of this bun toss to the two main players, but the above comment is interesting, and it strikes me that the issue is close to the poster, for whatever reason.

I find it interesting that we sometimes twist ourselves into knots trying to make sure that everything we touch is offensive to no one at every level, to the point that the end result winds up meaning absolutely nothing to anybody. That Pablum was a Canadian development is more telling than was originally intended.

The USN has named ships and boats after states, quite likely not giving a second thought that many of those state names are derived from Aboriginal or 'foreign' words.

 

[Halifax Tar]

Very exciting and happy to see this moving. Now I'm turning my interest to other things. RCN has a lot of pieces moving now.

Very much onside. The decision is made. Let's move on. The future is possibly very bright for the RCN.

 

[OldSolduer]

Very much onside. The decision is made. Let's move on. The future is possibly very bright for the RCN.

You’re an optimist aren’t you?

 

[Halifax Tar]

You’re an optimist aren’t you?

No, just accepting the things I cannot change.

 

[Eaglelord17]

Why do you think this? The RCN have named the Harry DeWolf-class offshore patrol vessels after people who served on RCN vessels, such as HMCS Harry DeWolf, HMCS Margaret Brooke, and HMCS Frédérick Rolette.

Conservatives picked those names 12 years ago. The Liberals prefer to not use peoples names incase of any negative information/perception applied to it in the future.

Most places are avoiding naming after people these days, look at the school formerly known as Ryerson.

 

[Swampbuggy]

In the interest of exploring the idea of names for the submarines, and trying hard not to grind any axe, I noted Noah's suggestion of an "Island" class for the submarines, where I took that a step further, and for the sake of PURE SPECULATION and discussion, along those lines the names could hypothetically be:

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HMCS Baffin
Named for Baffin Island, Canada’s largest island and the anchor of the eastern Arctic approaches. It signals a submarine capable to seasonally operate in Baffin Bay and the northern choke points, reinforcing Arctic sovereignty and long‑range patrol capability.

HMCS Ellesmere
Ellesmere Island is Canada’s northernmost large island, projecting toward the high Arctic and polar basin. As a submarine name, it could emphasize deep‑Arctic, under‑ice endurance and the RCN’s ability to patrol the most remote parts of Canadian territory.

HMCS Victoria
This would carry the heritage of the Victoria class. Further Victoria Island is one of Canada’s largest Arctic islands, straddling Nunavut and the Northwest Territories. Using “Victoria” for a new submarine both ties the boat to the central Arctic archipelago.

HMCS Banks
Banks Island lies on the western flank of the Northwest Passage and the Beaufort Sea. As a hull name, it communicates a role guarding the western Arctic maritime approaches and participating in surveillance and interdiction across routes that may become more active with changing ice conditions.

HMCS Salt Spring (or Saltspring)
Salt Spring Island is one of the Gulf Islands off British Columbia, within the Canadian Pacific Fleet’s operating and training environment. Naming a submarine after Salt Spring could be seen as underscoring its connection to coastal waters, complex littoral navigation, and West Coast communities that support the fleet.

HMCS Galiano
Galiano Island sits among the southern Gulf Islands and shares its name with an early RCN vessel lost with all hands during the First World War. Reusing “Galiano” for a modern submarine both roots the boat in West Coast geography and commemorates a significant chapter of naval sacrifice, which is consistent with long‑standing warship naming traditions.

HMCS Quadra
Quadra Island, in the Discovery Islands region, carries historical resonance through its name and proximity to key coastal routes. As a submarine name, “Quadra” evokes maritime exploration and coastal complexity, fitting for a platform that must operate covertly amid straits, channels, and archipelagic terrain.

HMCS Avalon
Avalon refers to the Avalon Peninsula, projecting into the North Atlantic from Newfoundland and historically central to transatlantic convoys, fisheries, and early settlements. For a submarine, “Avalon” conveys persistent presence at the front line of North Atlantic traffic and the defence of Canada’s eastern approaches without directly using the provincial name.

HMCS Cape Breton
Cape Breton Island has a long industrial and maritime history, including shipbuilding, coal ports, and naval presence. As a submarine name, it connects the boat to Canada’s working maritime heritage on the Atlantic coast and reinforces its role in protecting sea lanes and coastal infrastructure.

HMCS Anticosti
Anticosti Island sits at the mouth of the St. Lawrence River, effectively guarding the gateway to Canada’s interior waterways and major ports. Naming a submarine “Anticosti” highlights a mission centred on monitoring and securing key approaches to Quebec and Ontario’s economic heartland.

HMCS Sable
Sable Island is famous as the “Graveyard of the Atlantic,” a hazardous sandbar whose wreck history is deeply embedded in maritime lore. For a submarine, “Sable” is an evocative name: it suggests a stealthy, elusive presence in dangerous waters, turning an area once notorious for ship losses into a symbol of controlled, covert naval power.

HMCS Magdalen
The Magdalen Islands (Îles de la Madeleine) lie in the Gulf of St. Lawrence and represent a distinctive francophone and Acadian maritime community. As a submarine name, “Magdalen” adds regional and cultural depth to the fleet, while signalling a role in the Gulf—monitoring shipping, fisheries, and approaches to the St. Lawrence in a complex oceanographic environment.

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Obviously this is massive speculation and simply exploring the naming concept - and not axe grinding any particular naming approach, other than to chose a name with Canadian history and/or heritage.
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I would throw HMCS MANITOULIN into that mix as well

 

[Swampbuggy]

Watch them go HMCS ARKELL or GRIMSBY just to spite you

 

[medicineman]

While we're at it, name them after Canadian rock bands? HMCS BTO, HMCS RUSH, and a really good name for a submarine, HMCS GUESS WHO...as in GUESS WHO just torpedoed your ass...

 

[GK .Dundas]

While we're at it, name them after Canadian rock bands? HMCS BTO, HMCS RUSH, and a really good name for a submarine, HMCS GUESS WHO...as in GUESS WHO just torpedoed your ass...

As a Winnipeger and a loyal North ender I wholeheartedly endorse this message.

 

[Oldgateboatdriver]

Name them after sharks but keep the word "shark" out: HMCS's Tiger, Hammerhead, Blacknose, Leopard, Grey Reef, Sharptooth, Silvertip, Smoothhound, Longfin, Thresher, Nurse and Kitefin.

 

[medicineman]

Name them after sharks but keep the word "shark" out: HMCS's Tiger, Hammerhead, Blacknose, Leopard, Grey Reef, Sharptooth, Silvertip, Smoothhound, Longfin, Thresher, Nurse and Kitefin.

I'd leave THRESHER out - since USS THRESHER turned into a debris field around 1963 after a catastrophic incident during sea trials...why tempt fate?

 

[HavokFour]

I'd leave THRESHER out - since USS THRESHER turned into a debris field around 1963 after a catastrophic incident during sea trials...why tempt fate?

Luckily there's no shortage of sharks. There's a ton of deep sea dwellers in general to choose from.

HMCS Goblin, Greenland, Bluntnose, Cookiecutter, Megamouth, Sleeper, Dogfish, Gulper, Seadevil, Fangtooth, Dragonfish, Ninja, etc.

 

[Czech_pivo]

Luckily there's no shortage of sharks.

HMCS Goblin

Any cool French shark names?

 

[HavokFour]

Any cool French shark names?

Added more to my original comment, including general deep sea creatures.

Requin is all I can come up with.

 

[Swampbuggy]

Name them after sharks but keep the word "shark" out: HMCS's Tiger, Hammerhead, Blacknose, Leopard, Grey Reef, Sharptooth, Silvertip, Smoothhound, Longfin, Thresher, Nurse and Kitefin.

Goblin or basking???