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Re: On Political Correctness
« Reply #125 on: June 11, 2020, 11:23:25 »
Unless the VPD has a history of mistreating the gay community, which I don’t believe they have, this is presumptively judging the VPD as hostile to, or counter to the Vancouver gay community’s cause.

Our police are the barrier between law and order and social and civil anarchy. They are our heroes, and deserve a parade of their own once a year.
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Re: On Political Correctness
« Reply #126 on: June 11, 2020, 13:18:31 »
We're in one of those "moments" during which activists feel they have enough momentum to settle scores: censor, ban, dis-employ, outcast, etc.  It'll pass.
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Re: On Political Correctness
« Reply #127 on: June 11, 2020, 20:26:13 »
We're in one of those "moments" during which activists feel they have enough momentum to settle scores: censor, ban, dis-employ, outcast, etc.  It'll pass.

Oh so kinda like the Taliban?
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Re: On Political Correctness
« Reply #128 on: June 11, 2020, 20:53:27 »
The Taliban had religious conviction.  These people can barely feed themselves.
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Re: On Political Correctness
« Reply #129 on: June 11, 2020, 22:21:38 »
The Taliban had religious conviction.  These people can barely feed themselves.

You have me there good sir.
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Re: On Political Correctness
« Reply #130 on: June 11, 2020, 23:31:53 »
The Taliban had religious conviction.  These people can barely feed themselves.

I described such dynamics in terms which involved trying to put a toddler to bed. Unfortunately, it seems you are saying I am very, very accurate with that observation?
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Re: On Political Correctness
« Reply #131 on: June 12, 2020, 08:40:52 »
Hows this for political correctness.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uj0mtxXEGE8

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Re: On Political Correctness
« Reply #132 on: June 12, 2020, 09:48:50 »
The Taliban had religious conviction.  These people can barely feed themselves.

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Re: On Political Correctness
« Reply #133 on: June 12, 2020, 12:38:03 »
Hows this for political correctness.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uj0mtxXEGE8

Is it time to dig up Chris Rock's hollywood star and delete his movies from Netflix?

I'm somewhat (but not much) curious about the reason for bringing attention to a nearly 20 year old skit by a comedian well known for using parody and satire.  However, it might be explained in this 2016 commentary in the LA Times.

Commentary: Every time a black person is killed by police, Americans search for Chris Rock
https://www.latimes.com/entertainment/tv/la-et-st-chris-rock-video-sterling-20160707-snap-htmlstory.html
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JULY 8, 20167:55 PM

Chris Rock is a popular comedian, with a lot of popular skits viewed frequently online. But after this week’s police shooting deaths of Alton Sterling and Philando Castile, one of Rock’s oldest skits has become more popular than it’s been all year.

It seems that every time a high-profile police shooting of a black person occurs, Americans become very interested in the skit titled "How Not to Get Your *** Kicked by the Police.”

In the skit, Rock delivers a mock public service announcement that essentially says as long as young black men obey the law and use common sense, they will not have any trouble with the police.

Taken within the context of Rock’s body of work, most audiences see the skit, recorded more than 15 years ago, as parody – a commentary on police racism with a few in-jokes aimed at other black people. Among Rock’s tips to avoid getting beaten: “Get a white friend” to ride with.

But for some viewers, this context has been lost and the old video has taken on a strange second life  as a rallying point that allows some people to avoid the difficult discussion of racism.

As protests surged following the 2014 death of Michael Brown in Ferguson, Mo., a major St. Louis paper published a letter to the editor that cited Rock’s video as “the only message that will lead to healing in Ferguson.” The writer said that black people are being “misled into believing this is all about the color of their skin,” and begged Rock to come to Ferguson and “tell them they don’t need to be afraid of police.”

But it wasn’t just newspapers that showed this trend. In general, Americans suddenly seemed to become very interested in this video.

Nationwide, Google searches for “Chris Rock police” spiked in August 2014 during the Ferguson protests. Searches spiked even higher in November 2014, as Americans learned of Tamir Rice, the 12-year-old black boy who was shot while playing with a toy gun in a Cleveland park.

. . .

At the time of publication, interest in the video continues to climb.

It seems that people are literally searching for something – even a comedy skit – to help them make sense of the shootings.

Some relate to the bitter irony of the skit’s simplistic “public service” message that cooperation with the police will keep them safe. If only

Rock himself has recently been posting selfies when he’s pulled over by police as a criticism of racially based profiling.
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Re: On Political Correctness
« Reply #134 on: June 12, 2020, 13:20:48 »
>put a toddler to bed.

Similar.  The analogy I've been using is camping in the backyard (as kids).  Anything you forgot, you run inside the house to get.  Mom and Dad are keeping an eye out for you.  After the sun goes down and the wind makes funny noises and the moon casts scary shadows over the tent, you go back inside for the night.

The authorities will (and should) let this collapse as a comedy, while protecting people from the worst abuses (assaults, public health hazards).  Sending in the police or army would allow the protestors to claim they never got their chance to shine.  Let them fumble their way to their inevitable abject collapse.
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Re: On Political Correctness
« Reply #135 on: June 12, 2020, 14:38:41 »
I'm somewhat (but not much) curious about the reason for bringing attention to a nearly 20 year old skit by a comedian well known for using parody and satire.

I'd be happy to answer. I'm making fun of our Cancel culture. We're tearing down hundred year old statues, renaming streets, renaming bars. Digging up 20 year old tweets. Pointing out US bases named after confederate generals.

Just because someone is black or a person of colour doesn't mean they're immune to the mania either. Look at Terry Crews. Solid guy, came forward about being sexually assaulted (being groped) which i think takes a lot of courage

He's in hot water now for tweeting “defeating White supremacy without White people creates Black supremacy. Equality is the truth. Like it or not, we are all in this together."”

To me it sounds like he's saying white people are needed to help defeat white supremacy. But now he has to defend himself from "backlash" and we know what that means. If he doesn't grovel on twitter begging an apology (for having an opinion) then they'll be calls to cancel his shows and harass sponsors. Twitter is a sentient monster.

So when I point out Chris Rock's skit it's in the vein of how far is this going to go? George Washington owned slaves and Abraham Lincon wasn't a stanch defender of blacks being treated equally. Are their statues next? It seems like we're looking backwards instead of forwards and this misguided attempt to be politically correct isn't helping IMO.
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Re: On Political Correctness
« Reply #136 on: June 12, 2020, 14:52:40 »
George Washington owned slaves and Abraham Lincon wasn't a stanch defender of blacks being treated equally. Are their statues next?

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Re: On Political Correctness
« Reply #137 on: June 12, 2020, 16:28:57 »
Now I bet they will pull the re-runs of Dukes of Hazard: can't have the General Lee running around can we?

Flag or no flag, it was a heck of a car.

I tried, but could never master their bootlegger turns. Only found out later they disconnected the locking mechanism from the foot operated parking brake. That was the trick.

Read they used over 300 General Lee's. The stunts destroyed all but 17.
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Re: On Political Correctness
« Reply #138 on: June 12, 2020, 17:30:59 »
A little old, but the 17 occasionally come up for sale.

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Re: On Political Correctness
« Reply #139 on: June 12, 2020, 18:42:34 »
Flag or no flag, it was a heck of a car.

I tried, but could never master their bootlegger turns. Only found out later they disconnected the locking mechanism from the foot operated parking brake. That was the trick.

Read they used over 300 General Lee's. The stunts destroyed all but 17.

Does that mean that 283 stunts went right, or that 17 went wrong?  ???

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Re: On Political Correctness
« Reply #140 on: June 12, 2020, 19:34:32 »
Does that mean that 283 stunts went right, or that 17 went wrong?  ???

Apparently, they always went right. But, a jump would basically be so severe, they had to write off the car. And, they didn't replay film of old stunts. Ie Every stunt we saw was filmed 'fresh" for that episode. I saw the math somewhere. It added up to a lot of wrecked cars and good, clean entertainment for the family!
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Re: On Political Correctness
« Reply #141 on: June 12, 2020, 20:21:26 »
Nice car but you couldn't leave it unattended without someone damaging it.
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Re: On Political Correctness
« Reply #142 on: June 12, 2020, 20:33:07 »
Nice car but you couldn't leave it unattended without someone damaging it.

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Re: On Political Correctness
« Reply #143 on: June 12, 2020, 23:25:19 »
Apparently, they always went right. But, a jump would basically be so severe, they had to write off the car. And, they didn't replay film of old stunts. Ie Every stunt we saw was filmed 'fresh" for that episode. I saw the math somewhere. It added up to a lot of wrecked cars and good, clean entertainment for the family!

So basically, it was all "**** it, we've got money" type shenanigans.

Certainly paid off!

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Re: On Political Correctness
« Reply #144 on: June 13, 2020, 00:13:09 »
If you watch movies in which cars do improbable jumps and landings, you can often see the undercarriage disintegrating.
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Re: On Political Correctness
« Reply #145 on: June 13, 2020, 18:55:25 »
Correctness has evolved to intolerance.

The American Press Is Destroying Itself (Matt Taibbi, about recent changes in the institutional press).

"Even people who try to keep up with protest goals find themselves denounced the moment they fail to submit to some new tenet of ever-evolving doctrine, via a surprisingly consistent stream of retorts: frig you, shut up, send money, do better, check yourself, I’m tired and racist." (italics in original)
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Re: On Political Correctness
« Reply #146 on: June 13, 2020, 19:00:15 »
Correctness has evolved to intolerance.

The American Press Is Destroying Itself (Matt Taibbi, about recent changes in the institutional press).

"Even people who try to keep up with protest goals find themselves denounced the moment they fail to submit to some new tenet of ever-evolving doctrine, via a surprisingly consistent stream of retorts: frig you, shut up, send money, do better, check yourself, I’m tired and racist." (italics in original)

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Re: On Political Correctness
« Reply #147 on: June 13, 2020, 19:16:08 »
When I was a kid, we used to fish the west coast in pursuit of the Mighty Coho salmon. Every once in a while, we would catch a dogfish instead of said Mighty Coho. It was common practice in those much less enlightened times, to slit it's belly and dump it back in the chuck, never to be caught again.  It was fascinating to watch, as that poor little fish sank out of sight, it swim around in circles greedily chowing down on it's own entrails.  What's that got to do with political correct culture, I hear you ask?  The similarities between that dogfish and the uberwokenvolken just occurred to me this morning, the movement swims in ever decreasing circles, eating up little bits of itself that aren't woke enough for the main body any more, until it consumes itself and sinks out of sight... At least I hope so.
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Re: On Political Correctness
« Reply #148 on: June 13, 2020, 19:58:55 »
When I was a kid, we used to fish the west coast in pursuit of the Mighty Coho salmon. Every once in a while, we would catch a dogfish instead of said Mighty Coho. It was common practice in those much less enlightened times, to slit it's belly and dump it back in the chuck, never to be caught again.  It was fascinating to watch, as that poor little fish sank out of sight, it swim around in circles greedily chowing down on it's own entrails.  What's that got to do with political correct culture, I hear you ask?  The similarities between that dogfish and the uberwokenvolken just occurred to me this morning, the movement swims in ever decreasing circles, eating up little bits of itself that aren't woke enough for the main body any more, until it consumes itself and sinks out of sight... At least I hope so.

Congartulations!

I have just searched the net for "uberwokenvolken" and could find no hits.

It seems you have coined a new phrase and are entitled to royalties from all and sundry from here on in.

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Re: On Political Correctness
« Reply #149 on: June 13, 2020, 21:43:56 »
When I was a kid, we used to fish the west coast in pursuit of the Mighty Coho salmon. Every once in a while, we would catch a dogfish instead of said Mighty Coho. It was common practice in those much less enlightened times, to slit it's belly and dump it back in the chuck, never to be caught again.  It was fascinating to watch, as that poor little fish sank out of sight, it swim around in circles greedily chowing down on it's own entrails.  What's that got to do with political correct culture, I hear you ask?  The similarities between that dogfish and the uberwokenvolken just occurred to me this morning, the movement swims in ever decreasing circles, eating up little bits of itself that aren't woke enough for the main body any more, until it consumes itself and sinks out of sight... At least I hope so.

To continue this useful analogy ...

The last time I fished halibut off of Constance Bank, near Victoria, the first 5 or 6 fish we pulled up were dog fish. We gutted them as you described and waited, while the remains floated down to halibut depth of about 300ft.

While their colleagues were busy feeding on dog fish remains we pulled up 6 nice fish, completely unmolested.

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