Liberal (Minority/Majority) Government 2025 - ???

[Czech_pivo]

You realize most of our exports with the U.S. are still happening, right? We don’t need a deal or combination of deals that substitute all or even most of that.

We simply need options and the ability to have options. With that, we are set. The US doesn’t want us to have options. They want us to have only 1 buyer, 1 market - their’s.
Having options, and the ability to choose where we sell and to who we sell, is power.
From here on out, we need to look at the selling of ALL our products from a business perspective - no emotions, no more ‘friends and family’ perspectives, simply you want our goods, here is the price take it or leave it.

 

[brihard]

We simply need options and the ability to have options. With that, we are set. The US doesn’t want us to have options. They want us to have only 1 buyer, 1 market - their’s.
Having options, and the ability to choose where we sell and to who we sell, is power.
From here on out, we need to look at the selling of ALL our products from a business perspective - no emotions, no more ‘friends and family’ perspectives, simply you want our goods, here is the price take it or leave it.

That’s pretty much how it is anyway. ‘Canada’ doesn’t sell things; Canadian companies do. They charge a price the market will bear. Any advantageous trade conditions with friendly nations are a matter of government policy on things like tariffs and quotas, not because some Canadian company is giving special pricing to the U.S., U.K. or what have you. Generally where they get better prices from us it’s because of cheaper inputs, and/or cheaper shipping of the goods to the U.S. due to proximity.

 

[Czech_pivo]

That’s pretty much how it is anyway. ‘Canada’ doesn’t sell things; Canadian companies do. They charge a price the market will bear. Any advantageous trade conditions with friendly nations are a matter of government policy on things like tariffs and quotas, not because some Canadian company is giving special pricing to the U.S., U.K. or what have you. Generally where they get better prices from us it’s because of cheaper inputs, and/or cheaper shipping of the goods to the U.S. due to proximity.

The US was low low hanging fruit, virtually no effort to sell.
All those ‘Canadian’ companies are virtually US branch companies whose sole focus is to sell back to the US.
That’s going to be our biggest challenge, seeing if they stick around and if they are allowed to look to other markets to sell their products.

 

[ArmyRick]

You realize most of our exports with the U.S. are still happening, right? We don’t need a deal or combination of deals that substitute all or even most of that.

You realize Trump wants to squeeze more of that our of our hands and into his hands. Every Canadian product he can stop coming over there and have it made or grown in the USA is what he wants.
How many of our exports will be standing as this continues?

 

[Czech_pivo]

You realize Trump wants to squeeze more of that our of our hands and into his hands. Every Canadian product he can stop coming over there and have it made or grown in the USA is what he wants.
How many of our exports will be standing as this continues?

100% spot on

 

[brihard]

You realize Trump wants to squeeze more of that our of our hands and into his hands. Every Canadian product he can stop coming over there and have it made or grown in the USA is what he wants.
How many of our exports will be standing as this continues?

The majority. Because, as economically illiterate as he is, many of his states have economies strongly impacted by bilateral trade. We’re already seeing walk backs on some tariffs due to regional economic pain. There’s only so far he can go with this, and the door is rapidly swinging shut on his political options.

 

[HavokFour]

Really curious now with how this is being hyped both domestically and abroad.

Doesn't seem to be EU membership, but perhaps something similar to joining the EUCU.

‘Unique’ partnership with Canada forming ahead of PM Carney speech: EU envoy

The European Union’s ambassador to Canada says the bloc is crafting a new partnership with Ottawa unlike anything that currently exists.

www.ctvnews.ca

 

[Furniture]

Really curious now with how this is being hyped both domestically and abroad.

Doesn't seem to be EU membership, or joining under the EUCU.

‘Unique’ partnership with Canada forming ahead of PM Carney speech: EU envoy

The European Union’s ambassador to Canada says the bloc is crafting a new partnership with Ottawa unlike anything that currently exists.

www.ctvnews.ca

EU membership would be unpalatable to Canadian voters, so some new special status makes the most sense to deepen ties.

Canadians don't want Brussels ordering them around any more than they want Washington to.

 

[HavokFour]

EU membership would be unpalatable to Canadian voters, so some new special status makes the most sense to deepen ties.

Canadians don't want Brussels ordering them around any more than they want Washington to.

Which is why I'm thinking it might be something closer to the EUCU, but even then that doesn't quite fit as there are 2 non-EU members in the EUCU and this is supposedly "unlike anything that currently exists".

 

[Furniture]

Which is why I'm thinking it might be something closer to the EUCU, but even then that doesn't quite fit as there are 2 non-EU members in the EUCU and this is supposedly "unlike anything that currently exists".

It could simply be that we are in North America... people like to spin things to be bigger than they are all the time, or so my wife says...

 

[Jarnhamar]

Really curious now with how this is being hyped both domestically and abroad.

Doesn't seem to be EU membership, but perhaps something similar to joining the EUCU.

‘Unique’ partnership with Canada forming ahead of PM Carney speech: EU envoy

The European Union’s ambassador to Canada says the bloc is crafting a new partnership with Ottawa unlike anything that currently exists.

www.ctvnews.ca

You thinking Carney, who proudly calls himself European, is sabotaging negotiations with the US to bring us closer to the EU?

 

[brihard]

It could simply be that we are in North America... people like to spin things to be bigger than they are all the time, or so my wife says...

3.4% is totally normal GDP growth! Probably even bigger than average!

EU membership would be unpalatable to Canadian voters, so some new special status makes the most sense to deepen ties.

Canadians don't want Brussels ordering them around any more than they want Washington to.

Yeah, no way it’s the sort of joining that would subject us to EU regulation. That would be counterproductive and economically stifling. I could definitely see more open trade between us and them though. They have to see us as an attractive source of safe energy and critical minerals.

You thinking Carney, who proudly calls himself European, is sabotaging negotiations with the US to bring us closer to the EU?

No way. He’s a capitalist first and foremost; all else equal he’d love a resumption of more free trade with the U.S. but he’s also a pragmatist and a former investment banker at a very high level, so he knows how to diversify and hedge.

 

[HavokFour]

You thinking Carney, who proudly calls himself European, is sabotaging negotiations with the US to bring us closer to the EU?

No.

I don't believe our team is the issue there.

 

[Jarnhamar]

No way. He’s a capitalist first and foremost; all else equal he’d love a resumption of more free trade with the U.S. but he’s also a pragmatist and a former investment banker at a very high level, so he knows how to diversify and hedge.

I think you're right about him being pragmatic and understanding diversification and hedging.

That’s why I find his own portfolio interesting. IIRC , over 90% of his publicly disclosed stock holdings were American. His personal investment strategy seems to put a pretty strong emphasis on the US even while his government is trying to diversify Canada’s economic exposure away from it.

 

[Czech_pivo]

I think you're right about him being pragmatic and understanding diversification and hedging.

That’s why I find his own portfolio interesting. IIRC , over 90% of his publicly disclosed stock holdings were American. His personal investment strategy seems to put a pretty strong emphasis on the US even while his government is trying to diversify Canada’s economic exposure away from it.

If he’s pragmatic, which he is, he’s going to put his investments where he was able to make the most money in the past.
Buying a S&P 500 and NASDAQ ETF fund over the last 20yrs definitely made you the most money for the easiet, least amount of effort.

 

[Jarnhamar]

If he’s pragmatic, which he is, he’s going to put his investments where he was able to make the most money in the past.
Buying a S&P 500 and NASDAQ ETF fund over the last 20yrs definitely made you the most money for the easiet, least amount of effort.

Sounds like a lot of motive to see the US economy doing good

 

[Czech_pivo]

Sounds like a lot of motive to see the US economy doing good

The key word was ‘past’ in my response.

 

[HavokFour]

Zelenskyy is in town tomorrow.

And...

10:30 a.m. The Prime Minister will participate in a signing ceremony with the President of Ukraine, Volodymyr Zelenskyy.

https://twitter.com/x/status/2097831044531605551

Thursday, September 10, 2026

Note: All times localCalgary, Alberta9:00 a.m. The Prime Minister will meet with the President of Ukraine, Volodymyr Zelenskyy.Note for media:Pooled photo opportunity at the beginning of the meeting10:30 a.m. The Prime Minister will participate in a signing ceremony with the President of...

www.pm.gc.ca

Statement by Prime Minister Carney on the visit of President Volodymyr Zelenskyy and First Lady Olena Zelenska to Canada

The President and the First Lady will attend events in Calgary, Toronto, and North Bay. President Zelenskyy will also address Cabinet members at the Cabinet Planning Forum in Banff.

www.pm.gc.ca

 

[Jarnhamar]

Thats going to be expensive.

 

[Eaglelord17]

I think you're right about him being pragmatic and understanding diversification and hedging.

That’s why I find his own portfolio interesting. IIRC , over 90% of his publicly disclosed stock holdings were American. His personal investment strategy seems to put a pretty strong emphasis on the US even while his government is trying to diversify Canada’s economic exposure away from it.

Was American, decisions made before 47 took power. Now it being in a blind trust it can be composed of anything. Plus even if he was able to trade now, who is to say investing American is how he would go.

Do you think we shouldn’t be trying to diversify Canada’s trade considering America seems to be determined to economically harm us and force us to capitulate to a horrible deal?