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Some sat images coming out of how big the fire got. Large section of the PDA got burnt


Been 30 odd years since I lived in Alberta last so can't remember. I live/work in Manitoba now, in remote First Nations, and my nightmare is something happening like the mass stabbings that happened in SK a couple years ago or a passenger aircraft hammering in, especially somewhere where there wasn't many trained people. Trying to have medevac aircraft diverted for something like that would really mess up the air transport scheme of things here - I'd actually seriously consider asking for rapid calls to be put in to have CAF support for a Herc with medevac crew(s) based off the regional MAJAID plan (should they still exist). We had two light plane crashes where I used to work in the space of a year - one minor, other involved casualties. The fatal one was outside of my sphere and was handled by CAF resources.
The other issue here is this in rural Alberta - you were talking about a large municipal EMS, which much like the folks here in Winnipeg, doesn't see past their urban boundaries (ie the tip of its nose). Edmonton is roughly 90-120minute drive - IIRC correctly, transfers I'd done in my much younger days by road from where we used to bivouac to Uof A hospital was roughly an hour and three-quarters depending on traffic. Other major/majorish centres are Lloydminister (and it's not that major TBH), Calgary and Red Deer, Lloyd being fairly close, though the hospital is technically on the Saskatchewan side of the city. An MCI response in those rural counties/municipalities would likely come in the way of a multi domain response and likely coordinated at a provincial level, which could also allow to possibly bring in CAF resources by way of provincial call for Aid to Civil Power and there is 1 Field Ambulance in Edmonton, as well the Reserve Fd Ambs in Edmonton and Calgary.
Much of the population has no clue what it's like in remote Canadaland. Heck, most urban people don't understand what it's like in the near rurals (''what do you mean the ambulance/fire truck is half an hour away').Been 30 odd years since I lived in Alberta last so can't remember. I live/work in Manitoba now, in remote First Nations, and my nightmare is something happening like the mass stabbings that happened in SK a couple years ago or a passenger aircraft hammering in, especially somewhere where there wasn't many trained people. Trying to have medevac aircraft diverted for something like that would really mess up the air transport scheme of things here - I'd actually seriously consider asking for rapid calls to be put in to have CAF support for a Herc with medevac crew(s) based off the regional MAJAID plan (should they still exist). We had two light plane crashes where I used to work in the space of a year - one minor, other involved casualties. The fatal one was outside of my sphere and was handled by CAF resources.
The other issue here is this in rural Alberta - you were talking about a large municipal EMS, which much like the folks here in Winnipeg, doesn't see past their urban boundaries (ie the tip of its nose). Edmonton is roughly 90-120minute drive - IIRC correctly, transfers I'd done in my much younger days by road from where we used to bivouac to Uof A hospital was roughly an hour and three-quarters depending on traffic. Other major/majorish centres are Lloydminister (and it's not that major TBH), Calgary and Red Deer, Lloyd being fairly close, though the hospital is technically on the Saskatchewan side of the city. An MCI response in those rural counties/municipalities would likely come in the way of a multi domain response and likely coordinated at a provincial level, which could also allow to possibly bring in CAF resources by way of provincial call for Aid to Civil Power and there is 1 Field Ambulance in Edmonton, as well the Reserve Fd Ambs in Edmonton and Calgary.
even Walter Reed only has 20 beds. Evidently the american main center is in San Antonio. Britain farms theirs out to the civic hospitals just like us, I guess. Very sadly, I suspect the end report is going to recommend expanding our capabilities which, since health is a provincial affair and there are very few multi-casualty incidents, will receive lots of bobbing heads and no cash to implement. The GOC is the only entity I know of that has the resources to spend on a dedicated unit for mass casualties. For the rest, it will come down to the odds game. What are the odds and if the number is low enough, no money will be spent.Not sure what the protocol is in the rest of Canada.
Ours was Critical Care Bypass ( CCB ). Meaning the hospital was closed to ambulances.
I recall one of our PCP crews on the radio transporting a young man in severe respiratory distress . No advanced life-support paramedics were available . The emergency department - only 3 to 4 minutes from the house - was on critical care bypass.
The PCP crew was directed to transport him to another hospital 4 times farther away. He ultimately died despite PCP efforts to resuscitate him en route to the second hospital.
Now , our department mandates life-threatening/critically ill patients be transported to the closest hospital - regardless of bypass status.
2 days eh? Haven't there been horror stories of people waiting in a hall in a major city hospital for that long?Much of the population has no clue what it's like in remote Canadaland. Heck, most urban people don't understand what it's like in the near rurals (''what do you mean the ambulance/fire truck is half an hour away').
From my time working the remote FNTs in n/w Ontario many moons ago, memory serves we had a homicide with suspect at large; our response time was about 3 hours, and that was a scramble. We had six people drown at a set of rapids; response time - two days (weather). None of the airstrips and most of the aircraft and pilots that operate up there are IFR.
I got introduced to this mess almost 10 years ago While providing Safewalks at Global TV in Winnipeg there was almost nothing to do except listen to the scanners .Much of the population has no clue what it's like in remote Canadaland. Heck, most urban people don't understand what it's like in the near rurals (''what do you mean the ambulance/fire truck is half an hour away').
From my time working the remote FNTs in n/w Ontario many moons ago, memory serves we had a homicide with suspect at large; our response time was about 3 hours, and that was a scramble. We had six people drown at a set of rapids; response time - two days (weather). None of the airstrips and most of the aircraft and pilots that operate up there are IFR.
