2014 Ontario General Election
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GAP said:
In theory, couple of problems 1) That airport doesn't have the necessary capacity. Which is why Mirabel was built. But that was too far from the city and the airlines bitched, and now most of that airport is a racetrack with some cargo flights and a helicopter manufacturer. Pearson was basically christened the "Eastern Gateway" and as result, its capacity and infrastructure was significantly increased. 2)Airlines, particularly foreign airlines can't just pull stakes and move on whim. Approvals for new landing slots take time. 3)Concerning cargo/mail, relocating that would necessitate relocating the CBSA personnel (among other things) at the Mississuaga Gateway facility (which also happens to be the largest in the country).
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ModlrMike said:
Or Montreal become more of an Air Hub and perhaps places like Winnipeg. Some Trans Atlantic may decide to terminate in Montreal or Halifax, while Pacific Flights will terminate in Vancouver. Calgary and Edmonton are just as close to Europe as Toronto, perhaps even closer on the Arctic Routes. Ontario airports may find that they have lost the International Flights and only be left with Domestic Flights to connect to International Flights flying out of other provinces.
We may not see the raise in airfare, but a very large reduction in the number of flights into and out of Ontario centers, and loss revenues. Detroit, Buffalo and Syracuse will benefit from more Ontario residents crossing the border
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I finally figured it out. Underpants Gnomes. The Liberal Party of Ontario is run by Underpants Gnomes.
1. "a shortfall of $12.5 billion"
2. ???
3. "The government expects significant increases in revenue will eliminate the deficit by 2017-18."
1. "a shortfall of $12.5 billion"
2. ???
3. "The government expects significant increases in revenue will eliminate the deficit by 2017-18."
I try to keep an open mind and am someone who watches campaigns closely. I prefer to vote for the party with, what I think, is the best platform. My provincial, federal and municipal votes vary and are not always linked to any political dogma nor is it consistant across those three levels of government.
But I've made up my mind for this one. And it isn't based on any of the party's platforms (a bit yes) or leaders (I wish we actually had real leaders in this one) or anything that has been promised.
No, my decision is based on the fact that the current government thinks I'm stupid. It thinks it can rule with impunity and that since there are no real alternatives (I don't think there are) that they will win again. And they might actually pull it off again.
But there is an alternative. I'm not voting for them because they do not deserve my vote. Neither do the others, so I will be placing my vote with the party that does not deserve my vote the less.
This province has gone to h#ll in a hand basket economically. The Liberals are looking corrupt and borderline criminal. They've completely surrendered to the environmental lobby at the expense of jobs and teh economy.
But hey they are getting rid of the hydro debt repayment charge on my hydro bill but they failed to mention that the green credit on my bill expires at that time meaning I will in fact be paying more. But they think I'm stupid. They think that I will believe that they will get the economy running again in two years despite posting another deficit budget this year. Right.
But what are my alternatives?
The NDP? Maybe as a protest vote but that party always comes third in my riding so really that wouldn't achieve much. And besides, they've been propping the minority liberals for years for their own self interests and would rather see the province burn rather than risk the seats they have.
The Conservatives? They have a leadership problem. A big one. But at least they have somewhat of a plan I can sort of get on board with. Like scrapping the green energy act. That alone will likely get my vote. I don't buy his million jobs plan but I guess the intent is good.
The one good thing about all of this is that I am way more invested in provincial politics than I used to be.
So my vote is going to be a punitive one. I'm voting more against something than for something, because really, I don't think it can get any worse under someone else...
But I've made up my mind for this one. And it isn't based on any of the party's platforms (a bit yes) or leaders (I wish we actually had real leaders in this one) or anything that has been promised.
No, my decision is based on the fact that the current government thinks I'm stupid. It thinks it can rule with impunity and that since there are no real alternatives (I don't think there are) that they will win again. And they might actually pull it off again.
But there is an alternative. I'm not voting for them because they do not deserve my vote. Neither do the others, so I will be placing my vote with the party that does not deserve my vote the less.
This province has gone to h#ll in a hand basket economically. The Liberals are looking corrupt and borderline criminal. They've completely surrendered to the environmental lobby at the expense of jobs and teh economy.
But hey they are getting rid of the hydro debt repayment charge on my hydro bill but they failed to mention that the green credit on my bill expires at that time meaning I will in fact be paying more. But they think I'm stupid. They think that I will believe that they will get the economy running again in two years despite posting another deficit budget this year. Right.
But what are my alternatives?
The NDP? Maybe as a protest vote but that party always comes third in my riding so really that wouldn't achieve much. And besides, they've been propping the minority liberals for years for their own self interests and would rather see the province burn rather than risk the seats they have.
The Conservatives? They have a leadership problem. A big one. But at least they have somewhat of a plan I can sort of get on board with. Like scrapping the green energy act. That alone will likely get my vote. I don't buy his million jobs plan but I guess the intent is good.
The one good thing about all of this is that I am way more invested in provincial politics than I used to be.
So my vote is going to be a punitive one. I'm voting more against something than for something, because really, I don't think it can get any worse under someone else...
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So, will it go to the bitter end with a vote in the Legislature, or is the Premier just going to head to the LG's office directly?ModlrMike said:
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milnews.ca said:
That's what she said she'd do. Straight to the LG.
She doesn't want to be seen as defeated. She wants to try spin it as "I can't believe they turned down this fantastic budget! It's time to let the citizens of Ontario decide their way ahead without the petty politics of the Opposition!"
She's probably not going to like the answer.
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ModlrMike said:
Here we go!
However, not to be overly cynical, this is just the usual post-budget jockeying. No doubt, Wynne will spend the next few weeks attempting to amend the budget to try to get the NDP on side.
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There's also the convenient release of this book to chronicle the legacy of Dalton McGuinty and what's continued to happen under Kathleen Wynne. I can't believe no one else has done a book on the McGuinty legacy.
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George Wallace said:
Kinda moot now (hopefully) but like I was saying above, foriegn airlines can't switch airports on whim, the Fed's tell them where they are allowed to fly into and how often, domestic cariers have a little more flexibility. The Fed's also basically have designated Vancouvery and Toronto as the two primary ports of entry for air cargo/mail. Fedex actually has it's own airside terminal and processing facility, and UPS and Purolator have large facilities in the west part of Toronto to facilitate timely access to Pearson.
But hopefully wynne is defeated and these ideas wind up in the trash where they belong.
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According to Twitter, reporters say she's speaking to media 1430 Eastern.recceguy said:
:nod:recceguy said:
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Guess I have figure out how to register to vote in absentia.milnews.ca said:
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Hatchet Man said:
Start here.
"If you are an eligible elector temporarily living outside Ontario, you can vote by mail or apply to be named in the Register of Absentee Electors, which also allows you to vote by mail."
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If it's anything like elections here, the governing party will bribe you.....with your money, and denigrate the opposition through attack ads.
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Jim Seggie said:
Nope they - the Ontario Liberal Party - won't do that. They have the likes of Sid Ryan and his union buddies and the Working Families Ontario to do the dirty and heavy lifting for them for free. They get to keep their hands clean.........
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Larry
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