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2025 Federal Election - 28 Apr 25

The Harper Conservatives destroyed alot of scientific records under the guise of cost savings, as well as other essentially anti-science actions, according to people I know close to the issue.

I'm assuming there's a lingering suspicion in the science community that the Conservatives have a 'Bible Belt fervor' for creationism etc that is essentially anti-scientific.
I thought some of the Harper government's anti-research actions were foolish. None of that excuses equally foolish attempts to "decolonize" or otherwise infantilize mathematics and science, or poorly considered intrusions into social and political advocacy by scientists whose conclusions regarding "what government should do" are inevitably based on the one thing they really know well.

Inquiry has to be completely separated from social advocacy and efforts to make inquiry serve social agendas.
 
Policy wise the CPC basically line for line matches up with the American Democrats. Are there fringe elements in both parties which don’t line up? Yes. But that doesn’t mean their main platforms don’t line up.
Ridiculous.
Abortion? The Democrats line up with the CPC.
No. The Democrats are working for unlimited abortion; the CPC is going along with the situation imposed by others. This is similar to what happened with SSM: the CPC did not fight for it but went along; the progressive parties fought for it. It is risible to claim that acquiescence and advocacy are equivalent.
Gun control? Again both would line up pretty consistently (if anything the Democrats would love to have the CPC stance).
No. The Democrats are in line with the LPC and NDP in Canada - gradual erosion until there is really nothing left.
Economic? Very similar.
No. The Democrats have been blowing out their gaffs with irresponsible public spending on a level not even the LPC in Canada has dared to attempt. The LPC and CPC are both well to the right of Democrats on this one - and it's a critical factor, maybe the most critical one since without sound fiscal and economic policy eventually nothing else really matters.
Global outlook? Very similar.
"Global outlook" amounts to hand-waving and cloud-shaped balloons on a chalk board.
Militarily? The Democrats are much more serious about that than the CPC is.
Democrats have been consistently trying to cut military spending in the US for decades and do swords-into-ploughshares to prop up social security and Medicaid. The CPC and its predecessors can be at most accused of allowing stagnation.
What part do you think doesn’t line up fairly consistently?
Add: immigration, tough-or-not-tough on crime, energy (Democrats: anti-coal, anti-fracking, anti-pipeline), environment, individual vs collective rights and responsibilities.
 
I will argue that the CPC is roughly where the Democrats used to be, before they went full stupid and swerved left. With a portion of their policy also landing in the centre leaning Republicans.
 
See, this is why Canadians equate the CPC with Trump and the GOP. They here/see people like you spewing the same Republican vitriol as this, see that you are a CPC supporter, and say "are these the kind of people we want running our Country?".
I’d say it’s more (or more than 60-70% or so) the “how” than the “what” that critics of PP point to as being GOP’ish.
 
I would observe that Canada's conservatives, are well to the left of the US conservatives. Those who would label the Torries right wing, are simply moving the yardage markers (to use a more apt football analogy).
 
Because it was 2015!


Maybe Carney will be third time lucky after he boots Yuen? 🤷🏻‍♂️

Many a prospective voter still aren’t getting any more warm and fuzzies about Chinarney…
This is almost treasonous.

As for a "Bethune medical unit" I have heard Bethune was a committed Commie and preferred to treat ChiCom soldiers and leave the Nationalists to die.
 
Because it was 2015!


Maybe Carney will be third time lucky after he boots Yuen? 🤷🏻‍♂️

Many a prospective voter still aren’t getting any more warm and fuzzies about Chinarney…
Aaaaaand the hits just keep on coming ....

Meanwhile, sounds like PP can't get any clearer than this on abortion (The Canadian Press via YT):
Let's see if this closes THAT narrative file from the other side. I suspect no, but dare to dream, right?
 
Another Chinese problem Canada has to tackle to help reduce housing costs to Canadians.

Fake Chinese income" mortgages fuel Toronto Real Estate Bubble: HSBC Bank Leaks​


It is also tied to money laundering here. Another Chinese problem we have.
 
Aaaaaand the hits just keep on coming ....

Meanwhile, sounds like PP can't get any clearer than this on abortion (The Canadian Press via YT):
Let's see if this closes THAT narrative file from the other side. I suspect no, but dare to dream, right?
Game, set, match.
 
Another Chinese problem Canada has to tackle to help reduce housing costs to Canadians.

Fake Chinese income" mortgages fuel Toronto Real Estate Bubble: HSBC Bank Leaks​


It is also tied to money laundering here. Another Chinese problem we have.
Money laundering in real estate isn't just a BC issue? colour me shocked, speculation and money laundering we need to fight within housing, it drives prices higher.
 
I wouldn’t say the exact definitions apply to any political party. The Canadian Liberals for example are not very liberal by definition.

Policy wise the CPC basically line for line matches up with the American Democrats. Are there fringe elements in both parties which don’t line up? Yes. But that doesn’t mean their main platforms don’t line up.

Abortion? The Democrats line up with the CPC.
Gun control? Again both would line up pretty consistently (if anything the Democrats would love to have the CPC stance).
Economic? Very similar.
Global outlook? Very similar.
Militarily? The Democrats are much more serious about that than the CPC is.

What part do you think doesn’t line up fairly consistently?

Also I wouldn’t really consider the Democrats particularly progressive. Their ‘progressive’ policies are for the most part standard in Canada and Europe.

Republicans like to point to caricatures like AOC, Omar, Sanders, The Groups, etc and say that is the entire party. The truth is, it’s a huge, unworkable coalition of everything from Never-Trump conservatives to DSA types, and The Groups (progressive special interest groups) have an outsized influence on messaging and policy. Hence the dogs’ breakfast at campaign time.
 
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