2025 Federal Election - 28 Apr 25

[Colin Parkinson]

If you're not already in the West, you should try and get there. I know it's not easy to uproot, but I think being in the West has the best chance of long term financial and individual freedom survivability.

Anymore west and I will be swimming.

 

[Colin Parkinson]

No, I'm thinking long term survival of the party, not short term policy objectives.

The NDP are effectively the LPC with orange. Why should people waste their time and money supporting them?

Tom Muclair did a excellent job building the party and then got stabbed in the back for his efforts by party purists. They need to find someone like him to take on the job of rebuilding.

 

[Cloud Cover]

Still needs a bi election but that is exactly what they will do.

“By-Election”, not “bi election”. You must be using a government computer.

 

[The Bread Guy]

Didn't take Beaverton long ....

Poilievre vows to stay on as party leader for reasons of being otherwise unemployable

CARLETON, ON - Despite losing his own riding by several thousand votes, Conservative leader Pierre Poilievre has vowed to stay on as party leader due to having absolutely no employment track record outside of politics.

www.thebeaverton.com

Ouch!

 

[dapaterson]

Tom Muclair did a excellent job building the party and then got stabbed in the back for his efforts by party purists. They need to find someone like him to take on the job of rebuilding.

The NDP is torn between purist true believers and pragmatists seeking power. The latter rarely hold sway.

But a quick reminder: on this day a decade ago the NDP were the official opposition with 95 seats. The LPC had 36 seats.

 

[dapaterson]

“By-Election”, not “bi election”. You must be using a government computer.

Historically speaking, it's only a bi election if Bill Graham was running.

 

[Cloud Cover]

I’d like to see Caroline Mulroney run for CPC leadership, and have Pierre come on board to support that.

 

[HavokFour]

Looks like another seat is flipping, 169 now projected. This election is going to be chock full of historical moments if they also pull off a majority.

 

[dapaterson]

I’d like to see Caroline Mulroney run for CPC leadership, and have Pierre come on board to support that.

No love lost between the CPC and Ontario PC parties right now, so that seems unlikely.

 

[Remius]

“By-Election”, not “bi election”. You must be using a government computer.

iPad actually

 

[Remius]

Looks like another seat is flipping, 169 now projected. This election is going to be chock full of historical moments if they also pull of a majority.

Saw that. More results coming in soon.

 

[HavokFour]

Saw that. More results coming in soon.

I am now wondering if we might see some NDP cross the floor. Nothing really to lose at this point.

 

[Bruce Monkhouse]

The man has one of the largest pensions of any MP, ever, he could gracefully retire and never work again if he wanted to

How? Live off of his savings for the next 10 years and then lose 10% of it by taking it at 55?
Or wait until 65 to get it unreduced?

 

[Navy_Pete]

If you're not already in the West, you should try and get there. I know it's not easy to uproot, but I think being in the West has the best chance of long term financial and individual freedom survivability.

Alberta provincial budget relies completely on the price of crude in the US, and is currently on saved by the fact that there is a big investment to retooling the refineries to work with sweet crude vs heavy crude. If Trump forces them to do that, Alberta is going to suddenly be absolutely foxed.
He's already done stupid things to try and force the car companies to reshore things while ignoring those lobbyists, wouldn't be surprised if O&G was his next one so they actually use what they produce domestically.

Saskatchewan is much better set up as their resources are pretty unique, but Alberta always seems to be riding along the knife edge of oil prices, and their planning only makes sense when countries behave rationally (or when major producers like Russia and Iran behave like dickheads and get their supply embargo'd, pushing up the prices worldwide).

 

[Navy_Pete]

The NDP is torn between purist true believers and pragmatists seeking power. The latter rarely hold sway.

But a quick reminder: on this day a decade ago the NDP were the official opposition with 95 seats. The LPC had 36 seats.

I miss the old school NDP of the 80s I grew up with, where it was solidly blue collar and unionist. I think they got over ran with idealists, professional students and blue sky thinkers, which really undercuts that common sense, working class policy base.

I think they would do better with a narrower tent, and similarly think the PCs would do better as a separate party from the Reformers.

 

[QV]

Alberta provincial budget relies completely on the price of crude in the US, and is currently on saved by the fact that there is a big investment to retooling the refineries to work with sweet crude vs heavy crude. If Trump forces them to do that, Alberta is going to suddenly be absolutely foxed.
He's already done stupid things to try and force the car companies to reshore things while ignoring those lobbyists, wouldn't be surprised if O&G was his next one so they actually use what they produce domestically.

Saskatchewan is much better set up as their resources are pretty unique, but Alberta always seems to be riding along the knife edge of oil prices, and their planning only makes sense when countries behave rationally (or when major producers like Russia and Iran behave like dickheads and get their supply embargo'd, pushing up the prices worldwide).

It's not only Alberta that relies on revenue generated from O&G. So does the rest of Canada.

 

[PrairieFella]

I miss the old school NDP of the 80s I grew up with, where it was solidly blue collar and unionist. I think they got over ran with idealists, professional students and blue sky thinkers, which really undercuts that common sense, working class policy base.

I think they would do better with a narrower tent, and similarly think the PCs would do better as a separate party from the Reformers.

The more parties the better. I want PR to allow those voices seats at the table, even those I don't agree with like the PPC and Greens.

 

[dapaterson]

The more parties the better. I want PR to allow those voices seats at the table, even those I don't agree with like the PPC and Greens.

I want single transferable vote for the House, and Senators (with a different apportionment formula) selected via PR at the provincial elections, with half appointed each provincial election (for increased continuity).

 

[Eaglelord17]

I miss the old school NDP of the 80s I grew up with, where it was solidly blue collar and unionist. I think they got over ran with idealists, professional students and blue sky thinkers, which really undercuts that common sense, working class policy base.

I think they would do better with a narrower tent, and similarly think the PCs would do better as a separate party from the Reformers.

Part of their issue is those blue collar unionist jobs have been disappearing for decades thanks to globalization and internal policies which discourage industry in Canada. Internal policies that the NDP support (things like industrial carbon taxes, etc.) at the moment hence the blue collar jobs going Conservative.

Unions are slowly getting limited to government positions who don't share anywhere near the same issues as the private sector. Extreme job security, lack of competition, no risk of employer going under, etc.

 

[Jarnhamar]

I am now wondering if we might see some NDP cross the floor. Nothing really to lose at this point.

Would that give the LPC a majority?