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Can you give some examples of that ?

The recall campaigns in B.C. A bunch of groups loosely connected to the parties have used them 29 times to fight the last election. Only one got the required number of signatures because he got caught sending fake letters to the editor at the local paper. He ended up resigning before the vote.

California is full of referenda cases where one group will get a law through, then the next year another group will get that law repealed or replaced with an opposite law, and the process goes back and forth as infinitum. Businesses can’t operate in that environment.
 
Message to the UCP who started this goat rodeo....play stupid games, win stupid prizes.

Don't blame the NDP for what the UCP did to themselves.
“Down in the minors” version of David Cameron’s attention diversion effort using BREXIT as a threat…until they voted for it…
 
The recall campaigns in B.C. A bunch of groups loosely connected to the parties have used them 29 times to fight the last election. Only one got the required number of signatures because he got caught sending fake letters to the editor at the local paper. He ended up resigning before the vote.

California is full of referenda cases where one group will get a law through, then the next year another group will get that law repealed or replaced with an opposite law, and the process goes back and forth as infinitum. Businesses - or anyone else except lawyers and policy wonks - can’t operate in that environment.

There, FTFY ;)
 
Alright so next up on the UCP power trip, handing powers from the Chief electoral officer to a minister, putting naming restrictions on political parties (likely a direct target against the AB party trying to rename to the AB PC's), and discontinue any court proceeding brought by the chief electoral officer (who referred a separatist referendum petition to the courts to see if its wording was even legal), limits to the training the Law society can mandate. For any healthy democracy, the amount of power the UCP in trying to concentrate on them is worrisome, especially the justice minister.

So I think here is the crux of the issue, and I suspect it's just one of those things that will generate debate among people for the foreseeable future...

When it comes to a healthy democracy, that's exactly what I see when it comes to Danielle Smith. Someone who has, and is, trying to protect people's freedoms at a fundamental level.

For example - I agree with her that citizen led movements aren't supposed to have a bunch of gatekeepers that either allow or disallow those movements to take root.

If it's an unpopular idea, then it won't go anywhere. And if it's an idea that people can get behind, it'll find itself supported by the common citizen.

Her point is that it shouldn't be up a court to determine whether or not work on that idea can proceed - especially at the citizen initiated, grassroots level...and that doesn't sound unreasonable to me on the surface

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Support for the idea of seperation may very well be starting to simmer down now that Trudeau is gone.

Regardless of his policies, Mark Carney is a new face & a lot more likeable, and I think people have put some pretty high hopes on him pulling thru for us in the end...so I think people in general will want to work with him & see what he can do for the province, and will consider that a far safer option than separating altogether

I personally think the seperation movement will gain some steam before it starts to lose steam, but in the end I imagine Alberta won't vote to seperate.

But the fact that it is even being discussed by so many people, so openly that the government & courts are starting to weigh in on the matter, I think proves just how hated he was by Albertans & how completely gone that trust with Ottawa is.
 
Elections Alberta OK's push for anti-coal legislation.
Here's the other stuff on the go on the Elections AB Initiatives page ...
... with the approved request attached for the record.

It'll be interesting to see how quickly (or not) this petition'll be to get signatures.
 

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If it's an unpopular idea, then it won't go anywhere. And if it's an idea that people can get behind, it'll find itself supported by the common citizen.
what if it's a popular but unconstitutional idea? say there is a great movement to ban jewish people from holding public office, shouldn't there be someone in place to say no?
 
Elections Alberta OK's push for anti-coal legislation.
Here's the other stuff on the go on the Elections AB Initiatives page ...
... with the approved request attached for the record.

It'll be interesting to see how quickly (or not) this petition'll be to get signatures.
I need to educate myself a lot more about the legal & legislative processes in regards to this kind of stuff (and to be honest it's kind of embarrassing given I work for the Alberta government, and these petitions aren't super new...)

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I'm curious though...what if Corb Lund's application was refused?

Does that mean he isn't allowed to go around & collect signatures? Because he wouldn't have the permit granted?

Or does it just mean that his petition wouldn't be considered legitimate?




(Starting a quick research session here, sorry for asking beforehand but I'm just about to head to the airport & didn't wanna forget my train of thought on this)
 
I need to educate myself a lot more about the legal & legislative processes in regards to this kind of stuff (and to be honest it's kind of embarrassing given I work for the Alberta government, and these petitions aren't super new...)
If it's any comfort, I'm sure there's a lot of public servants at all levels of government across Canada that don't know everything about everything at their level of government - I know I was FAR from an expert when I worked for Club Fed, so you're not alone :)
I'm curious though...what if Corb Lund's application was refused?

Does that mean he isn't allowed to go around & collect signatures? Because he wouldn't have the permit granted?

Or does it just mean that his petition wouldn't be considered legitimate?




(Starting a quick research session here, sorry for asking beforehand but I'm just about to head to the airport & didn't wanna forget my train of thought on this)
Far from an expert myself, but I suspect AB developed the rules (if memory serves, early 20's???) to sort out petitions that merit official government attention (and maybe action?) versus people doorknocking and collecting signatures willy-nilly. Could also be to make sure foreign shenanigans are kept to a minimum during such things? I stand to be educated by those who know more as well.

Nothing wrong with the whole approval and recall thing, but it's interesting to see how it's all unfolding in AB.
 
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