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CAN-USA 2025 Tariff Strife (split from various pol threads)

Was curious to see how the call went today. It sounds like Trudeau might have told him to either drop them all or kick rocks.

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PrairieFella said:
The scariest part here is his comments on elections. I bet he's looking for a casus belli...
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I think he's trying to plan out a delay until the next PM comes in and then see if he can establish a rapport if its someone new (i.e. not Freeland) and/or test the mettle of the new PM by doubling down on the threats of more tariffs.
 
Czech_pivo said:
I think he's trying to plan out a delay until the next PM comes in and then see if he can establish a rapport if its someone new (i.e. not Freeland) and/or test the mettle of the new PM by doubling down on the threats of more tariffs.
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The articles say that the conversation lasted 50 mins, I view that as a positive. I assume that it means there was some back and forth and some potential agreements and seeking out further clarifications. The US news sources that they may talk again today, which leads me to speculate that there were some takeaways/follow ups/decisions to be made before coming together again and see if something can be worked out.
 
Czech_pivo said:
Sounds an awful lot like Trump is truly grasping at straws right now in order to save some sort of face in this matter.
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Save face? In the eyes of millions he is already a 34 count convicted felon accused of rape, racism, being Hitler, and acts of genocide, and a traitor. Can you get any worse? Not sure he cares about "face" in this.

More likely he is leveraging threats of tariffs to achieve full or partial outcomes that he is looking for.
 
QV said:
Save face? In the eyes of millions he is already a 34 count convicted felon accused of rape, racism, being Hitler, and acts of genocide, and a traitor. Can you get any worse? Not sure he cares about "face" in this.

More likely he is leveraging threats of tariffs to achieve full or partial outcomes that he is looking for.
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Good luck with that.

He's grasping at straws - the stock market bitch slapped him over the last 2-3 days, the industry leaders have told him, in no uncertain words, that he's an idiot.

He needs to come across as the 'winner' in this no matter what or his flaccid ego will shrink even further. If Trudeau has a brain and is actually advised properly, he'll throw some more money/resources at the border and talk about some more drone coverage along the border and give Trump what he needs.

Otherwise, back to the trenches I say.
 
QV said:
Save face? In the eyes of millions he is already a 34 count convicted felon accused of rape, racism, being Hitler, and acts of genocide, and a traitor. Can you get any worse? Not sure he cares about "face" in this.

More likely he is leveraging threats of tariffs to achieve full or partial outcomes that he is looking for.
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All of which is true (except the Hitler bit and maybe the racism, unsure about that) and speaks to the very suspect voting record and intelligence of Americans.
 
Remember that the entire legal underpinnings of the tariffs are specifically and exclusively the purported fentanyl emergency at the border. That being the case, the U.S. should be able to specifically identify deliverables that would satisfy whatever criteria they have - IF Trump was acting in good faith. He of course is not, the fentanyl issue is a fictitious pretext for his self-developed sense of economic victimhood. Because of that it’s very difficult for this to be negotiated; there is not actually a defined criteria that Canada can satisfy.
 
Czech_pivo said:
Good luck with that.

He's grasping at straws - the stock market bitch slapped him over the last 2-3 days, the industry leaders have told him, in no uncertain words, that he's an idiot.

He needs to come across as the 'winner' in this no matter what or his flaccid ego will shrink even further. If Trudeau has a brain and is actually advised properly, he'll throw some more money/resources at the border and talk about some more drone coverage along the border and give Trump what he needs.

Otherwise, back to the trenches I say.
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Like last time. He declared a win on something he already had lol.
 
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