CAN-USA 2025 Tariff Strife (split from various pol threads)

[Czech_pivo]

He still has the usual suspects running the PMO. My feeling is that he's going to be the front man while the PMO does the ground game. Not being a politician or knowing those inner workings, he'll be dependent on them to keep him pointed in the direction they want to go. As long as Telford and Butts are still involved, there won't be any changes from the way things ran under trudeau.

It very well could be the case to keep them in place until the election is over - the if he wins, the brooms come out and an all around cleaning occurs.

 

[Remius]

Trump assures Canadians he will ruin the rest of the world's economy too

WASHINGTON, D.C. - In the wake of accusations that he is singling Canada out with his economic attacks, US President Donald Trump has assured the press that he will also eventually financially decimate the rest of the world as well.

www.thebeaverton.com

Don’t worry everyone.

 

[Maxman1]

I've seen The RCR do drill...

 

[OldSolduer]

It very well could be the case to keep them in place until the election is over - the if he wins, the brooms come out and an all around cleaning occurs.

Can’t we banish these two to oh - Mongolia?

 

[Remius]

https://twitter.com/x/status/1901940648850112926

Some recent stats.

 

[The Bread Guy]

Well, I'm sure THIS'LL help ....

Carney says U.S. must stop 'disrespectful' comments before comprehensive talks

LONDON - Prime Minister Mark Carney says United States President Donald Trump will have to stop his "disrespectful" comments about Canada before the two countries can have comprehensive bilateral conversations

www.thecanadianpressnews.ca

 

[Fishbone Jones]

It very well could be the case to keep them in place until the election is over - the if he wins, the brooms come out and an all around cleaning occurs.

If he wins, he'll keep them. Why would you fire the people that just got you elected?

It's like all the promises to change our voting and election away from our FPTP system. Once the party, that’s promising electoral reform wins, they are loath to change the system that put them there.

 

[GK .Dundas]

Can’t we banish these two to oh - Mongolia?

Can I ask what you've got against Mongolia ?

 

[Fishbone Jones]

Well, I'm sure THIS'LL help ....

Carney says U.S. must stop 'disrespectful' comments before comprehensive talks

LONDON - Prime Minister Mark Carney says United States President Donald Trump will have to stop his "disrespectful" comments about Canada before the two countries can have comprehensive bilateral conversations

www.thecanadianpressnews.ca

Disrespectul comments? If that is his excuse for not talking to Trump’s team, that tells me he either has nothing to deal with or he's scared of meeting Trump or he's got no confidence in his team to tackle the negotiations.

You don't shy away from talks that'll affect two or more countries economies and trade, because a bully called you a name. That is no less childish than the person showing the supposed disrespect.

Pretty darned thin skinned for a guy claiming to be the financial saviour of our broken economy.

 

[Czech_pivo]

If he wins, he'll keep them. Why would you fire the people that just got you elected?

It's like all the promises to change our voting and election away from our FPTP system. Once the party, that’s promising electoral reform wins, they are loath to change the system that put them there.

Because I (Carney) don't trust them.

 

[Remius]

Disrespectul comments? If that is his excuse for not talking to Trump’s team, that tells me he either has nothing to deal with or he's scared of meeting Trump or he's got no confidence in his team to tackle the negotiations.

You don't shy away from talks that'll affect two or more countries economies and trade, because a bully called you a name. That is no less childish than the person showing the supposed disrespect.

Pretty darned thin skinned for a guy claiming to be the financial saviour of our broken economy.

We’re dealing with an administration that gets upset about suits in the white house, not saying thank you every 5 mins and calling Ford disrespectful for his stance all while they make fun of our country and PM.

Carney is doing two things. Shaping the conversation and having them take that ridiculous annexation thing off the table and to get serious. It’s a non starter that should not even be part of a négociation. It’s also the thing that has Canadians up in arms so he looks like he’s dealing with it.

The second part is him setting himself up going into an election. The last thing he needs is him and Trump in a photo only to have CPC propaganda machine use it in an attack ad.

How is he shying away? He said he’s ready for a call. But he’s not about to be pushed around with stupid stuff like the 51st state BS.

 

[Fishbone Jones]

We’re dealing with an administration that gets upset about suits in the white house, not saying thank you every 5 mins and calling Ford disrespectful for his stance all while they make fun of our country and PM.

Carney is doing two things. Shaping the conversation and having them take that ridiculous annexation thing off the table and to get serious. It’s a non starter that should not even be part of a négociation. It’s also the thing that has Canadians up in arms so he looks like he’s dealing with it.

The second part is him setting himself up going into an election. The last thing he needs is him and Trump in a photo only to have CPC propaganda machine use it in an attack ad.

How is he shying away? He said he’s ready for a call. But he’s not about to be pushed around with stupid stuff like the 51st state BS.

Validating their comments by acknowledging and acting on them is even worse and toddler like.

He's ready for a call? He's not in the driver seat. He doesn't dictate when the US meets his requirements to initiate talks.

Won't be pushed around? He already is. He's basing our whole negotiations on some spiteful comments, that hold no water.

A true leader and negotiator is able to rise above baseless taunts. Right now, he's playing Trump’s game. And Trump doesn't mind.

Trump is not about to jump into real, meaningful negotiations until we have an election and he know who is really speaking for Canada.

And I like the approach. I don't want Carney and Clowns to negotiate anything for us and then get voted out.

Sit back and relax. Taunts, jabs and up and down temporary tariffs are all you're likely to see until after an election.

 

[Remius]

Validating their comments by acknowledging and acting on them is even worse and toddler like.

He's ready for a call? He's not in the driver seat. He doesn't dictate when the US meets his requirements to initiate talks.

Won't be pushed around? He already is. He's basing our whole negotiations on some spiteful comments, that hold no water.

A true leader and negotiator is able to rise above baseless taunts. Right now, he's playing Trump’s game. And Trump doesn't mind.

Trump is not about to jump into real, meaningful negotiations until we have an election and he know who is really speaking for Canada.

And I like the approach. I don't want Carney and Clowns to negotiate anything for us and then get voted out.

Sit back and relax. Taunts, jabs and up and down temporary tariffs are all you're likely to see until after an election.

I get that you are on team Trump but that is a very jaundiced account of what is happening. You are only focused on that one thing and not the rest of what he said.

If that is the case about taunts and jabs until it’s over then Carney’s statement on it is quite appropriate given that it is meant for a domestic audience.

 

[Fishbone Jones]

I get that you are on team Trump but that is a very jaundiced account of what is happening. You are only focused on that one thing and not the rest of what he said.

If that is the case about taunts and jabs until it’s over then Carney’s statement on it is quite appropriate given that it is meant for a domestic audience.

If you've been paying attention, even a little bit, you'd have seen the shift in who I do and don't support. It's been like that for more than a month. I don't support Trump.

However, I understand your false claims and bias of me, is a way of moving the conversation and trying to nullify my positions.

Just another stupid MAGA supporter. Pfffttt.

If I speak about Trump, it's about his methodology. I am just telling it like it is. How I see two sides interacting and why I think it's so.

Please don't try to insult my intelligence again with your false claims and bias.

Nothing a county's leader says is for the domestic audience. It’s all international rhetoric. Whether it pertains to another country or not.